The Facts.

Let's look at the FACTS so that there can be no debate and no 'rumour starting' accusations,
here's our sitation -
WE'VE SIGNED NO ONE! - The transfer deadline is fast approaching and I for one think we need 3/4 new players, we got NO ONE!!!

OUR COACHING STAFF IS RAPIDLY DECREASING! - Have we anyone left???!! :rolleyes:

OUR MANAGER IS STIRRING IT! - Come on, much as I respect Dolan, he moans to the press about EVERYTHING. Now there's the Limerick rumours, which AFAIK, he hasn't even denied.

What's going on?

If Dolan has yet to sign (or be offered) a new contract a rumour about Limerick suits him fine - if Lennox wants to keep him and believes that there is any truth in the rumour, it increases the pressure on him to offer a good deal.


BTW, surprised BRB didn't talk about it last night - even to rubbish the rumour.

No denying though that losing four coaching staff is not good.
Dolan alone did the training yesterday.

Another fact to add to your list? - we've lost the use of UL

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Originally Posted by SSS

Another fact to add to your list? - we've lost the use of UL

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How do you know this ??
There is no point in adding to the rumours that already exist, i am sorry but that sounds exactly like a few lads at the bar decide that the rumour was now confirmed and started telling everyone, to which they replied "sure there were rumour all along so it MUST have been true"


It is the silly season alright ..... i cant wait for the season to start !! :mad:

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Originally Posted by anti dub

WE'VE SIGNED NO ONE! - The transfer deadline is fast approaching and I for one think we need 3/4 new players, we got NO ONE!!!

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Wrong, the deadline is not until March, plenty of time yet. No point in signing anyone just for the sake of brining someone in. We must wait until the RIGHT players come along.
So that statement contains an inaccuracy and an opinion.
Where are the FACTS?
[size=1](First transfer window closes Friday, March 4th 2005. The second transfer window will run for the calendar month of July 2005.)[/size]

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Originally Posted by anti dub

OUR COACHING STAFF IS RAPIDLY DECREASING! - Have we anyone left???!! :rolleyes:

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All the coaches who left did so to further their own career. Were Lennox or Dolan supposed to hold them back from that? Again, the right people must be brought in, not a quick appointment to please impatient and paranoid fans.

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Originally Posted by anti dub

OUR MANAGER IS STIRRING IT! - Come on, much as I respect Dolan, he moans to the press about EVERYTHING. Now there's the Limerick rumours, which AFAIK, he hasn't even denied.

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How exactly is Dolan "Stirring it"?
What has he moaned about? Would it be stuff like "I'd like things to be better at the club"?
Hmmm, now thats not something you would hear too many managers say....:rolleyes:

Nothing personal anti-dub, but this is yet another hysterical thread about nothing at all. The only FACT in you post is that we have less coaching staff now.

[QUOTE=A face]How do you know this ??
There is no point in adding to the rumours that already exist, i am sorry but that sounds exactly like a few lads at the bar decide that the rumour was now confirmed and started telling everyone, QUOTE]

Sorry. I'll rephrase it : We lost the use of UL this weekend. The planned trip was cancelled for reasons unknown. Maybe the detailed fitness information on each players condition has been deemed pointless this season.It is probably purely coincidental that the Limerick/ UL connection of O'Connor and Mahedy is also gone.

I also know that:
Appart from Tynan and some youth from Sligo there were no new faces at B'town today.
There were no coaches there either.
No sign of Coughlan.
The fact that they were at B'town at all is a negative versus last year (last season = UL for first practice game.)

The only dodgy rumour seems to be the Dolan to Limerick one.

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Originally Posted by SSS

We lost the use of UL this weekend. The planned trip was cancelled for reasons unknown.

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How do you know that "we lost the use of UL" ?
As you stated yourself, the trip (if there actually was a planned trip) is off "for reasons unknown".....:confused:

What facts are you on about? All you've done is post a load of hysterical nonsense.

As Pat outlined we have loads of time to sign players if Dolan and Lennox think we need them.

People are going on about Dolan doing the training alone. Well Liam Murphy is in Barcelona with the Colleges team so he can't be there obviously but surely Gerry Harris was there?
Dolan needs time to find an assistant, he has to make sure he's got the right man. If he rushed into it, people would still be moaning. :rolleyes:

Dolan isn't stirring anything. As far as I'm aware the rumour originated from Limerick as they wanted to generate publicity. How can you blame Dolan when it had nothing to do with him? :confused:

I wish people would stop saying we've "lost" UL because it's crap and was just a silly rumour started by some fella on the internet. Some people should know better than to believe these things. We're just not going there this weekend, no big deal. Some players have gone there for fitness tests etc over the last month but nobody seems to want to mention that, people prefer to spread panic with their bullsh!t.

