how many more crashes befor xmas
how long before somebody is killed
should it have been put undergound????????
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how many more crashes befor xmas
how long before somebody is killed
should it have been put undergound????????
It's a lot safer than ordinary road transport. Drivers have to adjust to their presence.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecorner
It would have been made prohibitively expensive in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecorner
Give it time. Light rail has made a big positive difference to traffic flows and journey opportunities in several cities here in England since reintroduction. I'm sure Dublin will benefit in similar ways, especially once a link is finally made between the two lines.
:) PP
Most of the crashes have been fairly minor anyway, car driving idiot breaks his wing mirror and the like.
Couldn't have been more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Defo should've gone underground, short termism not too IMO. Possible exception would be the Sandyford line, where it's running on the old train line (which incidentally could've linked with the dart in Bray had Rathdown not given permission for houses on part of the line :rolleyes: ). Would've meant less disruption in the process too.
Well it could start by introducing proper and reasonably priced park and ride schemes. I have a few doubts - in Manchester most of the lines were the original surburban train lines (only the city centre bit was new). More of a myth, that many cities feel for. Compared to the trains, capacity is lower and the un-maned stations have lead to a huge increase in attacks (muggings and sexual attacks). Undecided really on Luas - may be convinced when they extend it to Cherrywood so that I can park and ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
There's always one moany cnut :p
Having driven in Dublin at the weekend for the first time since the Luas was running must say that Jackeen drivers just aint used to it up there yet. Must say though every Luas I saw was fairly packed.
Luas is very good - best thing thats happened to the city in years
its obviously limited in that (like the dart it only benefits those on the route) but so wot those pampered southside cnuts had a handy journey to workey every day while we in madcow roundabout land spent 87.4% of our natural lives in traffic
as an unexpected side benefit for anyone travelling the new line, its opened up the city and creates a real modern feel - the stretch from jervis to the museum being the case in point - already new shops and business have sprung up on the route - some of it even looks vaguely "cool" - smithfield may finally be opening up to dublins population at large - as long as it avoids any temple-barization it will all look coolaboola in a few years time
can only be good
the crashes are nearly all a result of car driver stupidity - but than we already knew irish drivers were the worst in the world - yes people a yellow box - learn the rules of the fckn road!
bit sceptical at first at the amount of money pumped into it. only been on the sandyford line myself great way to travel. really fast on the old line but slows down considerably on the street. whats the tallaght line like?
Putting it underground would have just pushed up the cost without it being 100% safe. Barcelona metro had a crash yesterday and we're due some sort of disaster on the underground in London, although to be fair while the track is about as safe as Packie Bonner in the Dutch game in Orlando, the safety measures brought in since the last crash 20 years ago ensure that only the willful criminality of a driver (i.e. manually by-passing those safety measures with the intent to cause destruction) would ensure a smash.
i use it every day for work and its great ( tallaght line ). it takes 17 to 20 mins from my stop to town and i'm never waitin longer than 10 mins for one....the only thingi would like is a 5 day ticket to suit work.
And we'd be still waiting for it. How long has Dublin Port tunnel taken??? and they still not finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecorner
[QUOTE=wws]Luas is very good - best thing thats happened to the city in years
its obviously limited in that (like the dart it only benefits those on the route) but so wot those pampered southside cnuts had a handy journey to workey every day while we in madcow roundabout land spent 87.4% of our natural lives in traffic
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To be fair the red cow is part of the southside too .
Luas is a waste of money. Will be surprised if can even break even & aside from rush hour is only used by OAP in middle of the day as is free to them when they'd be on buses otherwise.
As far as i can see Luas is good if runs outside your home otherwise just causes more traffic congestion.
btw Could easily have achieved same affect as luas with buses on dedicated off road route.
Stupidity of luas can be shown by new attempts to link from st stephens green to o'connell st via nassau st instead of find off road or side street solution. :rolleyes:
Would the busses have to be "off-road" in order to go on an "off road route"?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Are you talking about big wheel busses like Army trucks that would cut across fields and parks instead of going on the road? ;)
[QUOTE=Kingdom]Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
in the broadest sense yes - but in the strictest sense no - ure a long way from the dort line travelin up to tallaght v the mad cow and on up the naas road
Is it possible to buy a return ticket for the Luas that doesn't have to be used on the date of issue? I suspect not.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Also, get a leap card. It's only a fiver. And will save you that almost straightaway with two return journeys and multimodal transit.
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Originally Posted by pete
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Originally Posted by Peadar
Well, he was kinda wrong. And I think he meant segregated bus lines like say Ottawa's Transitway where it uses the old canal bed of the Rideau and Ottawa Canals to have segregated running.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Rapid_Transit
And I know that I'm replying to a 12 year old thread. But I can't let that lie. And I hope that Peadar gets an email notification now that confuses the bejaysus out of him.