Europe is almost certainly looking a new state. Montenegro looks like ending its union with Serbia. Yugoslavia is finally dead.
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Europe is almost certainly looking a new state. Montenegro looks like ending its union with Serbia. Yugoslavia is finally dead.
Looks almost confirmed, according to Aertel -
"An official preliminary result has shown that a clear majority of citizens of the Balkan republic of Montenegro have voted to end their union with Serbia and become independent."
Only a small country - 650,000 people. Didn't realise it was that small.
Also didn't realise that Montenegro uses the Euro as its currency. Apparently the PM bought a couple of billion euro and started to circulate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Another new opponent for our national team at some stage in the future.
Yugoslavia is long gone.
All this means is another bad but entertaining Eurovision entry.
Do you think that 55% is a legitimate vote for separation. I think 66% should be the case on such an important figure unless the country was illegally annexed lik Tibet, East Timor and, erm..................Ireland :eek:
It's always been a part of the world that's interested me for some reason. The old Yugoslavia broke up in 1992, with the following 5 terretories becoming countries:
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Macedonia
Slovenia
Yugoslavia
Then in 2003, Yugolslavia decided to abolish the name and became Serbia and Montengro, which as of now, looks like it will almost definately become two different countries.
It could get pretty farcical now, with every other province wanting independence for the sake of it. Serbia could yet lose 2 more provinces, Vojvodina and Kosovo, and sometime in the future, Bosnia and Herzegovina may go their seperate ways.
Should be interesting at the world cup though, to see Serbia and Montenegro's last game.
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Originally Posted by shedite
I think Kosovo is de facto seperate from Serbia anyway.
It's administered by the UN and will probably become independent or merge with Albania.
I read somewhere that the goalie is the only Montenegrin in the Serb & Mont team.
Hmmmm, his allegiances are really under scrutiny so.
Pablo Escobar anyone?
Now that's just not right is it?
What was his name again?
Ah, Andres Escobar.
Phew!
The tragic Colombian defender from the 1994 World Cup?
55% support is not enough & will surely lead to trouble. What do you do when 45% of the country doesn't want to change?
Seems strange that people could travel back from abroad to vote too.
Independence for Cork!!!
If 55% of the population votes for it. Micheal Martin to be Prime Minister of the new republic?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
I'd vote in favour of it anyway..anything to take the Cork boys and girls off our hands afterall....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderblaster
I'm sure most of Ireland would settle for just 31 counties. Maybe even the northern six would be tempted to seek readmission if you left! Perhaps the rest of the country could cut you off at the county line and have the whole of Cork floated out into the high seas (with all that hot air, you'd have no trouble staying afloat). By the sound of things that'd suit everyone concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
Except maybe the poor fishies, that is... :D
:ball: PP
The brain doesn't work too well at this time of the night, but I think Montenegro was separate from Serbia prior to the First World War.
Isn't the word used for breaking a state up into smaller and smaller countries "balkanisation?"
Vojvodina will be next, either independant or merge with Hungary.
That's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Please god yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
Rump Yugoslavia 1992-2003 was pressurised into changing it's name by outside forces with promises of a closer rapprochment with the EU for one example. As we all know they need to hand over Mladic and Karadzic before any more progress will occur on that front.
Once a referendum for Montenegro was pencilled in for 2006 I couldn't see the point in changing to the interim name Serbia-Montenegro personally. Anyway there is no mass unrest in Vojvodina nor is there a groundswell of opinion looking for change. What is there is a demand for the restoration of the autonomous status they had pre-Milosevic which would address most of the issues anyway.
Midfielder Albert Nadj ( Serbian spelling of a Hungarian surname[Nagy] for the record) is an example of the co-existence that exists between both communities. Many ethnic Hungarians, like Albert's family, have Serbianised the spelling of their names to ensure that the pronunciation remained intact. Smart move in my view.
So it is the formal end of Yugoslavia (1919-2006) which was one of the few good ideas in the Treaty of Versailles and was a nice concept, the idea that people who had cultural and linguistic links could live together in a harmonious federal type state. The Bosnians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs, Slovenes were all Southern Slavs which is where the name Yugoslavia meaning country of the Southern Slavs came from. They were linked by Slavonic culture and also ethnicity.
Say for example, to give an example closer to home , if there had been Celtonia established where Bretons, Cornish, Irish, Manx, Scottish and Welsh all lived under rule from Dublin had been established, and you get the idea behind Yugoslavia. The Celts like the Slavs would have had Religious differences. The predominantly Catholic Bretons and Irish and the predominantly Methodist Welsh, Presbyterian Scots and Anglican/Episcopalian Cornish , would compare favourably with the mainly Orthodox Serbs, Macedonians and Montenegrins, predominantly Catholic Slovenes,Croats, and Vojvodina Hungarians , mainly Muslim Bosnians and ethnic Sandzak, Albanian minorities.
It was a shame about the implementation of Yugoslavia in the late 1980's though, where maniacs like Milosevic and Tudjman were in positions of authority.
Then there'd be shag all attractive women left in the Republic!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by d f x-