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Ronaldinho was named the worlds no 1 player this evening.
Thierry Henry was a close second, with European Player Of The Year, Andrei Shevchenko third.
Having seen the three of them play, Im not surprised with the choice, as for me, there is no-one even close to Ronaldinho at the moment. Everytime he gets the ball there is danger for the opposing team. He can tackle, pass, and score great goals. The guy is a pleasure to watch play.
the other two arent bad either!
agreed, Ronaldinho is without doubt something very special and deserving of his award.
Henry can take consolation in the fact that he is the most consistant performer in world football having been voted in the top 2 positions in consequtive years by every national team manager & captain. I look foward to 30 years time when I can tell the kids I saw him play on a regular basis :D
Nice touch with the wristbands and Che Guverra t-shirt too Titi, eat sh*t Arragones!!
interesting who people voted for:
WHO VOTED FOR WHO
ERIKSSON: Henry, Deco, Nedved
BECKHAM: Henry, Ronaldo, Zidane
SANCHEZ: Henry, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo
A HUGHES: Ronaldinho, Henry, Deco
VOGTS: Henry, Deco, Zagorakis
FERGUSON: Rooney, Henry, Gerrard
M HUGHES: Nedved, Makaay, Larsson
SPEED: Nedved, Eto'o, Figo
KERR: Ronaldinho, Henry, Deco
(from BBC Website)
This year international captains as well as managers voted
wonder who cunningham voted for....
Cunningham didn't vote apparently, in today's independent it just says No Captain's Vote. Interesting to see Beckham voted for 2 of his Real buddies
Apparently the reason Ronaldinho won it instead of Henry was to do with the fact that while Henry and France struggled in Euro 2004, Ronaldinho was winning the Copa America for Brazil. International performances must have something to do with the points scoring?? :confused:
Ronaldinho didn't play in the copa america, none of the big stars did, and they still won it at a canter with the majority of the team made up of their U-21 squad
dont think there is any points scoring, solely based on international managers and captains votes with each voting for first second and thrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Five points were awarded for a first place nomination, three for second and one for third.......
wonder why cunnnighham didnt vote, or maybe the ballot card was sent out to Roy Keane instead!
THe sad fact is that all three are strikers.
Ronaldinho won the World Soccer footballer of the year as well.
Why is it sad that they are all strikers?
It's sad because defenders rarely get a mention , never mind being in the running.
I argee with you, but people prefer to see players beating three or four lads and lashing it in from thirty yards and of course they get the gravy. Ronaldinho is a fabulous player and it is well deserved. A defender will never get the award because he cannot delight the crowd in the same way a front runner can even if he never misses a tackle or never sends a pass astray. its sad but what can you do ? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Ronaldinho deserves it for being one of those players that make you want to watch a game of soccer just to see the man in action.Unbelievably skillfull and he always plays with a nice big grin on his face and enjoys every minute of every game.
Henry should smile every now and then after scoring a goal instead of standing there and staring at everyone and and he might win it next year. ;) :D
thats cos the ugly catalan git can't help it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
in fairness, ronaldinho deserves it, because he plays against top class defenders all the time- there aren't really any top class defenders in england so henry has it a lot easier.
I actually think the secret is for him is to win nothing next year with Arsenal and he might win it! Both Ronaldinho and Zidane won nothing domestically or internationally at the time they won the award! In which case I hope he doesn't get it next year either!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
That, and the fact that Thierry seldom if ever performs against big sides in big games, internationally or in Premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
two words spring to mind - IAN HARTE!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
I think if you look at the stats aswell, Henry has more European goals and assists then Ronaldinho too.
Not that I'm arguing, I think Ronaldinho deserves the award, he's an amazing player to watch - just don't buy the rationale you put forward.
Name the top class defenders at Sevilla, Betis, Bilbao, Athlietico, Levante, Sociedad etc etc......
Are Walter Samuel, Raul Bravo, Ivan Helguera better than Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Sol Campbell - I have my doubts. :eek:
500 hundred and something international coaches and captains vote for the man but are blind to the fact that he's a player who 'seldom if ever' performs in big games. Not only that they never learned after voting for him last year too!!! Football is in a dreadful state if the most educated people in the game domestically (2 years running) and internationally (2 years running) vote for a player who isn't up for the BIG games!Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Don't make me do out my goals against big teams in big games list again!!! :D
And if i really wanted, his assist statistics in the big games could hammer the point well home! :D
I didn't mean just Real's defence. helguera is a midfielder and raul barvo is a full back, so they're hardly gonna be the best central defenders around. Samuel was a class act at roma, and will be again when he settles in at Real, Also, the likes of puyol at barca, or ayala at valencia spring to mind. and look at italy- cannavaro, thuram, nesta, maldini, costacurta, mexes, chivu- all better than anything in the premiership. terry is a very good player, but has a long way to go to be considered world class- i.e. winning things and being a regular for england. ferdinand is totally overrated, and campbell is solid, but nothing special. henry definitely has it easier. he might score in big games in the premiership- I don't know or care, but in big european/international games he disappears. and it shouldn't be counted on goals scored anyway, not like ronaldinho is there for the tap ins :DQuote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Sevilla - Alves, Redondo, Pablo RuizQuote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Betis - Lembo (maybe been the top defender in the south american qualifiers?), TAIS, Lis Fernandez Gutierrez
Bilbao - Casas, Santi (getting old now but still majestic), Valasco
Atletico- Edmilson, Marquez, Puyol, Silvinho
Levante -Jesule
Sociedad -Lopez rekarte, Jauregi, Rossato, Liiz Alberto.
I noticed that you tried to compare the best defenders in England with teams in Spain from mostly the relegation or lower middle areas of the table. Lowers your argument slightly personally I would say.