Predictions for remaining Group D games

After that one all with Poland and our much improved 2nd half performance, I still think we're in with a shout of qualifying from this group.

Here are my predictions for the remaining games;

JUNE
Poland 3pts (home v Georgia)
Rep of Ire 3pts (home v Scotland)
Germany 3pts (away v Gibraltar)

SEP
Scotland 3pts (away v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (home v Poland)
Rep of Ire 3pts (away v Gibraltar)

Poland 3pts (home v Gibraltar)
Rep of Ire 3pts (home v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (away v Scotland)

OCT
Germany 3pts (away v Rep of Ire)
Scotland 1pt (home v Poland)
Poland 1pt (away v Scotland)

Germany 3pts (home v Georgia)
Scotland 3pts (away v Gibraltar)
Poland 1pt (home v Rep of Ire)
Rep of Ire 1pt (away v Poland)

FINAL TABLE
Germany 25pts
Poland 19pts
Rep of Ire 18pts
Scotland 17pts

Prediction is that we will draw with Scotland & lose to Poland & Germany and not qualify in the end.

Basically we have to beat Scotland. End of story.

We have to beat Scotland in June - thats for sure but i think Scotland will draw in Georgia ......

Agree, I think Scotland could find Georgia tricky. It would be typical Ireland to draw with Scotland but then to be thrown a lifeline by Scotland slipping up in Georgia.

I think we must beat Scotland at home. If we dont then we deserve nothing. Simple as that really. If we beat Scotland, then it is very conceivable that we get 9 points out of 9 leaving us with 17 points going into the final two games. It could be a case of winner takes all then against Poland. Its hard to be overly confident but for now we cant look beyond the Scottish game.

I think Scotland probably have enough about them to grind it out in Georgia but we could test their new found confidence if we beat them. Getting extremely greedy now but we could probably do with bettering their 1-0 win against us also, or at least replicating it. The group is so tight it's very possible that we could finish on the same amount of points. Needless to say I'd take any sort of win though.

Win first, win by two next.

It's hard to make predictions because it doesn't feel right saying Ireland will have a bad result. What I do think is that Ireland, Scotland and Poland are broadly similar in terms of ability - the Poles have the most quality in terms of personnel, with Ireland and Scotland having probably the better team spirit.

Anyhow here goes:
Ireland 2 Scotland 1
Ireland 2 Georgia 1
Gibraltar 0 Ireland 5
Ireland 0 Germany 4
Poland 1 Ireland 1

I still think Georgia could play a part in this group, be it by drawing/beating Scotland at home or by drawing with Poland in Warsaw. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be too shocked if they drew with us in Dublin, though I do expect us to have a little too much for them. The Germans will comfortably beat Scotland and Poland also.

I was looking at the likely third placed teams in the other groups. There's a few menacing looking teams but equally a few very mediocre teams as well. I'm guessing for us to be the best third placed team and avoid the playoff we would need something special like beating Germany or Poland.

this wont help our cause if it happens...
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/inter...cotland-clash/

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Originally Posted by TrapAPony

Prediction is that we will draw with Scotland & lose to Poland & Germany and not qualify in the end.

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Quite a disappointing post mate. Was expecting something more positive.
I've just watched the game again and we played some great stuff. I've also watched Scotlands 6-1 win and they were pretty ordinary considering they had their strongest team. I'm gaining in confidence we'll win in June.

It's too late in the day now for Georgia to bother about getting a draw against Scotland. It's a pity but its a thing I've always emphasised on here. Luckily for us though we just about squeezed a win out of Georgia.

It's down to us lads at this stage, us and no one else.

Ireland missed their chances against Scotland(draw) and Poland(win) already so we are unlikely to qualify at this stage.

Best we can hope for is to be still in with a chance for the final game needing a win in Poland to qualify.

Poland 3pts (home v Georgia)
Rep of Ire 1pt,Scotland 1pt (home v Scotland)
Germany 3pts (away v Gibraltar)

Scotland 3pts (away v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (home v Poland)
Rep of Ire 3pts (away v Gibraltar)

Poland 3pts (home v Gibraltar)
Rep of Ire 3pts (home v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (away v Scotland)

Germany 1pt Ireland 1pt (away v Rep of Ire)
Ireland 1pt (home v Germany)
Scotland 1pt (home v Poland)
Poland 1pt (away v Scotland)

Germany 3pts (home v Georgia)
Scotland 3pts (away v Gibraltar)
Rep of Ire 3pts (away v Poland) Heart say Ireland win, head says poland

Germany 23
Ireland 19
Poland 18
Scotland 18

Hard to predict what is going to happen next week let alone from June onwards but here is my take on what’s going to happen for the craic.

