Alan Kelly last night

any bohs fans at tolka last night would have left the ground furious after alan kelly robbed us of at least a point! the blondy git sent off dessie byrne after only 15 mons and nearly booked the rest of the the team!he gave stupid fouls againts us such as phsical tackles and hands on back wen jumping for the ball!i wouldn't have mind but shels did it all nite and got away with it!!the linesman on the riverside was hit with something and the ref was informed!after that it was hard to see if bohs even got a free kick!!jus cause some scumbag hit the linesman doesnt mean you punish the team on the pitch!i thought pat fenlon should have been sent off for having a go a dessie byrne and alan reynolds is bthe biggest dirt bag ive ever seen! he was only playimg so he could kick the **** out of kevin hunt! reynolds has no football skill or ability, he's pure scum!ive never left a game dat fustrated before after poor refereing!i think brown envelopes are being past between fat ollie nd dat excuse for a ref alan kelly! :mad: :mad:

According to the radio commentary and several posters on Gypsies Web - Kelly got the sending off spot on - it was a horrendous challenge.

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he gave stupid fouls againts us such as phsical tackles and hands on back wen jumping for the ball!

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:confused:

Both included in the Laws of the Game as infringements of Law 12.

Therefore Free-Kicks will be given for them

Anyone who thinks that Byrne deserved anything other than a straight red and a swift kick up the arss either missed the incident or is the most blinkered-Bohs fan in the world. There is no debate whatsoever as to whether or not Byrne deserved to go for what was an absolutely disgraceful "challenge".

As for the penalty, at the time I thought it was a penalty, and though it didn't look as close-cut on the highlights I still think that the referee got it right.

Alan Kelly isn't a particularly good referee and he made a few mistakes, but I don't see how he cost Bohs the game and I wish that people would only blame the referee for losing matches on the rare occassions that it is actually the ref's fault.

As a Shels fan I thought Kelly was pretty poor alright, and I can understand Bohs fans being annoyed, but then again, when has Kelly ever been anything but poor?

I thought the peno looked a bit dodgy, but the red card was totally justified.

It was one of the worst tackles I've seen in a long time, an absolute kung-fu classic, watch it on EL weekly, Fenlon was right to be furious.

All Fenlon did was shout in Byrne's face, no way he deserved even a booking.

Fair play to Bohs though, they put in a real gutsy performance with their backs against the wall and could have easily snatched a point, another very mixed performance from Shels.

I thought Tony Grant and Colin Hawkins were both absolutely superb, the battle between the two was fantastic to watch, two players at the top of their game.

Bobby Ryan picked up a deserved MOM award too, by far and away his best performance in a Shels shirt, to be fair though, he hasn’t got many chances on the right side, Ritchie won’t be back in that team for a while.

Weso - absolute class as always what can you say?

Thought Reynolds did a decent job, sure he was there to kick lumps out of the opposition but we’ve missed that this season, he has a great habit of making fouls look not so bad that they deserve a yellow card, he still managed to get booked for persistent fouling though. :D

Thought he did Stuey Byrne’s job better than Stuey did. Stuey is having a bad season by his high standards, and I’d like to see Weso move into the centre along side Reynolds, as Weso does most of his damage from central positions anyway.

Crawley, as usual, was fvcking abysmal!

Mixed performance by Shels, as I said, but we got the result we needed. Bohs can have grievances sure, but their biggest grievance should be with Byrne for getting himself so stupidly sent-off, why the Bohs fans were applauding him when he let the field I have no idea?

pinching myself, but apart from Ryan's MOTM award - should have gone to Houlihan -I agree with every word of the above.

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Originally Posted by Munchie

any bohs fans at tolka last night would have left the ground furious after alan kelly robbed us of at least a point! the blondy git sent off dessie byrne after only 15 mons and nearly booked the rest of the the team!he gave stupid fouls againts us such as phsical tackles and hands on back wen jumping for the ball!i wouldn't have mind but shels did it all nite and got away with it!!the linesman on the riverside was hit with something and the ref was informed!after that it was hard to see if bohs even got a free kick!!jus cause some scumbag hit the linesman doesnt mean you punish the team on the pitch!i thought pat fenlon should have been sent off for having a go a dessie byrne and alan reynolds is bthe biggest dirt bag ive ever seen! he was only playimg so he could kick the **** out of kevin hunt! reynolds has no football skill or ability, he's pure scum!ive never left a game dat fustrated before after poor refereing!i think brown envelopes are being past between fat ollie nd dat excuse for a ref alan kelly! :mad: :mad:

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Are you for real??? :confused:

Also Bohs fans I hope you are all embarrassed/ ashamed and regretful of your behaviour last night! Breaking into tolka to write judas on the pitch with regards to players you "don't give a fcuk about," leaning over the railings and spitting on any Shels player that came close and throwing sausages on the pitch???

