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As independents (and non independents?), on the basis of the information on the other thread concerning the deal on the table for Bohs to move, would you take the deal or would you not take the deal?
(Apologies, I don't know how to poll on this site)
I think they would be mad not to but some of their members may not want out've Phibsboro for pure convenience so that may be a stumbling block. It's surely a win win scenario for them if they do move
It's a no brainer. Although Bohs should consider attempting to get a club house/pub in Phibsboro, to keep the connection with the area as well as a source of income.
100% yes.
Grab it with both hands before it's too late
Looking here, the no camp makes some great points. I live in Clondalkin and there is no way you could get to it by getting off at liffey valley. Talking to the few Bozos I know, I reckon it'll be voted through though. The board played the Ollie card very well. This should then put Shels in pole position for tallaght which is obviously good news for us
(From a purely selfish point of view, I live 20 minutes walk from Dalymount so I'd hate to see them leave, it's handy on a Friday evening. But that's irrelevent.)
It will be a very interesting experiment! For years people have been saying that poor facilities are what keep punters from attending games in this country, pointing to greyhound racing as what happens when facilities are improved. Is this true? Watch the €80M experiment and judge for yourself!
Is it a case of build it and they will come? Or is it a case of they don't fill the Jodi on an average Friday so things why will things change now?
The access issue is a big one. The traffic in that whole area is a nightmare.
Thirdly, the rest of the league should be afraid, very afraid. Imagine what Bohs could do with €26M cash to spend. Sign a couple of big names that would attract punters to fill their new stadium every week, Champions League groupd stages, Rosenborg mark II? (Though football clubs in this country have proved not very good at spending windfalls wisely).
In conclusion, having weighed the issues up: yes, go for it, but sort ot the access issue as a priority.
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Dodge, read some of the posts on that, the main one is the elephant in the living room - players creaming it. A healthy club would not even consider the move, but theres no such thing as a healthy club at the top level, and when restraint is shown, ala Cork, its spun as lack of ambition! But that's unlikely to change, so if you got it flaunt it, such as Drogheda, or if you can get it grab it = Bohez!
I am not 100% sure of all the details & don't know where that stadium to be located but Bohs should definitely move from Dalymount if the deal is right for them. Castleknock is close to Blanchardstown/Clonee etc... which has massive population. Phibsboro is handy access but the land is too valuable. Tradition is great but can't pay the bills...
But its not near anything pete, thats the point. Should really check it out before you post your opnion on it.
How exactly would you get to this new stadium? From what I've heard, there's no nearby access from the M50 as it's effectively beside the toll bridge. From the Southside would you have to go over the toll bridge and get off at the Blanchardstown exit or go through Lucan? Either way sounds very messy, especially on a Friday evening. Are there any bus routes nearby?
Surely any planning permission for the site would need to address (the building of) access roads. Seems to be a lot of facts and issues that only the Bohs members and the developer know about so giving an opinion on the new stadium seems pointless without knowing the ins and outs of the deal.
true ifk101, but this is a talking shop so anything can be discussed. Its not like we have any say
not very up to date on bohs proposals but according to a rep from their board last night on newstalk 106 (gerry somebody) he said the vote was to grant power to the board of bohs to negotiate any land deal over 1 million euro
so this ties neatly into the unholy alliance of Government/ John Delaney' s plans
I just think there closing off all the remaining obstacles to their grand vision of ground sahring
which is opposed by vast numbers of the effected supportes in these clubs
There was a shack by the coast near Bray i think went for €150,000 recently, i know that is hand picking on instance but i really find it hard to believe that that is the best deal going for Bohs. Have they looked at developers overseas? Time is that much of a pressure is it?
I'm not voting for a few reasons, i dont know all the info is the main one.
Also it seems that quite a few members dont know the full picture and/or at least the impact of their vote (relax now, remember i'm not a member and thats what it looks like) It seems there are still doubts about where it is and the knock on effects.
Before anyone puts in their vote, ALL information should be disseminated fully first ..... that has to happen.
For the record, i'm all for striking when the iron is hot, if there is a good deal to be had then jump both feet as fast as you can. But that is the problem, its not a black white situation .... and its a tough choice to be honest. Thats why i'd be worried about looking at all the options. There are alot of good points to be made. If it were me i'd probably have done some sort of quantitative assessment because its a tough choice and that would nearly make up my mind for me.
Whether or which, if the choice is to move then it'll be long lasting one ..... really long, and it will have an effect on Irish football aswell as Bohs. I think no one would begrudge Bohs making a step forward just as long as its the right step.
Noel Edmonds puts it far better... No Deal I say. You have got to remain in the community you belong.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
Sentamental to say the least. Bohs already have as many supporters in blanch/Castleknock as they have in cabra/phibsboro. ffs as the crow flies the new stadium is only a couple of miles up the road anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
I cannot see the financial benefits of staying - it strikes me its like the bachelor farmers living in poverty but owning land worth a fortune, If Dalymount is worth 50m or 100m its completeld irrelevant unless it is sold.
You need more than crows at the games though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor