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Looks very like the NEC Nijmegen stadium where Cork City played. Capacity was 12,000-15,000.
I think Bohs and Shels should get together and build a new stadium.
There's a site with a half built stadium ready and waiting out in Tallaght ..... (Bohez not welcome though).Quote:
Originally Posted by paudie
The successful candidate for the Operation of Morton Stadium will be announced quite soon. The new operator will be in place by January 05. Shelbourne are one of 5 parties bidding for the control of the stadium. Fingal Co Council have just received a grant e300,000 to widen the pitch and relocate the hammer to outside the track. WATCH THIS SPACE.
I really, REALLY, don't want a stadium with a feckin running track around it :/
Shels and Bohs should both build a new ground for themselves to share somewhere in the Northside, with the money they could get together along with grants etc they should be able to build a superb stadium. Imo, what would be ideal though maybe not realistic is a big stadium, around 22,000, which is in two tiers, so the top tiers would be closed during league games so the atmosphere wouldn't suffer with smaller crowds in a bigger stadium. The stadium would be able to host cup finals, smaller international matches and u21 matches and more importantly, european matches. It's probably unrealistic, but if they can get the money together that would be the kind of stadium they should go for, they need to have ambition or every time a big european game comes around we'll be sacrificing home advantage and shooting ourselves in the foot.
I definitely think all league of Ireland clubs should be aiming for something like Nijmegen have. Couldn't believe it when i saw it. Looks good and with a capacity of 12,500 would suit most league of Ireland teams.
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If you look around can see that a few other Dutch teams have almost carbon copies of that stadium so must be a set model or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by boc123
beyond any el teams budget at the moment somewhere between €9m-€15m and as there are no grants being given to any el clubs there is no hope of this happening in the forseeable future.The gound is willem II ground in Tilburg.
Problem is you could never get planning to do anything like that near the city centre (dalymount) - overshadowing the surrounding houses. However you might get permission in the Morton. I know there is no atmosphere in Morton & a good breeze coming through all the time BUT with lots of money . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Why exactly? Surely it would be much, much cheaper just to redevelop Tolka, putting up flood defences, etc. than going out and building a brand new stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayFrancis
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Originally Posted by brendy_éire
tolka has an inadequite supply of everything.......parking,floodlights,pitch size, changing room size...everything
has to be a new stadium...a joint venture with bohs would be good!!
Sounds a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Is it not possible to buy Morton and do away with the running track and building huge stands with all that extra space left without the running track?
Parking ... Who owns the land across the road from Tolka ???Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayFrancis
Floodlights .... 3 phase wiring is there so that ain a big job, non-issues infact
Pitch ... fair enough but Highbury is smaller ??
Changing rooms .... what are you changing ?? If you were build a new stand then job done.
I am agreed .... Tolka .... if money was invested would be grand. It would need to be 20,000 but it would be fine.
Need to sort out the teams playing there though. Was there four teams there this year ... that is way over the top.
Shels would probably get a right bit of money in Tolka for housing devlopment so it would make sense to move. I think its the clubs ambition to move, they did a peice on it on TV3. The threat of flooding is a headache a club doesnt need, or something they shouldn't spend money on.Quote:
Why exactly? Surely it would be much, much cheaper just to redevelop Tolka, putting up flood defences, etc. than going out and building a brand new stadium
Shels should really get together with another club like Bohs and develop a stadium maybe at abbotstown. The FAI are going to relocate there and are on about building a stadium for training for Ireland. Obviously thats not going to be used 100% of the time and there is little point in replicating infastructure.
The U-21's need a location to train to so they could train and play there too.
There is lots of room out there for additional training pitches and even things like car parking. Public transport will no doubt have a link out to abbotstown so it would be good future planning.
The FAI is set to get government funding for the small stadium out in abbotstown so if Bohs and Shels got on board the four parties could afford a 15,000 or maybe even 20,000 seater stadium. €20 million would develop something pretty impresive.
The Nijmegan stadium cost 8 million euro
they sold it to the council for 10 million and now lease it back
sweet deal
I dont think the government would be too happy with the national athletics track being ripped up so that some soccer club can move in there. The hammer being moved outside the track is ****e cos the hammer would have to do with length not width. Its the triple jump and long jump lanes that need to be moved outside the running track to bring in a soccer club. But isnt the stadium in Brussels (used to be the heisel) the same as Morton with the jump areas on the inside? What Morton has going for it is location, as an athlete (who never ran there) i know the facilities are poor apart from the main stand. Its also the home of an athletics club....Eamon Coughlans one...oh ****it im forgetting the name and they the amin tennents would/will have the final say about who or what goes in there.
The Idea wiith Moton stadium and shels is based on the sale of Tolka.
Currently shels have no money to do up Tolka, so talk of building anew stand and spending money on flood prevention is a non starter.
The idea is they sell Tolka (or their lease of it) back to the council, who in turn sell the land to a developer, this could be worth anythin from 4-15 million to shels based on differnet reports (shels wouldn't get 100% of the sale value of the land, they would need to come to an agreement with the council)
Shels then go up the road to morton with a bag full of cash and then they take ownership of Morton (the council feel it is a drain on them and theyare looking for tenders to take over th erunning of it, shels are one of the tenders and would be in a strong position to pump money into it and then rent it to the OCI for track and field events) the deal is that it would have to stay as an athletics venue.
Essentially SHels swap Tolka for morton and probably about é8millionwhich would enable them to turn Mortoon into a purpose built 10k seater sportin arena, not the two bit ****holes that the rest of us play in.
In my opinion, the best move would be for them to sell Tolka and either move into Dalymount, or for bohs to sell Dalymount and shels to sell tolka and both move to Morton (the FAI stadium in abbotstown wont happen in the next decade, look how hard it was to get money for the main stadium in lansdowne and the gov wont give htem 20 mill to build an eircom league stadium. Also Perhaps Pats should loook at sellin Richmond and going to tallaght, no longer can clubs play in ****holes like Tolka, Dalymount, Richmond etc which offer no customer comfort, facilities or anything. We need to have modern looking fully seater stadia, not the two bit heaps we currenlty play in.
The answer...Drogs and Dundalk sharing, Rovers and Pats sharing, Shels and Bohs sharing, Athlone and Longford sharing, Cobh and Cork Sharing, maybe Harps and Derry (that one would be interesting) and I'm sure there would be other opportunities. Its time supporters realise while we are concentrating on preserving our history, days when we used to get 10,000 to evry home game and all that, we are slowlky falling further behind Rugby, GAA and TV, The Cinema and singing in the rain as alternative forms of entertainment.
can some one tell me what is the point in shels moving to a new stadium of say 15,000 when they have the smallest fan base in dublin(ex dub city and UCD). they would only fill it for european games if the are lucky.Also i agree with brendy_eire.
I think they should go for it a good compact stadium would look good for the league and if there were 3 or 4 good stadiums it would attract more to games
The land across road is owned by Dublin CC but leased to Drumcondra FC (schoolboy section) who have just been granted 188,000 euros to build new club house.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face