Past And Present?

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i found this a very insteresting article written in the aftermath of irelands 2-1 defeat to scotland in May 2000.

"It is hard to know what lessons McCarthy learned from this pointless game apart from debuts for Stephen McPhail and Dominic Foley. His finishing line-up of Alan Kelly in goal and Babb, Richard Dunne, Stephen Carr and Terry Phelan in front of him; Jason McAteer, Kevin Kilbane, Damien Duff and Steve Finnan in midfield; and Robbie Keane and Dominic Foley could only be called a 'B' team at best."

6 out of that side one awful night nearly 5 years ago are now providing our hopes for qualification in 2006.... o how peoples minds and opinions change! It was also called Unrecognisable Irish beaten by Scotland!

I just wonder who was on the Scotland team?

Are you sure McAteer, Babb & Phelan played in an Ireland B team in 2000 ???

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Surely Phelan had long since retired?

Jesus, I can't even remember that game :o :confused:

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Originally Posted by pete

Are you sure McAteer, Babb & Phelan played in an Ireland B team in 2000 ???

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No, it was compared to a b team.

In fairness 4 years is a long time with young players like duff, keane etc.

Unfortunately attended that game.

Mark Kennedy gave ROI the lead very early on from a free kick. Scotland led by half-time, and comfortably held on. A very poor performance.

First home defeat in almost 40 years against the Scots - since May 1961, in fact

Friendly

Lansdowne Road, Dublin

Republic of Ireland 1 (Kennedy)
Scotland 2 (Burley, Ferguson)

Ireland: Alan Kelly (Blackburn), Stephen Carr (Tottenham), Kevin Kilbane (Sunderland), Gary Breen (Coventry), Phil Babb (Liverpool), Stephen McPhail (Leeds Utd), Jason McAteer (Blackburn), Steve Finnan (Fulham), Mark Kennedy (Manchester City), Robbie Keane (Coventry), Niall Quinn (Sunderland)

Subs: Damien Duff (Blackburn) for Kennedy 61 mins, Terry Phelan (Fulham) for McPhail 61 mins, Richard Dunne (Everton) for Breen 77 mins, Dominic Foley (Watford) for Quinn 77 mins

Manager: Mick McCarthy

Scotland: Neil Sullivan (Tottenham), Christian Dailly (Blackburn), Matt Elliott (Leicester City), Brian O'Neill (Wolfsburg), Gary Naysmith (Hearts), Craig Burley (Derby), Paul Lambert (Celtic), Barry Ferguson (Rangers), Neil McCann (Rangers), Don Hutchison (Everton), Billy Dodds (Rangers)

Subs: Kevin Gallacher (Newcastle Utd) for Dodds 46 mins, Allan Johnston (Sunderland) for Lambert 75, Colin Cameron (Hearts) for Ferguson 84, Ian Durrant (Kilmarnock) for Naysmith 89, Stephen Pressley (Hearts) for McCann 90

Referee: Victor Pereira (Portugal

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Originally Posted by pete

Surely Phelan had long since retired?

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You'd have thought so, but no. The great man came on as a sub to a raucous cacophony of jeering from the Irish crowd. Shrugged it off and embarked on a couple of his trademark thundering touchline runs (can't quite recall if he was anywhere near the ball, but it was always a joy to see Terence in full flow). Sadly this meaningless cameo in a miserable defeat was Phelan's last appearance in an Irish shirt. For shame. :(

I can't remember a thing about that game, I thought I would have remembered getting beat by the Scots as well as debuts by the likes of McPhail. I was away that summer, was it on then? Jaysis, Terry Phelan in an Ireland shirt. I honestly thought McCarthy had got rid of him long before that. Was Phelan all that bad? Sorry, my memory of him is in 1993-4, playing a couple of stormers, he was highly rated at one stage? It's discomforting to think of how clear my memory was before I started college. :p

he was good around 10 , 11 years ago . managed to help get us knocked out of the world cup . but hey his mothers from sligo so hes not all bad. ;)

His mother was at school - Tubbercurry VS - with my mother. Which means that my mother is also from Sligo... :eek:

I knew there was a reason you appointed me a mod here, Gustavo... :p :D

:D PP

I clearly remember Don Hutchinson's embarrassing nutmeg of Phil Babb for one of Scotland's goals. Getting nutmegged by Ronaldo might be excusable but Don Hutchinson?

this could be a sligo reunion thread:P i also happen to be from sligo...gurteen, home of the outstanding Gurteen Celtic and Eastern Harps!!

me too :)

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Originally Posted by livehead1

this could be a sligo reunion thread:P i also happen to be from sligo...gurteen, home of the outstanding Gurteen Celtic and Eastern Harps!!

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how does a sligo man end up following Linfield?
just curious

Whereas a lot of that irish team have become international regulars virtually the whole scottish team is gone now which might explain their demise.

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Originally Posted by livehead1

this could be a sligo reunion thread:P i also happen to be from sligo...gurteen, home of the outstanding Gurteen Celtic and Eastern Harps!!

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also home of "theres only one red army" author and all round good guy eamon sweeney !

I remember that game. Or rather I remember catching the last ten minutes before heading out to a party, getting completely drunk and hailing a taxi my lying down in the middle of the road... Well, technically I was told that last in work the next day... :p

Funny how you remember things at times!

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Getting nutmegged by Ronaldo might be excusable but Don Hutchinson?

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Ah now, lay off Hutchison! Sure didn't he score the only goal for Scotland in Wembley the previous year in a Euro 2000 play-off?! Granted they'd lost 2-0 in Scotland, but an honorary Irishman nonetheless! :D

i was on trial with them wen i was on holiday couple of years ago. jst thought put it up for the craic.

id say they would love your foot.ie profile :D