Richardson reveals transfer clause

Cork City will receive the paltry sum of €10,000 should Kevin Doyle make his senior Ireland debut versus Cyprus in nine days time.

It had been thought thatDoyle's call-up would hand the leesiders a timely financial boost ahead of tonights UEFA Cup clash with Czech side Slavia Prague.

But with the club set to take in €100,000 in gate receipts from the sell-out crowd this evening, that figure pales into comparison.

And it led to a stinging criticism from Leesiders boss Damien Richardson over the Wexford man's transfer to Reading in June.

"Cork were poorly compensated over Kevin's transfer and will be poorly compensated over Kevin's elevation to International status" said Richardson.

City received only €117,000 for the transfer-thanks to a clause inserted into Doyles Turners Cross contract.

"The club was taken advantage of" said Richardson.

The clause remained when Doyle renewed his contract last year, but that fee hardly represents his rapid progress with Reading.

Both sides agree to a contract. Why keep moaning about something that could have been counteracted by Cork City when the contract renewal was on the table.??

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

Both sides agree to a contract. Why keep moaning about something that could have been counteracted by Cork City when the contract renewal was on the table.??

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rico wasnt involved

That is a paltry amount alright to receive if/when he gets capped. Have to agree with the above though, City shouldn't have been naive enough to not negotiate a better deal.

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rico wasnt involved

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Rico wasn't involved with the club when the contract was renewed, so basically its none of his business.

What if Kevin Doyle turned out to be a flop at Reading?? Bet you'd be delighted with your €117k then.

Brian Lennox should have sought wiser counsel than he did in re-negotiating his deal. Thats where the blame lies, not with Pat Dolan, Kevin Doyle or anybody else.

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

Thats where the blame lies, not with Pat Dolan, Kevin Doyle or anybody else.

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I think the majority of City fans, in the cold light of day, know exactly where the blame lies .. There is most definitely no doubt about i can tell you that.

We you are preached something time after time, like a rhetoric or mantra and then to witness the opposite in practice, it become all so clear.

I dont want to keep having to say this all the time, i'd rather it was left lie to be completely honest, but in saying that ..... be left in no doubt what so ever how most people feel about certain parties involvement. No matter how it is said, no matter how many times it comes up and no matter how it is rehashed each time .... the outcome will be the exact same.

Most people by now know exactly where the blame lies !!

I'll have all the usual suspects on here having ago at a certian manager of a certian Wicklow based club for this but, Cork City Football Club have no one to blame but themselves for the Kevin Doyle deal.

They were the ones who agreed to the clause in his contract and they are the ones who drew the contract up for Doyle to sign, if they were not happy or unsure of anything they should have brought in outside assistance to get the best deal possible for the club.

Considering Bray will recieve between 75k-100k depending on preformance/goals for an 8 week loan deal for Zayed, Cork got taken to the cleaners and all for a quick buck or two.

The final decision with these things always lies with the Board of Directors, they were happy to let Doyle sign the deal at the time so no point being bitter about it now (and yes, i know Rico had nothing to do with it), it's a harsh mistake to learn but not one City will make again.

Isnt it about time we sorted out one contract for the league ???? I think so.. it would clear up these pathetic sums of money and help the league a lot.

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Cork will got taken to the cleaners and all for a quick buck or two.

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I dont disagree with what you are saying but what i did explain in the last post is that City fans are under no illusion, you can skip around all the rights and wrongs, and the whats, ifs and buts .... but when all that is done .... City fans are completely aware of the deceitful and underhanded actions of a certain person.

We can all argue that amounst ourselves, and have a great debate on it .... but what i am saying is that the general public in Cork, from the most passionate fan, down to the cab driver with no interest what so ever, but knows the whole story backwards at this stage, the guy who will read two articles on Citys games a year to the guy who will only miss two games a year. None of them are in any doubt at all about what went on.

It is now simply just common knowledge !!
Nothing we can do except remember it !!

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Originally Posted by A face

I think the majority of City fans, in the cold light of day, know exactly where the blame lies .. There is most definitely no doubt about i can tell you that.

We you are preached something time after time, like a rhetoric or mantra and then to witness the opposite in practice, it become all so clear.

I dont want to keep having to say this all the time, i'd rather it was left lie to be completely honest, but in saying that ..... be left in no doubt what so ever how most people feel about certain parties involvement. No matter how it is said, no matter how many times it comes up and no matter how it is rehashed each time .... the outcome will be the exact same.

Most people by now know exactly where the blame lies !!

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Couldn't have put it better myself, No 1 fan my arse.

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Originally Posted by Roo69

Cork City Football Club have no one to blame but themselves for the Kevin Doyle deal.

They were the ones who agreed to the clause in his contract and they are the ones who drew the contract up for Doyle to sign, if they were not happy or unsure of anything they should have brought in outside assistance to get the best deal possible for the club.

The final decision with these things always lies with the Board of Directors, they were happy to let Doyle sign the deal at the time so no point being bitter about it now (and yes, i know Rico had nothing to do with it), it's a harsh mistake to learn but not one City will make again.

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My points exactly. Kevin Doyles 'agent' may have had issues with Cork City, but in his capacity as advisor to Doyle and getting him the best deal he could, he didn't half do a bad job.

Blame whoever ye want, at the end of the day Brian Lennox had the power to veto that contract and didn't. End of story. It can be compared to why Liverpool had to let Michael Owen go so cheaply...sell now, or get bugger all in a few months.

Easy blame the hate figure....who I'm sure is secretly laughing his ass off at ye now over this one.