Currently:
Poland 11
Scotland 10
Germany 10
Ireland 8

JUNE
Poland 3pts (home v Georgia)
Rep of Ire 1pt (home v Scotland)
Germany 3pts (away v Gibraltar)
Scotland 1pt (away to Ire)

Poland and Germany win.
We draw with Scotland, either we go a goal down early and go all out for the draw or we get an early goal and retreat further and further…..

Poland 14
Germany 13
Scotland 11
Rep of Ire 9

SEP
Scotland 3pts (away v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (home v Poland)
Rep of Ire 3pts (away v Gibraltar)

Germany are stuck right in a battle so they beat Poland at home.
Scotland scrape past Georgia and Robbie Keane gets a double hat trick against The Island Rock.

Germany 16
Poland 14
Scotland 14
Ireland 12

Poland 3pts (home v Gibraltar)
Rep of Ire 3pts (home v Georgia)
Germany 3pts (away v Scotland)

Germany have their tails up now and beat Scotland in Hampden but not without a battle .
Keano is dropped for the Georgia game and Shane Long scores twice. The debate rages on.
Poland score 10 against the British Overseas territory.

Germany 19
Poland 17
Ireland 15
Scotland 14

OCT
Germany 1pt (away v Rep of Ire)
Scotland 1pt (home v Poland)
Poland 1pt (away v Scotland)
Ireland 1pt (home to Germany)

Germany know they only need 1 win to secure qualification and with a home game to come later in the week against Georgia, are happy not to take too many risks in Dublin 0-0
Scotland / Poland is very cagey with no-one wanting to make a mistake. Scotland also know that they have Gibraltar in the last game and with Ireland away to Poland – they know a draw virtually guarantees a play-off spot. 0-0

Germany 20
Poland 18
Ireland 16
Scotland 15

Germany v Georgia
Scotland v Gibraltar
Poland v Rep of Ireland

So what happens next is anyone’s guess - Germany and Scotland are guaranteed to win.
A draw is enough for Poland. With Scotland in the play-off. However if Poland lose they are also out, given the tie-breaker with the scots has the scots through on away goals.
There would be no play-off in this scenario for Ireland – win and we are through – lose or draw and we are out, given our inability to defend leads over the past few years – not the worst scenario to be in.

Given our inability to defend leads but score late goals? Our big win away from home due? Beating a team seeded higher than us in a must win clash away from home?

That's fairytale stuff, real fairytale stuff - its never going to happen. It would be some party though, nice to dream.

I do think the outcome until the last group game above is very likely though. A campaign that pitters out a bit like Kerrs.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

That's fairytale stuff, real fairytale stuff - its never going to happen.

I do think the outcome until the last group game above is very likely though. .

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Thanks for clarifying?

The must win game in poland, last group game, against a direct competitor for the one position, winner takes all, we will not win it, what i meant was all the other results leading up to that game are all very likely.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

The must win game in poland, last group game, against a direct competitor for the one position, winner takes all, we will not win it, what i meant was all the other results leading up to that game are all very likely.

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I never said we would win it!

I think England exposed Scotland's weaknesses and I expect a highly professional German outfit to do the same. Germany realise they have work to do in this group and Scotland, Poland and ourselves exploited a post WC hangover / complacency. That'll be gone in the autumn. The Poland result keeps us in it and it's still very tight. As usual we have kicked the can down the road and "need a good back 9" to make it up the leaderboard. I fancy we can do better than Scotland against Germany, I think we can beat Scotland, and Poland away is anyone's guess. Georgia away is not a shoo in for Scotland but I think they'll sneak it.

I think Germany will be far more aware of our ability to score a last minute goal and will control proceedings towards the end. I also have a feeling that Strachan might change things around again, certainly we wont see 3 at the back for them again...I think they will get a draw at home to Germany.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I think Germany will be far more aware of our ability to score a last minute goal and will control proceedings towards the end

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well, they didn't learn the lesson of the last min Ibaraki goal did they? maybe third time lucky

sorry, fourth time lucky.... Keoghs goal in 2012