Euro 2008 - Seedings update

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09/06/2005, 12:45 PM
eirebhoy

Euro 2008 - Seedings update

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European Champs World Cup 2006 Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points 1 A Czech 8 22 8 21 2.6875 2 A England 8 20 6 16 2.571428571 3 A Holland 8 19 8 22 2.5625 4 A Portug. 8 20 2.5 5 A France 8 24 6 10 2.428571429 6 A Sweden 8 17 6 15 2.285714286 7 A Croatia 8 16 6 16 2.285714286 8 B Germany 8 18 2.25 9 B Italy 8 17 6 13 2.142857143 10 B Poland 8 13 7 18 2.066666667 11 B Turkey 8 19 9 16 2.058823529 12 B Spain 8 17 7 13 2 13 B Greece 8 18 9 15 1.941176471 14 B Ukraine 8 10 9 23 1.941176471 15 Swiss 8 15 6 12 1.928571429 16 C Russia 8 14 7 14 1.866666667 17 C Latvia 8 16 6 10 1.857142857 18 C Bulgar. 8 17 6 8 1.785714286 19 C Romania 8 14 9 16 1.764705882 20 C Serbia 8 12 6 12 1.714285714 21 C Belgium 8 16 6 8 1.714285714 22 C Slovak. 8 10 8 17 1.6875 23 D Denmark 8 15 8 12 1.6875 24 D Norway 8 14 6 9 1.642857143 25 D Sloven. 8 14 6 9 1.642857143 26 D Ireland 8 11 7 13 1.6 27 D Hungary 8 11 6 10 1.5 28 Austria 8 9 6 11 1.428571429 29 D Bosnia 8 13 6 7 1.428571429 30 D Scotla. 8 14 6 6 1.428571429 31 E Lithua. 8 10 6 9 1.357142857 32 E Israel 8 9 7 11 1.333333333 33 E Finland 8 10 7 9 1.266666667 34 E Iceland 8 13 7 4 1.133333333 35 E Estonia 8 8 9 11 1.117647059 36 E Wales 8 13 6 2 1.071428571 37 E Albania 8 8 9 9 1 38 F Maced. 8 6 9 8 0.823529412 39 F Georgia 8 7 7 5 0.8 40 F Belarus 8 3 6 7 0.714285714 41 F Armenia 8 7 9 4 0.647058824 42 F Cyprus 8 8 6 1 0.642857143 43 F Moldova 8 6 6 2 0.571428571 44 F N.Irel 8 3 6 3 0.428571429 45 Azerb. 8 4 7 2 0.4 46 Liecht. 8 1 8 4 0.3125 47 Andorra 8 0 8 4 0.25 48 Faroes 8 1 6 1 0.142857143 49 Malta 8 1 7 1 0.133333333 50 Kazak. 5 0 0 51 Luxem. 8 0 7 0 0 52 San M. 8 0 7 0 0

2 wins and a draw will get us up to 1.7222. Hopefully enough to get us into Pot C. Its amazing that we can win the group and we'll still be in Pot bloody C.

And remember that there are no playoffs, 1st and 2nd qualify.
09/06/2005, 1:04 PM
tiktok

That'd be a bit of a kick in the balls wouldn't it
09/06/2005, 1:05 PM
thejollyrodger

what about 3 wins ? where would that get us#?
09/06/2005, 1:06 PM
Stuttgart88

I'd be happy to take that particular kick in the balls, wouldn't you? :)
09/06/2005, 1:07 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

what about 3 wins ? where would that get us#?

1.8333. Probably still Pot C.
09/06/2005, 1:08 PM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I'd be happy to take that particular kick in the balls, wouldn't you? :)

Staying in Pot D that is ;) :D
09/06/2005, 1:17 PM
Dawn_Run

Interesting stuff eirebhoy. If we get into pot c our qualifying group could potentially contain Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland? Assuming they remain in different pots
09/06/2005, 1:20 PM
SeanieBoy

I would happily take:

Sweden
Greece
Slovakia
Albania
Moldova
Andorra
09/06/2005, 2:53 PM
Yellowbelly

Hi All,

I reckon those seedings are a fairer reflection of where we are in the current pecking order. The other rankings that include friendlies are a bit of a joke. How we are seeded doesn't seem to effect whether we qualify or not. Am I right in thinking we were seeded 1 for Portugal 04?

Cheers,
09/06/2005, 3:18 PM
thejollyrodger

yeah, we were seeded 1st. It doesnt seem to make any difference what so ever. if we have the players then we will get 1st or 2nd spot. I hope its not a British team like norn iron.
09/06/2005, 3:46 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowbelly

I reckon those seedings are a fairer reflection of where we are in the current pecking order.

Up there with the mighty Scotland, Slovenia and Bosnia. Hurray! :(
09/06/2005, 3:55 PM
Yellowbelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Up there with the mighty Scotland, Slovenia and Bosnia. Hurray! :(

Well, they have a similar points average to us and its not as if we have had really tough teams in the last two qualification campaigns. We seem to do better when we are up against it rather than when favourites. By the way I do fancy us to get 7 points out of our last three games. I just hope its enough for automatic qualification.

Cheers,
09/06/2005, 4:01 PM
Stuttgart88

I think our ranking flatters us, our seeding points don't do us justice. I think any of the Pot A or B teams would prefer to have any of the Pot C listed teams below in their group than Ireland.

Outside Argentina, Brazil & maybe Mexico are there any other non-European sides that'd be in the "real" top 15 teams?
09/06/2005, 4:22 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by totalfootball

eirebhoy, could you tell us what url you are getting these seedings from? Thanks.

keeping track of them myself. Its not that hard. :)
09/06/2005, 4:23 PM
NeilMcD

Lads Scotland got to the play offs in the last qualifying, we did not. I think we are better than them but there are many people in Ireland that tend to laugh at Scoland in a very arrogant way. i would hate us to become like England supporters and dismiss people in that way. It was not too long ago when they were streets ahead of us. If Walter Smith was in charge from the very start of their campaign I would think they would be in contention for a play off place.
09/06/2005, 4:30 PM
NeilMcD

People shoul remember that there are more seeding and less teams in each seed. Been in pot A does not equate with Seed 1 in the last few qualifying groups. The reason behind this is that there are only 7 groups which mean 7 top seeds. In the last few qualifying camapaigns there are 10 groups. Thefore if you were 18 or 19 you were a 2nd seed but now you woudl be in Pot C. For 2004 we had 2 good qualifying campaigns behind us with lots of points from 2000 and 2002 and that pushed us up to the top seeds. I reckon our placing in Europe is about 15.
09/06/2005, 9:31 PM
tricky_colour

I suppose we could expect to be in group b for the qualifiers for 2010?
Assuming we take 20 or 22 points from 10 games, hopefully.

Not alot makes sense we are 11 in Europe according to FIFA
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statisti...y-2005,00.html
yet 26th according to this lot.

Latvia, world ranked 65 (26 in eurpoe) are 17 here.

Also are you better in a big groups or do the points against cr*p teams
not count? Seems as they do though as all out 13 points are in there,
which includes the Faroes.

How can we be in the same pot as Scotland FFS? The couldn't even beat
the Faroes!!
13/06/2005, 2:36 AM
onenilgameover

To be honest I fancy us to qualify with us in pot c with two to qualify. i think it suits us better to go for first place and ultimately get second...