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Originally Posted by Colm

Dolan isn't stirring anything. As far as I'm aware the rumour originated from Limerick as they wanted to generate publicity. How can you blame Dolan when it had nothing to do with him? :confused:

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I'm not one to buy into the silly season rumour mill, and I don't buy that Dolan will go to Limerick, but the newspaper who is pushing this story most vigourously is 'The Star'.
Dolan is their featured Eircom League columnist.

It would be very easy for him to knock this story on the head if he wanted to . :confused:

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Originally Posted by tiktok

I'm not one to buy into the silly season rumour mill, and I don't buy that Dolan will go to Limerick, but the newspaper who is pushing this story most vigourously is 'The Star'.
Dolan is their featured Eircom League columnist.

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The story was in the Sun not the Star.
Dolan has no connection with the Sun and surely if it had been Dolan "stirring it" he would have gone to the paper he writes for and not their rivals.

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Originally Posted by Colm

The story was in the Sun not the Star.

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Fair enough, I don't buy either, but had been told the Star were the ones pushing it. I guess my point is no longer valid so :o

No tiktok, you're right, Colm's wrong. The story was ALSO in the Star last Saturday.

From today's Echo:
"CORK City boss Pat Dolan today rubbished talk linking him with Limerick FC.
The City supremo, just back from a 10-day trip to England, said that he has not received an approach from Danny Drew’s side. “I have had no dealings with Limerick whatsoever. I have had no approach from them and I haven’t met with anyone from the club. I am at a loss to know where these stories are coming from but then I cannot stop people writing such rubbish either,” said Dolan.
“I am only interested in Cork City FC and I want to try and move the club forward and build on the success we had last year. “I want us to be as consistent as we can be again and to continue to be the form team in the new season. “I want us to try and win the Championship this year and that’s all that interests me. I am only interested in Cork City and the betterment of the football club,” he added this morning.
Cork were forced to pull out of a planned two-day trip to the University of Limerick over the weekend because of a referee’s seminar on campus.
City now have plans to go to UL next weekend or the week after as they resumed training for the season at Bishopstown on Saturday and yesterday. Cork had 23 players at both sessions over the weekend."

Anyone want to spout even more bullsh*t rubbish about "losing" UL, and Dolan "Stirring it" ?
:rolleyes:

Maybe the doom sayers and negativity merchants might give it a rest for awhile now. If you don't know, keep quite!

the facts have finally arrived

So the Echo is now Gospel :p

IMO as soon as this story broke it should have been denied by the club with a statement

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Originally Posted by thecorner

IMO as soon as this story broke it should have been denied by the club with a statement

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Dolan was away though and is only just back so this was his first chance to speak with the press on the issue.
Nobody believed it anyway and the club can't be expected to reply to every piece of crap that's printed.

So does anyone else have any more bullsh!t rumours to spread? Would anyone else like to try and damage the reputation of our club with their lies?

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Originally Posted by Colm

So does anyone else have any more bullsh!t rumours to spread? Would anyone else like to try and damage the reputation of our club with their lies?

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john o flynn and georgie are going to be o connors first signings for limerick ;)

we need more notice than that :D :D :D

IMo there are some people out there with an agenda re this club. They seem to have issues with Lennox as chairman and be trying to put pressure on him. For any of you ungrateful ****es who are thinking along these lines, remember what Brian Lennox HAS done, IS doing, and is TRYING to do for this club, and then crawl back under your rock.

re all the rumours, Dolan has put much of it to rest with his comments in the echo. I spoke to one of the players, and was told that they hope derek will be coming back within the next week or two, hoggie and woodsie have signed new deals, and dolan is in great form at training.

the only thing that worries me is the lack of coaching staff, but lets just try and trust that dolan and lennox know what they're doing for a while, will we?

Cork were forced to pull out of a planned two-day trip to the University of Limerick over the weekend because of a referee’s seminar on campus.
City now have plans to go to UL next weekend or the week after as they resumed training for the season at Bishopstown on Saturday and yesterday. Cork had 23 players at both sessions over the weekend."
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In the tradition of some senior posters here I could ignore the primary content of the post and point out that there were actually 24 players there on Sunday. :p

Delighted that the UL is still available (City got in there due to the Limerick coaching connection and it wasn't inconceivable that it could be lost with the departure of the coaches, a possibility made more plausable by the last minute "forced pull-out"- certainly more likely than a clash with a ref convention :rolleyes: ), but find the "forced to pull out" thing a bit amateur - pretty poor planning on someones part (CCFC or UL?)