Setanta Cup / Peace Process

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02/02/2005, 8:59 PM
B-Stand

Setanta Cup / Peace Process

Not good news for the forthcoming Setanta Cup; :(

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...169703,00.html

PEACE PROCESS IN CRISIS

The IRA has withdrawn from the disarmament programme in Northern Ireland, plunging the peace process into a new crisis.

In a statement it the Provisionals said the scheme to put all their weapons completely and verifiably beyond use was no longer on the table.

They claimed the British and Irish governments had withdrawn their commitments and obligations.

The IRA has so far carried out three acts of decommissioning.

The statement said: "We do not intend to remain quiescent within this unacceptable and unstable situation.

"It has tried our patience to the limit."
02/02/2005, 9:16 PM
exile

it will only affect the muppets who want to mix politics and sports
02/02/2005, 10:44 PM
�anna

it shouldn't and hopefully won't make any difference
03/02/2005, 9:09 AM
observer

When sport permits organised criminal organisations to mar attempts to cement cross border relations it will be a sad day.
The IRA have become marginalised on both sides of the border at this stage and there can never be a return to the past scenario. There is no longer a cause, just gangsters wishing to continue their lucrative smuggling, drug pushing and protection rackets. :(
Lets be positive and retain the enthusiasm on both sides of the border for this great footballing inititive. :)
03/02/2005, 9:17 AM
Passive

Should make our trip to Glentoran in two weeks a bit of fun. :)
03/02/2005, 9:27 AM
pete

Neither SF or the IRA represent me so I don't see how anyone from NI could think i've an affiliation to them.
03/02/2005, 11:25 AM
BiffTannen

I don't see how it would make the slightest difference.
03/02/2005, 12:36 PM
gypsyfella

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile

it will only affect the muppets who want to mix politics and sports

LOL
says the fella who has

"HAVE YOU EVER ASKED YOURSELF WHEN WILL SINN FEIN/IRA GIVE UP MURDER ,EXTORTION,ROBBERY ?
WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A FF/FG IF THEY THOUGHT MURDER IS NOT A CRIME."

that as a sig!!! :)

**** - have you ever seen 'vote IRA' on a ballot? Oh sorry you were using the DUP's terms there, i apologise... why an irishman would side with DUP logic is beyond me...

as for this affecting the Setanta CUp?!?!?! what are you on??
03/02/2005, 12:37 PM
Dotsy

According to the Irish Times Linfield have agreed to let a Belfast Camogie team train on their traning pitch ahead of a cup semi final this weekend. Apparently The GAA at Casement Park and Cliftonville wouldn't help them out. A good example of sport not been influenced by politics.
03/02/2005, 12:41 PM
gypsyfella

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotsy

Apparently The GAA at Casement Park and Cliftonville wouldn't help them out. A good example of sport not been influenced by politics.

wouldnt help them out? thats not what this article says.... but fair play to Jeffrey's - good pr!

A women's Gaelic team has trained for a crucial cup tie at the home of Northern Ireland's most identifiably Protestant soccer club, it emerged today.

For years Windsor Park in Belfast has been a no-go area for Catholics driven out by sectarian chanting from the terraces.

But the barriers crumbled under sporting goodwill as Linfield FC allowed Camogie players from St Mary's Teacher Training College into Northern Ireland's footballing shrine.

Mr David Jeffrey, the Irish League champions' colourful manager, arranged for pitches to be made available after an SOS call from St Mary's coach Ms Mel Smith.

Ms Smith (50) praised the soccer supremo for rescuing her attempts to prepare properly for this weekend's Purcell Cup semi-final.

She said: "David Jeffrey is a gentleman who worked a miracle for us."

Her students normally practise on gravel pitches close to their base on the Falls Road. But with the critical tie against Queen's University looming, all efforts to find a grass surface for night time training appeared doomed to failure.

Local Gaelic Football clubs were unable to help because of no floodlighting.

As time began to run out, she had a final, apparently futile, idea on Monday.

"David Jeffrey's name came into my head," she recalled. "I don't know anything about soccer, but I'm mad about all sports and read about Linfield always seeming to win.

"My personal feeling was that it would as hard to get Casement Park (Antrim GAA's ground) as Windsor Park so I got hold of David's number, phoned and asked him.

"He listened to me and by the time I was finished he was laughing and said 'No problem, let me make a few arrangements'."
03/02/2005, 12:55 PM
Dotsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyfella

wouldnt help them out? thats not what this article says.... but fair play to Jeffrey's - good pr!

A women's Gaelic team has trained for a crucial cup tie at the home of Northern Ireland's most identifiably Protestant soccer club, it emerged today.

For years Windsor Park in Belfast has been a no-go area for Catholics driven out by sectarian chanting from the terraces.

But the barriers crumbled under sporting goodwill as Linfield FC allowed Camogie players from St Mary's Teacher Training College into Northern Ireland's footballing shrine.

Mr David Jeffrey, the Irish League champions' colourful manager, arranged for pitches to be made available after an SOS call from St Mary's coach Ms Mel Smith.

Ms Smith (50) praised the soccer supremo for rescuing her attempts to prepare properly for this weekend's Purcell Cup semi-final.

She said: "David Jeffrey is a gentleman who worked a miracle for us."

Her students normally practise on gravel pitches close to their base on the Falls Road. But with the critical tie against Queen's University looming, all efforts to find a grass surface for night time training appeared doomed to failure.

