LOI clubs in Cork city

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05/04/2006, 8:39 PM
Ronin

LOI clubs in Cork city

I was talking to a few friends of mine about football in Cork city and we were going through all the various clubs there have been down through the years in the LOI. I think we put together a fairly complete list, but then we had the problem of which clubs were the same just under a different name (Cork Alberts and Albert Rovers being an obvious one), and then we wondered which club survived the longest (even with name changes) at LOI level (Albert Rovers still exist I think at AUL level!). Can anyone help out? Apologies if it was a thread once-upon a time but I'm just curious.
05/04/2006, 9:00 PM
Student Mullet

There's a good, accurate, article on the topic here:

http://www.stigonline.com/league/cork.htm
06/04/2006, 7:28 AM
Ronin

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Originally Posted by Student Mullet

There's a good, accurate, article on the topic here:

http://www.stigonline.com/league/cork.htm

Interesting site and funny in places. I'm sure there are lots of facts there, but it's hard to know which are true, and which are park of the p*ss take.

This is from Uefa's website ... and they don't seem to know either.
"Cork FC, Cork Celtic FC, Cork Hibernians FC, Cork Alberts FC and Cork Everton FC all came and went before City formed."

This is from rsssf ...
"[1] Cork Celtic known as Evergreen United 1951-9,
Cork Celtic 1959-79.
[2] Cork United (1) known as Fordsons 1924-30,
Cork 1930-8, Cork City 1938-9, Cork United 1939-48.
[3] Cork United (2) were known as Albert Rovers 76-7,
Cork Alberts 77-8, Cork United 79-82."

And this is wikipedia:
"Fordsons: 1924 - 30
Cork: 1930 - 38
Cork Bohemians: 1932 - 34
Cork City: 1938
Cork United (later to be Cork Athletic): 1939 - 57
Evergreen United (later to be Cork Celtic): 1951 - 79
Cork Hibernians: 1957 - 76
Albert Rovers (later to be Cork Alberts and then Cork United): 1976 - 82"

But who is right!?
06/04/2006, 12:31 PM
pineapple stu

The team names in the STIGonline article are all accurate, as best as I can tell. The article was written with the help of rsssf - you can check every final league table in the Ieeland section and see just which Cork clubs were around when. They aren't all the same team of course, and at times there were two (and I think three at one stage??) clubs in the league at the same time.
06/04/2006, 12:34 PM
Gareth

I worte a thread with all the names and changes over the years in Cork but I dont have time to search for it!!
06/04/2006, 12:43 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

you can check every final league table in the Ieeland section

Cant seem to find it .... ja'have a link ?? :eek: :p
06/04/2006, 12:44 PM
pineapple stu

www.dontbeapedanticbo11ox.ie :p
06/04/2006, 12:47 PM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

www.dontbeapedanticbo11ox.ie :p

Look lads ... the truth of it is .... there is only one team worth worrying yourselves over and thats the eircom League Champions 2005 :p

Nothing else matters really when you think of it like !! :D
06/04/2006, 12:51 PM
pineapple stu

But what'll you be calling yourselves in ten years' time? ;)
06/04/2006, 1:10 PM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

But what'll you be calling yourselves in ten years' time? ;)

Ha ha !! :p Thats easy ....... Legends !! ;)
07/04/2006, 12:25 PM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin

I was talking to a few friends of mine about football in Cork city and we were going through all the various clubs there have been down through the years in the LOI. I think we put together a fairly complete list, but then we had the problem of which clubs were the same just under a different name (Cork Alberts and Albert Rovers being an obvious one), and then we wondered which club survived the longest (even with name changes) at LOI level (Albert Rovers still exist I think at AUL level!). Can anyone help out? Apologies if it was a thread once-upon a time but I'm just curious.

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=29317 :)
08/04/2006, 7:55 AM
Ronin

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=29317 :)

Thanks Tiktok and everyone else. There's still a mismatch of all the different strands of information, but would it be fair to say the clubs in Cork were:

1. Fordsons-Cork-Cork City-Cork United-Cork Athletic (1924 - 1957) *34 years
2. Cork Bohemians (1932 - 1934) * 2 years
3. Evergreen United-Cork Celtic (1951 - 1979) *29 years
4. Cork Hibernians (1957 - 1976) *20 years
5. Albert Rovers-Cork Alberts-Cork United (1976 - 1982) *7 years
6. Cork City ( since 1984) *23 years

So, Fordsons etc were around for the longest, then Evergeen etc., then City (City have had the same name for the longest).
And the current Cork City had/have a strong association with Cork Celtic.

Does that sound logical! Does anyone have parents or grandparents etc. that know much about the older clubs? I must try and find that book on Cork soccer ... I wonder was Plunkett Carter behind that one as well!?
08/04/2006, 9:37 AM
CollegeTillIDie

There is no direct connection between Cork Celtic and Cork City.
I researched this very topic for an article in a general LOI Fanzine called
" Head The Ball" back in the late 1980s!