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I dont disagree with what you are saying but what i did explain in the last post is that City fans are under no illusion, you can skip around all the rights and wrongs, and the whats, ifs and buts .... but when all that is done .... City fans are completely aware of the deceitful and underhanded actions of a certain person.

We can all argue that amounst ourselves, and have a great debate on it .... but what i am saying is that the general public in Cork, from the most passionate fan, down to the cab driver with no interest what so ever, but knows the whole story backwards at this stage, the guy who will read two articles on Citys games a year to the guy who will only miss two games a year. None of them are in any doubt at all about what went on.

It is now simply just common knowledge !!
Nothing we can do except remember it !!

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if its such common knowledge, then why the f*ck dont you tell us who you're talking about? i for one don't have a clue and all these nudge nudge wink wink references are annoying. is it fat pat? the manager of bray? spit it out for god's sake

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if its such common knowledge, then why the f*ck dont you tell us who you're talking about? i for one don't have a clue and all these nudge nudge wink wink references are annoying. is it fat pat? the manager of bray? spit it out for god's sake

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I think you'll find its Pat Dolan they so bitterly refer to.

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I think you'll find its Pat Dolan they so bitterly refer to.

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maybe i'm slow but could A Face also tell me why fat pat would have done this? what motivation? what benefit to himself (ie, money)? if you're so bloody certain about it, then tell us exactly what, and more importantly why, it happened. otherwise you're talking out your arse.

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"The club was taken advantage of" said Richardson.

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And Pats were taken advantage of in the transfer of Doyle to Cork. I'm sure Lennox wasn't unhappy with that particular piece of business instigated by Dolan (and why should he?). What goes around comes around.

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who I'm sure is secretly laughing his ass off at ye now over this one.

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All the way to the bank infact .... he didn't do too bad out of it himself i'm sure. But, and this is just me speaking .... i hate the kunt all the more now that he is laughing, and one more thing .... this is a small country, and even smaller in football terms. He might have done well out of this one but in the long run .... will it come back to haunt him ? What has he excluded himself from at this stage ?? Who knows right now .... but if it does haunt him ..... i will split a side laughing at him !! What goes around will always eventually ... !!

To all the knowalls:Cork pittance if Doyle earns senior spurs Thursday September 29th 2005
CORK CITY will earn a paltry payment of just £10,000 if former striker Kevin Doyle plays for the Republic of Ireland against in next month's World Cup qualifiers. Their deal with Reading allows for two payments of £10,000 when Doyle appears in his first friendly and competitive matches. Having sold him to Reading for a knockdown price of £80,000 last June because of a get-out clause in his contract, Cork have every reason to feel hard done by. Doyle's valuation is likely to zoom to £1million once he makes his competitive international debut having already made a sensational start to his new career in England with three goals in the Championship.

The £80,000 get-out clause had been inserted in Doyle's contract when he joined Cork City from St Pat's in 2003 as Pat Dolan's first signing. When he signed a new contract the clause had to remain because players offered lesser terms automatically become free agents.

"The club was naive and were taken advantage of but not, I stress, by Kevin Doyle," said Richardson. "A lot of people make big talk about our players going to England, or not going, and here was one of our top players going for little or nothing. As it turned out it looks more and more like nothing."
Richardson was at pains to point out that Doyle had nothing to do with what happened. "I hope Kevin has great success because he is everything a professional footballer should be. He will be one of the top players this country has had for a long, long time" he said.

Gerry McDermott

It's 12.5% of the transfer fee that was paid, while it works out as a pittance, it's not the worst deal really.

As for the clause, there's absolutely no problem with the one inserted by Pat Dolan first day €117,000 for an 18 year old that no-one had seen play isn't the problem.

It's the fact that it remained in the contract on renegotiation that CCFC fans should have a problem with. Who you blame is up to yourself.

Pat would have been someone Doyle would have spoken to about the contract though and I'm 100% convinced that he told his brother at Reading that the buy-out clause existed, so his own hands are far from clean.

Obviously he wasn't employed by the club at the time so I can see why it might seem strange to people on the outside where our problem lies. But you all didn't have to deal with the sh!t that his sacking left, there's a lot of bad blood there.

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It's the fact that it remained in the contract on renegotiation that CCFC fans should have a problem with. Who you blame is up to yourself.

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CCFC had no choice about the matter, titktok.
As can be clearly seen from my post above, Doyle would have become a free agent if the clause had been excluded by CCFC, therefore their hands were tied and the club cannot be blamed for that.
We all know who did the dirt in this deal. Just because his cheerleaders refuse to accept it, it doesn't change the fact that the the ex-manager of this club is a bullsh*tter, a liar and a petty little man.

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CCFC had no choice about the matter, titktok.
As can be clearly seen from my post above, Doyle would have become a free agent if the clause had been excluded by CCFC, therefore their hands were tied and the club cannot be blamed for that.
We all know who did the dirt in this deal. Just because his cheerleaders refuse to accept it, it doesn't change the fact that the the ex-manager of this club is a bullsh*tter, a liar and a petty little man.

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While I agree with a lot of what you said patsh, the quote in your post is

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When he signed a new contract the clause had to remain because players offered lesser terms automatically become free agents.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they negotiated properly and upped Kevin's wages/bonus to a point where he was happy to accept a larger buy-out clause, then it wouldn't have been offering him lesser terms.

Otherwise every club would have to sign their youth players to million euro buy-out clauses at the outset, because they wouldn't be able to increase it in case the player made it.

point though, the main few words above are:
"to a point where he was happy to accept a larger buy-out"

I think Kevin wanted out, and I think Dolan advised him and tipped off Reading. I'm not sure Pat had too much to do with the contract renegotiation. I know I wouldn't have let Pat negotiate any contract, especially one for a player he had such a close relationship with.