Martin O'Neill & the England Job

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25/04/2006, 12:52 PM
Stuttgart88

Martin O'Neill & the England Job

It seems that the FA is split between appointing McClaren & Scolari, with Scolari the favourite.

Obstacles remain however, namely Scolari's insistence on waiting until after WC06 before committing (contrary to the FA's goal of appointing a new manager in May) and also opposition within the domestic game to another foreign appointment.

It's being suggested now that the FA will wait until the summer before announcing Sven's successor.

I wonder does the "split" above open the door for Martin O'Neill as a compromise candidate, almost like Jack Charlton was for us. Although not English he'd be British (no need to thrash this old chestnut out again!)

Anyway, it prompts the following questions in my mind:

Would O'Neill accept the job in such circumstances, especially having been interviewed and disregarded? Why was he disregarded anyway

What would he do instead? Newcastle? Fulham?

Was he banking on England job when he rejected Ireland's advances? I expect it was fanciful thinking on our part to think he'd have been interested.

If McClaren got the job he'd be pretty miffed I reckon.
25/04/2006, 1:08 PM
drinkfeckarse

Was he definately interviewed though? I've always thought he was ripe for the Newcastle job and doubted whether he would want an international job seeing as he confesses to missing the day to day life of club management.

Still, I suppose the England job would be difficult to turn down.
25/04/2006, 1:34 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Was he definately interviewed though?

I'm pretty sure I read that but I could be wrong, or the article could be.
25/04/2006, 2:12 PM
NeilMcD

Its all just speculation and very little factual information on this topic available to the public. It depends on his wifes situation an international job may suit him but then again if she is getting better he may want to talke a club job. I think he will get the Newcastle job myself.
25/04/2006, 2:38 PM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Its all just speculation and very little factual information on this topic available to the public. It depends on his wifes situation an international job may suit him but then again if she is getting better he may want to talke a club job. I think he will get the Newcastle job myself.

Think Newcastle will go with Roeder, he deserves it
25/04/2006, 3:03 PM
OwlsFan

McLaren - the guy was on the "soon to be sacked list" at 'Boro until a run in the Champions B League and some wins in the EPL pulled themselves out of the relegation zone. The FA would be very silly to go for him. I don't know why all the English people being interviewed are saying "it should be an Englishman". They are like lemmings - once one says it, they all follow suit. Obviously the Swede (the vegetable and person - one and the same) has left a bad taste in the mouth.
25/04/2006, 3:30 PM
drinkfeckarse

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Obviously the Swede (the vegetable and person - one and the same) has left a bad taste in the mouth.

I heard Ulrika and Faria said something similar...
25/04/2006, 3:49 PM
geysir

That thought has put me off my lunch.
30/04/2006, 5:02 PM
CollegeTillIDie

Has it occurred to anybody here that there are certain jobs that a Northern Nationalist or a Scotsman would not take? The England Manager's Job would be top of the list as far as I know.

I am reminded of a quote from Gordon Strachan when he was on a panel for an international game involving England.
Chairman of panel : Gordon if you were English what would you do?
Strachan: If I were English I'd top myself ! :D
01/05/2006, 7:51 AM
Gather round

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Has it occurred to anybody here that there are certain jobs that a Northern Nationalist or a Scotsman would not take? The England Manager's Job would be top of the list as far as I know.

No, not really. I can't think of any compelling reason why O'Neill would be more likely than the other candidates to turn down the job were it offered. Which wouldn't happen unless he'd declared an interest. And apart from Eriksson and his assistants, England have had a 'foreigner' in recent years- Hoddle's sidekick John Gorman.

I'm assuming you don't know O'Neill personally and what he thinks. You certainly shouldn't assume all northern nationalists and Scots think alike.

The British Prime Minister's father is Scottish, his late mother was from Donegal. There are six other Scots and a woman from Derry in his cabinet.

Rangers have plenty of Catholic employees. Why would they care particularly which school Jewell went to?
01/05/2006, 8:42 AM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by Gather round

Rangers have plenty of Catholic employees.

Indeed they do, including the incoming manager. But they're not "Fenians" are they? You know fine well that Irish (and by extension Scouse) and Scottish Catholics fall into that particular category and therefore have to take all the abuse from ra peepil that goes with it. How must the likes of Chris Burke therefore feel when they hear the Copland Road chimps in full cry? :rolleyes:

Maybe someone will translate some of these "party songs" into French in time for PLG's arrival at Ibrox. They were obviously too late to do it for the UEFA "disciplinary" panel... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Gather round

Why would they care particularly which school Jewell went to?

Don't be so disingenuous. You know the answer to that. Re-read my above point if it has passed you by.

:ball: PP
01/05/2006, 9:19 AM
Gather round

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

But they're not "Fenians" are they? You know fine well that Irish (and by extension Scouse) and Scottish Catholics fall into that particular category and therefore have to take all the abuse

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

Don't be so disingenuous. You know the answer to that. Re-read my above point if it has passed you by.

Rangers hired a manager (Souness) with a Roman Catholic wife and children 20 years ago. So I doubt they'd be that worried about appointing a(nother) Catholic from Liverpool now. It's not at all disingenuous- and by the way I don't deny the continuing sectarian attitudes of a minority of their support and I think they were lucky not to be punished by UEFA.
01/05/2006, 10:10 AM
Plastic Paddy

Fair enough - and I don't doubt that David Murray and Martin Bain have no problem with the appointing of a Catholic, a Muslim or even a Martian to any post within Rangers FC. It's the "minority" of which you speak that are the problem. And, as long as such high-profile figures as Donald Findlay and Andy Goram publicly display their membership of that "minority", the problem will be harder still to eradicate.

:ball: PP
01/05/2006, 10:16 AM
Poor Student

Somehow I thought this thread could have passed without the question being asked and the can of worms that follow it.