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Right lads .... another hike in the price !! ... and what are we getting for it ?
What programs are RTE showing that you think we shouldn't be paying for .... first up are all them soaps, Eastenders and Corrie .... pure muck and should be banned post-haste, along with some of those American soaps ... pure shíte, drivel of the highest order ....... what else is on the list ??
Agree entirely - RTÉ has gone to pot in recent years. Desperate Housewives and Desperate Surgery start next week, as if more proof was needed. Course, they're making a big deal of this too... Premiership repeats as well, don't forget! A ridiculous amount is bought in. TV3 is actually worse, if that's possible! Almost always watch BBC, to be honest.
I'm not a soap fan but I'd take them over reality tv any day of the week. The people that make that stuff should be taken outside and shot; the people that watch it should be forced to wear Dunce hats for a month. It's entertainment for the lowest common denominator.
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While I agree RTE are crap for the record TV3 show Corrie but all soaps are a pile of pooh except for Ros na Rún of course :pQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Why are the Soaps even on Rte and TV3 when there already on BBC1 and UTV, I know there are still about 20 people in the country who haven't got the cable yet but why do we have to fork out for it, all they do is take shows that are already been shown by the brits, until they start coming up with some good original shows, hiking the price will not be justified... :mad:
Havent heard about a price hike. What's the jack with it?
€3 on the licence. RTE are rubbish - they have just enough decent/psb stuff for one channel. Since I got my FTV card, I rarely watch anything on RTE/TV3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoo
Sure they need the money to pay those “talented” stars ie: Derek “spanner” Mooney, Plank Kenny, Gerry “know all” Ryan, Gay “f-off and retire” Byrne, Ryan “I'm so brilliant" Tuberety to name but a few, bring back Mike Murphy I say :eek: (Murphys Micro Quiz, quallity stuff)
RTE do show some crap, particularly the stuff that's imported, but from what I've seen in other countries (Belgium, France, US) I think RTE generally do a good job. They are unfortunate that they are next door to possibly the best broadcaster in the world (BBC).
Fair comment about the BBC, but RTE can do so much better. For example compare the caliber of the guests etc on the Late Late when the Dunphy Show was on compared to now?Quote:
Originally Posted by crc
Much as i moan about them in reality i think most people will watch more RTE than other channels. I'm not sure how much public service broadcasting they have left but if want to watch US dramas 'n stuff then RTE usually in before uk stations.
I think the combination of licence revenue & commercial advertising means RTE are in very unfair position with regards the commercial tv stations (tv3, setanta) which probably means tv3 can't even bid for most US programs so RTE gets them on the cheap.
2FM should be sold by RTE as I can't see a single element of public service programming in their entire schedule. Whats the point???
But they only got better guests on the Late Late as they had competition from Dumphy.
You're probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
But whats the story with Corrie and the Champions League then?
RTE are driving me mad, I have to say. I would be a strong believer in the Licence fee and the notion of public service broadcasting, but a lot of RTE's output is now dross. I'm particularly disgusted by Bird and Little's attempts at reporting from South East Asia at the moment....:mad:
RTE may get programs on the cheap, but the reason why TV3 don't get things cheap is because they are mostly owned by Granada and have huge money behind them.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
TV3 have been very successful in trying to portray themselves as a small little tv station fighting against the odds, when they are actually backed by one of the richest broadcast operations in the world.
They can have few rivals for worst, most rubbishy, sh*ttiest TV station in the world.
Very unfair i think.
As stated they've Champions League and Corrie.
I think the news, sport and ireland am are interesting.
I've good time for their presenters but this could just be because they're relatively new faces compared to rte.
That was the point being made though wasn't it? It's true that RTE are well capable of doing things well. If they would only stop aping what is supposedly good tv they would do a lot better. I think it's fair enough that they import some good American/British series cos they generally go for good ones that are widely demanded by Irish audiences; Sopranos, Friends, West Wing, etc. I don't understand the duplication of british soaps though cos it implies that they are not looking at the situation with the viewpoint 'well the audience has all that sh!te on other channels' which, as a public service provider, they should be. The Series The Clinic and Love Is The Drug and shows like The Late Late, Primetime/Q&A and actually their kiddies TV shows are pretty decent efforts and examples of what they are capable of. The biggest problem with RTE is AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN the self-obsessed, back slapping club that exists as its core set of presenters/shot callers. Fcuking Twink getting a special on the LAte LAte over xmas was a joke (major cringe factor when she sang 'I'm still Standing' at the end). Mr. 'amn't i great' Coulter and his arseaboutface attempt to create an Irish Later with Jools Holland show is muck. They also lost quality presenters in Grainne Seoige and Liz Bonnin. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinharp
ITV (i.e. Granada) own shares in TV3, they don't back them as such (and have been concentrating on buying up most of the ITV regions in the UK - only a few they don't own now). And ITV are looking to cut costs at the moment - look at the sky negogiations. I suspect that TV3 get their ITV content at below market price. Personally I think they'd be better going the whole hog and becoming ITV Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
However, to me that's beside the point - RTE get Licence fee money and advertising money and produce in the main shíte, particulary RTE 2 (with a few notable exceptions). TV3, whatever you think of them, don't cost you a penny.
Didn't know that, but it explains a lot! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
RTÉ don't do subtitles for 95% of their programmes, which is a disgrace, and the less said about Aertel, the better! Course, at least they have an Aertel, as opposed to TV3 who have an entertainment magazine with little proper info of any sort...
I would imagine TV3 and RTÉ can both get American cast-offs on the cheap? American programmes make their money in the US and are then dumped to other markets at low prices because it's 100% profit as far as they're concerned. Which means home-made programmes are more expensive, which means you're more likely to buy the next American rubbish that's thrown at you...
As said above RTE have definitely improved their domestic dramas considerably in recent years. They've also given up trying to make a traditional sitcom which has been good decision.
RTE get most of their sport on the cheap via BBC but its still their flagship area. Good decision to drop F1 as probably costing a lot for minimal viewers & is shown elsewhere anyway. I won't say i haven't watched it but i'd be surprised if those saturday afternoon Premiership matches are paying for themselves. Setanta will become a real competitor to RTE Sport & should be interesting to see how that plays out.
Well they own so many of the shares that they more or less own them. TV3 has to make a profit for them, so Granada uses the same formula for TV3 as it does for all it's stations, i.e pump out lowest common denominator dross, which has a very large audience in the UK, so presumably the same here, while trying to rake in as much money as possible. There is a debate here about whether ITV is responding to audience wants, or whether they are simply putting out rubbish and generating the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
TV3 have CL and Coronation Street only because Granada have bought them, so they probably cost TV3 very little. Of their own inhouse productions
Ireland Am thingy is moron level stuff
Eircom Weekly is abysmal, no production values whatsoever
Their current affairs content are mostly cheap American "colour" pieces.
The only goodish thing is they have some decent local news coverage.
Anyway, the thread was about RTE, and they have gone seriously downhill over the last few years.