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I'm sure this has been debated before but what does anyone think? Would the premier division be better it there were only the four big Dublin clubs, Shels, Rovers, Bray and UCD. It would reduce the ammount of Dublin Derbys and give the rural teams a better chance.
I remember last season when Bray vs UCD was the big southside derby but now I seem to be going to a derby every second week. They loose their appeal and as Rico would say, this is the entertainment business after all.
So Bohs and St.Pats are not in the big 4????
The only good thing about it is bing a Harps fan up here, get to see more away games.
Nice try.
As a Dubliner I agree that there are too many clubs in the EL from the capital. Unfortunately where are the clubs to replace them going to come from. Not sure if I know any non-league teams outside of Dublin who could play in the EL. I know Mullingar Town attempted it a few years ago.
UCD - Big :D :D
Bray - Dublin??????
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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever
I think that the population spread in the country is matched by the spread of clubs. A quarter of the clubs are based where a quarter of the population live.
Dublin clubs attendances are low only because the areas where the clubs are based are not representative of large sections of the City, e.g. In real terms Dalymount, Tolka and Inchicore are all pretty much City Center.
The City has spread far from this and it's hard to get people from Lucan, Santry (soon to be remedied) or other outlying regions to identify with the 'city center' teams.
UCD still suffer from the thinking that you have to have gone to the college to support them, so they can't get kids supporting until they reach college age, by which stage those that will go to EL games will probably have picked their teams anyway.
The Regional teams can pretty much draw on an entire county by in large(and often beyond) to get their support base.
The problem is lack of interest, not 6 clubs in a city of 1.2million people
Yeah ... it depends on the other clubs around the country to make it so !!
The one thing about Dublin .... if there was one big Northside club and one big Southside one ..... they would do very well, as regards crowds etc. .... Dublin clubs would never have that much vision and thought ... and their infighting would prevent it from ever being realised so it'll never happen, which is great.
To many Dublin clubs alright but who do you get rid of.Pat's and Rovers certainly aren't the force they used to be but they are in the prem on merit.Maybe if there was a northern and southern league with 2 groups of 8 and the top 2 from each group go through to a semi final with much bigger prize money.
Group A
Longford Town
Cork City
Waterford Utd
Galway Utd
St. Pats Ath
Shamrock Rvs
Bray Wnds
UCD
Group B
Shels
Bohs
Drogs
Derry
Harps
Sligo
Dublin City
Athlone
With a lower league consisting of Cobh,Limerick,Monaghan,Kildare,Dundalk,Kilkenny with the bottom team from each group getting relegated and replaced with a team from the lower tier.
Just a thought.
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Yeah ... i'd say we'd agree with that alright !! :p
We are a WICKLOW club for f-uck sake....Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
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And why do people start singing "You're just a shít Dublin suburb, a shít Dublin suburb" everytime they seee you ???? :confused: :eek:
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I rekon 3 dublin teams.. It's time for the shams dublin city and ucd to go away and die. They are just a drain on the rest. They need to be taken over by the big 3 shels boos and pats .
doesn't help the non-Dublin clubs that a lot of players want to stay in Dublin and train on their own, only travelling for games - means that if two clubs offer same money and terms to a player they're more likely to stay in Dublin.
The big areas of growth in Dublin are outsdie the M50 which are not been catered for by eL clubs. Rovers have attempted to try to in Tallaght but we all know what happening there.
One of either Bohs or Shels needs to move outside the City. Blanchardstown is a massive catchment area & prime supporter area. Pats can be the inner southside dublin club.
Supporters of dublin teams will use excuse of too many clubs for poor attendances but will also complain if suggest they move or merge.
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Because they are ALL confused and have never seen a map!!!!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
you still wouldn't get into the premier division :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dubman
Short answer, yes. Dublin is about as big , very roughly, as Manchester of Liverpool and Turin and a good bit smaller than Rome or Milan each of which have two big clubs (I know, Tranmere, Trastevere etc. I said big clubs) - put another way; there are 10 clubs ( I think, might have forgotten one or two) in the greater London area with a Pop. of close to 10 million - there are 7 in Dublin - I'm including Bray - for 1.2 million.
An all Ireland league with 2 from Dublin, 2 from Belfast I each from Cork, Derry , Limerick, Louth, Lisburn/Portadown and Waterford would have a chance of producing a decent fanbase for each team and a viable existence for clubs.
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