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I think that we are witnessing the worst crisis ever in Italian football.
Of course corruption and other minor scandals have always been part of Italian football but this time I think it is just disastrous.
How would you react as non-Juve supporters and how would you react in the opposite case?
Is there still any interest to follow the Seria A ?
Despite all it's faults the overall quality of most of the teams in Serie A is higher than the so called Premiersh*t. It is a more open League teams near the bottom manage better results, despite corruption and match fixing, against higher up teams than in the English equivalent division.
This hopefully will not prevent Italia doing well at the World Cup! I won't used the popular catchphrase to support them as it is now the name of a political party :(
Yeah, hopefully it won't affect their WC but it's not the first time something like this has happened in Italian football. In 1982 Paolo Rossi came back from a 2 year ban for match fixing/bribing and he went on to become the player of the tournament as Italy won the world cup. No players were involved this time but the Juve players will have a threat of their trophy being taking away from them.
So what will happen, will Milan claim the last two titles, and if Juve are demoted to Serie B, what happens to the teams relegated this season?
I doubt very much Juve would get domoted if they can prove anything....too much politics involved.
It's quite possible Juve will have all their points this season stripped from them, finish bottom and be relegated. There is precedent for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAURO 7
The only thing that can save Juve's bacon right now is that Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina, Chievo and a couple more are all implicated too. The evidence against them is pretty damning.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
What happened with Rossi? HAdn't heard that before. He was always a playground favourite when you scored that screamer at lunchtime:DQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Betting scandal. When he was playing for Perugia, they were accused of agreeing a 2-2 draw with Avellino before the game. He was one of the players implicated. I don't know what state the evidense was in, but he never admitted guilt, and got a three year ban (later reduced to two).Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
BTW, Buffon, Iuliano and several more players have been accused of some illegal betting too, though Buffon at least has denounced the claims as rubbish.
The rule about players not being alot to bet is a really smart one. If only there was a similar thing in England or Spain...
Juve would more then likely hold on to all their players and come straight back up. Teams have been demoted before and came back such as AC, Lazio and Fiorentina.
UEFA have suspended investigation, pending more evidence, so it's all domestic now.
England and Spain both have rules stoppping players from betting on football. Rule means nothing though, as players just get their wife, mate or dad (as was the case with Michael owen) to do it
There was a Coppa Itialia game a few weeks ago that was obviously rigged. ON Betfair, there was 5 times the usual amount bet on the game and (practically) all of it was on the draw or on 0-0. Luca Toni missed a late penalty and no injury time was played. (Think it was Genoa v Fiorentina) End of seasopn games in italy are notorious for it, and some bookies won't take bets on matches...
I suppose another thing to consider is the recent change of government. Milan were a lot safer from such investigations a few months ago.
Not really. Berlusconi is still one of the most powerful men in Italy, PM or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
In light of the Serie A scandal...did Liverpool really win the Champions League?
Conspiracy theory time. With the allegations and naming of Milan being involved I pose this question: did Liverpool really win the Champs League Final or were they...ahem...how shall I put this...helped.
3-0 down at half time. Won on penalties. Dan Brown would have a field day. Wait for his next blockbuster "The Benitez Code".
*strokes pretend beard*
:D
I'd imagine Prodi would seize an opportunity to disgrace him if possible. Is Berlusconi not in hot water now that his PM immunity has been lifted?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Even though I've always had alot of time for Juve as a team, if this is proven, I really hope the book is thrown at them, 3rd flight football, would really make anyone else think twice about it again.
Really makes me angry.
ther have been loads of teams dfemotted for various reasons in italy over the years. napoli and fiorentina were hit hard in recent eyars to name jsut two.
i would love to see juventus languish in serie b,c1, or even c2
Ha ha love it, ours was always Robbbbertoooo Baggggggiiiiiooooo or Cantonaaaaahh and last ditch saving tackles were always acredited to McGrath:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Junior
:) I like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
I haven't heard anything. I imagine his hold on the media would make him both a difficult man to crush, and a seriously bad one to unsucessfully attempt to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
It's not like they're alone in this. Italian football has always been rife with this sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevieontour
The cases where teams have been demoted multiple divisions have all been financial. No one's ever gone down more than a division for match fixing, I think. (Someone feel free to correct me here)Quote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Juve should be relegated, as it's illegal to have them shot.
I was over at the Milan-Roma game last Sunday (I'm a Roma fan), and the standard of play and the level of skill on display was fascinating. Anyone who rubbishes Serie A is either ignorant or stupid.