I'm sure the "big"ot club are proud of your behaviour, you were out sung and out classed last night, FORZA SHELBOURNE!

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

you were out sung

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Bloody hell yourself and munchie must have been at a different match to everybody else :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

you were out sung and out classed last night, FORZA SHELBOURNE!

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Even I can't agree with that.

There was a regrettably large scum element in the Bohs support last night, but the vast majority got behind their team very well

When the Riverside takes on the New Stand in a signing match it is automatic win by default for the Riverside due to the acoustics (this coming from someone who sits in the main stand).

Also, stunned to read how glowing in praise all my fellow Shels fans were of the performance on Shelsweb, I thought it was a very average performance on our part, we struggled to win against 10-men.

It seems with football fans it is either all-black or all-white, certain things improved last night for Shels, but a lot more needs to be done before I'd be confident that we could go on a long unbeaten run.

Drumcondra Rred/The Owl

1. ONE person painting on the pitch. I thought it was funny, a big cheeky and out of order, but funny none the less

2. Shels struggled to overcome a team with 2/3 kids in from the start and a bench made up of kids. I was just as proud last night of the team and the performance they put in for the crest as I was on the two nights we won league titles, in 2001 and 2003.

3. Bobby Ryan Man of the match was a joke. I thought Wes Houlihan was by far the most creative player and the one who caused Bohs endless problems.

4. I saw one can, one coin and a load of sausages thrown onto the pitch. The sausages were harmless enough and Shels fans are immune to throwing objects like bottles from the new stand,so get over yourself.

5. Des Byrne was rightfully dismissed. It was a disgraceful tackle. Noa rguments there

6. The peno looked dodgy, and I think Matt Gregg's reaction tells its own story. I think the Bohs performance deserved a point but thats the way it goes. Its the first time since November 2003 that we have lost to Shels.

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Originally Posted by TheOwl

There was a regrettably large scum element in the Bohs support last night, but the vast majority got behind their team very well

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what makes you say a large scum element?

Last night was a good night for Bohs fans. Yes we lost but we have 4 under 20's playing and 5 more on the bench. We played with heart and spirit that has been lacking in the last 3/4 seasons at the club. The manager and players were delighted with the support they got last night.

As for the topic of the post, thought Kelly was a joke made loads of mistakes. The sending off looked right to me on first look so can't disagree with that. I will see on TV3 if it was that bad. The peno looked dodgy and going by Greggs reaction I think Heary may have made a meal of it. Again though Kelly was at a bad angle. The rest of his decisions were crap though.

As for Shels I have to agree with the above post. They are creaming themselves about beating a team of 10 men with a load of kids. They won and probably just about deserved to but if I was a Shels fan I would not be banking on winning too many more if they play like that. As for MOTM Ryan, he made one decent cross all night, the rest into Gregg's hands. He can't even take a corner and remember he was up against a striker playing at left back. Hoolihan was far the better player but I guess Shels just wanted to be petty. Still reckon Ryan will be gone at season's end.

Great Bohs crowd there, far more than Shels and as for noise sorry we won hands down. Could be the roof, could also be that you only have kids in the lego stand and maybe their voices have not broken yet. As for the abuse your players took, totally deserved, go to a derby in Europe and look at how its done. Maybe if your security did their job and not let people hang over the fences it would be a start.

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Originally Posted by TheOwl

Even I can't agree with that.

There was a regrettably large scum element in the Bohs support last night, but the vast majority got behind their team very well

When the Riverside takes on the New Stand in a signing match it is automatic win by default for the Riverside due to the acoustics (this coming from someone who sits in the main stand).

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I didn't mean in a contest against each other of course the riverside would win, I meant over all, sure Bohs shut up as soon as they went behind!!!

If the Bohs fans were out-sang last night then why were the radio commentaters raving about Bohs vocal support and didn't mention Shelbournes.

You're just trotting out the usual "we're better fans than you" stuff DR.

You even have a Shels fan, who was in a position to know, disagreeing with you.

And what about the low Shels turn-out, absolutely shocking. Main stand 50% full and lego stand 75% full - what does that equate to... about 1000 fans.

When I entered the ground I had to walk past the Shels entrance where there was no queue but at the Bohs fans enterance the queue was halfway down the stand.

Ryan as Man of the match. LOL
He was being marked by a centre forward and he still managed to drop nearly every cross into the keeper arms. Rubbish. I hope Shels signed him on a long contract. Houlihan is the only player you have worth his salt. But giving him his deserved MOTM wouldn't have been enough of a dig at the departing Bohs fans.