Local Gaelic Football clubs were unable to help because of no floodlighting.

As time began to run out, she had a final, apparently futile, idea on Monday.

"David Jeffrey's name came into my head," she recalled. "I don't know anything about soccer, but I'm mad about all sports and read about Linfield always seeming to win.

"My personal feeling was that it would as hard to get Casement Park (Antrim GAA's ground) as Windsor Park so I got hold of David's number, phoned and asked him.

"He listened to me and by the time I was finished he was laughing and said 'No problem, let me make a few arrangements'."

I didn't mean it to sound like I was having a go at either the GAA or Cliftonville. The Times said that Casement park "could not accomodate them". Bad choice of words on my part. I just thought it was a nice gesture from Linfield.
03/02/2005, 5:34 PM
dortie

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyfella

LOL
says the fella who has

"HAVE YOU EVER ASKED YOURSELF WHEN WILL SINN FEIN/IRA GIVE UP MURDER ,EXTORTION,ROBBERY ?
WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A FF/FG IF THEY THOUGHT MURDER IS NOT A CRIME."

that as a sig!!! :)

**** - have you ever seen 'vote IRA' on a ballot? Oh sorry you were using the DUP's terms there, i apologise... why an irishman would side with DUP logic is beyond me...

as for this affecting the Setanta CUp?!?!?! what are you on??

Couldnt have said it better !!

Personally, the IRA statement is no surprise to me or any other Republican, they have made excuse after excuse for not talking to the party who have the majority of the catholic vote. They use every excuse possible. Unionists, British & Irish governments.....all of them.

And......
This wont make one blind bit of difference to the Setanta cup !!!! Even if a full scale war breaks out again. Stupid suggestion.
03/02/2005, 7:59 PM
wakenuppaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by dortie

Couldnt have said it better !!

Personally, the IRA statement is no surprise to me or any other Republican, they have made excuse after excuse for not talking to the party who have the majority of the catholic vote. They use every excuse possible. Unionists, British & Irish governments.....all of them.

And......
This wont make one blind bit of difference to the Setanta cup !!!! Even if a full scale war breaks out again. Stupid suggestion.

Here here. Not often I side with you dortie. Mr D.
06/02/2005, 12:54 PM
Plastic man

Quote:

Originally Posted by dortie

Couldnt have said it better !!

Personally, the IRA statement is no surprise to me or any other Republican, they have made excuse after excuse for not talking to the party who have the majority of the catholic vote. They use every excuse possible. Unionists, British & Irish governments.....all of them.

And......
This wont make one blind bit of difference to the Setanta cup !!!! Even if a full scale war breaks out again. Stupid suggestion.

May of escaped everyones attention but a power sharing government was up and running then collapsed because of PIRA spy rings / terrorist crime failing to cease! The whole world can witness prisoner releases and the dismantling of police stations/army barracks and the reduction of troop levels etc .....why cant we witness or even be told of the weapons that are decommissioned....why the big secret!! do the paramilitaries on all sides have less weapons than their members have been lead to believe, are they embarassed about the questions the rank and file would want to ask where all the money was spent and on what over the last 30 plus years
06/02/2005, 1:24 PM
Pat O' Banton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic man

May of escaped everyones attention but a power sharing government was up and running then collapsed because of PIRA spy rings

Do you have some evidence that the PSNI don't, 'cause I don't think that they have ever successfully found anything to back up their inital raids and accussations. I could however of course stand to be corrected.
06/02/2005, 5:19 PM
Plastic man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

Do you have some evidence that the PSNI don't, 'cause I don't think that they have ever successfully found anything to back up their inital raids and accussations. I could however of course stand to be corrected.

PSNI don't have evidence ! :cool:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2538481.stm
06/02/2005, 5:35 PM
wakenuppaddy

Your link was from 2002. The man in question was released after a few years in custody because of lack of evidence!!!!
People just can't see past this "its all the IRA's fault" attitude .
Fact is everytime Sinn Fein get near power sharing the whole thing folds,I personally can't understand why people can't see what is going on.As with the bugging issue and the bank robbery why don't people contact brittish intellligence personnel ,they could fill you in on a few details!
06/02/2005, 5:38 PM
dahamsta

I just want to point out to "Plastic man" that Foot.ie is a forum set up primarily for the discussion of football, particularly Irish football. The off-topic forums are here for the use of our regular members, they are specifically not here to be used as soapboxes by users that came here to debate politics. If you came here to talk about football, get started; if you came here to rant and troll, take yourself off to another site please. Now.

adam
06/02/2005, 6:10 PM
Plastic man

Quote:

Originally Posted by davros

So no mention of Unionist paranoia :rolleyes: then.

Both sides paramilitaries' are as 'bad' of each other(Though it should be remembered in the mire of criminality,both side have a 'cause' ),so you cant really bang on about decommissioning the whole time!

NB.DaH.
Not often I agree with Eoinh,but I for one,have no probs.with PM,despite his :rolleyes: selective use of information! ;)

It's good to talk, however I shall try not to post on anything non footie related, don't want my keyboard/ mouse to be decommisioned!
06/02/2005, 7:04 PM
dahamsta

If bickering like children and idiots is our culture, I'd like another one please.

This topic is going nowhere, consider it locked.

adam