Shels won the match but when you adjust the result for the 10 men and the kids playing for Bohs I thought the most expensive squad in the history of the league were very poor - real problems there. Needing a dodgy penalty to get in front against a bunch of kids.
Oh dear.

This is the happiest I've felt after a defeat in a while.
Fair sending off. Idiotic penalty, plus ridiculous tolerance of Reynolds, who no one should have the temerity to call a footballer, = 10 men v. 12.
It was nice to see Crowe not gloat over his goal too much, though I'm not necessarily going to get a warm glow from it -- I don't know how intentional it was. Crawley and Hawkins should be severely sanctioned for taunting the away support after the penalty. On the other side of the account, spitting by a minority of Bohs support was a disgrace. Security -- body searches, horses, paddy wagons and scary guys in combat gear -- was ludicrously over the top, where a couple of weeks ago there was none at Pats, and in my view hyped up the atmosphere.
Giving Ryan MOTM is sheer nonsense. I agree that Wes Houlihan was superb: he was the victim of Shels' pathetic Bohs-centric world view -- they'd rather cynically spite us than fairly reward their own. But the real star was the 10-man Bohs team, many of them boys, who made this expensive elite look positively ordinary. Bohs MOTM was Hunt, followed closely by O'Reilly, who looks 10 but is, in fact, 18.
Did we have more people there than the Lords of Europe? It certainly felt like it! Where did I put those lozenges? :D

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

you were out sung

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Are you for real?


you cant actually be serious?


even when bohs went behind we were still louder than your "fans"

The above Bohs posts vary in sense, I agree with most of them more than I disagree, but I'm not the type to go nit-picking through them, I gave my opinion of the match/crowd already.

Did think Ryan was excellent though (and I've been a big critic of him this season), remember he brilliantly set-up Crowe in the first-half too, with Crowe then missing a sitter.

However, at the end of the day, the match and the post-match discussions are all sound and fury, but when you consider where the two of us are in the league, it could all well signify nothing!

Went to the game as nuetral and thnk Shels deserved the win. I also think that if Dessie Byrne made that challenge infield (i.e away from the Shels dugout) it probably wouldn't be a red card as it was more wreckless and stupid than malicious but he couldn't really argue either way

I thought it was a penalty but looking at it on tv it may not have been but at the very least it was tough call, so won't blmae Kelly for that. Apart form that though Kelly had a shocker. Loads of ridiculously nitpicking frees.

On the game, it was fairly poor and having only seen Shels against pats this year I think as a team they're finished. The only players to play well were Crowe (who was a true pro), Ryan and Hoolahan (who IMO was MOTM) Not one defender played well and jason byrne was awful

Bohs battled hard but the kids looked out of their depth tbh but harkin had a fine game.

Off the field the atmosphere wasvery muted. I went to the game expecting fireworks but neither fans did anything special. Thought Shels fans were particularly quiet

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Went to the game as nuetral and thnk Shels deserved the win. I also think that if Dessie Byrne made that challenge infield (i.e away from the Shels dugout) it probably wouldn't be a red card as it was more wreckless and stupid than malicious but he couldn't really argue either way

I thought it was a penalty but looking at it on tv it may not have been but at the very least it was tough call, so won't blmae Kelly for that. Apart form that though Kelly had a shocker. Loads of ridiculously nitpicking frees.

On the game, it was fairly poor and having only seen Shels against pats this year I think as a team they're finished. The only players to play well were Crowe (who was a true pro), Ryan and Hoolahan (who IMO was MOTM) Not one defender played well and jason byrne was awful

Bohs battled hard but the kids looked out of their depth tbh but harkin had a fine game.

Off the field the atmosphere wasvery muted. I went to the game expecting fireworks but neither fans did anything special. Thought Shels fans were particularly quiet

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The atmosphere was absolutely crap because anything that might be used to raise the temperature was confiscated at the door. Even the fake money was confiscated because it was deemed "inflamatory". People even had ID cards taken by the cops.

Judas Ryan/Crowe banners werent allowed in. The body searches and searching of kids was a complete joke.

To say our players were out of their depth is a bit unfair, it was a few kids with 6 appearances between them playing for a team with 10 men against a Shels team full of experience.

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Originally Posted by bohs til i die

To say our players were out of their depth is a bit unfair, it was a few kids with 6 appearances between them playing for a team with 10 men against a Shels team full of experience.

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I didn't say they should've been better but its obvious they'll need time to grow into the league. The Shels players had bags of experience and knew how to deal with the Bihs kids, and the Bohs kids didn't really know what to do. IMO that means they were out of their depth