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Players Partly Irish:
Wayne Rooney
Andy Cole
Darren Fletcher
Kieran Richardson
Kevin Nolan
And all the ones who already play for ireland (Holland, Morrison, Connolly etc.)
Ive seen a couple of threads about half irish players but none of them can play for us. Hopefully Kerr will call up Nolan. But I must think, do you want a player playing for ireland coz england didnt call him up.
What do ya reckon about Nolan ?
"Half-Irish" would surely imply just one Irish parent, no? Barry bloody Ferguson? :confused: (I'm assuming you mean the ex-Rangers captain that also captains Scotland when he's fit...) ANDY COLE??? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS N.O.C
Which by logical extension would in the majority of cases make them Irish, would it not? Do you mean English-born players? There is a crucial difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS N.O.C
You can read all about that here.Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS N.O.C
:ball: PP
That's Nolan out the window then. He doesn't support Ireland and we don't need another central midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS N.O.C
Most of the players mentioned apart from Fletcher have quite a distant Irish Heritage as far as I'm aware. 3rd Generation at best. A bit hopeful to think these players would consider themselves Irish. Rooney no doubt has Irish ancestry but is very English as his participation in Euro 2004 proves, as is the ex-Rangers Captain Ferguson very Scottish. As for Andy Cole you've lost me there. Since when is he Irish?
Nolan turned down Ireland underage teams in favour of England so we all know where his loyalties lie.
Andy Cole's granny is irish. Barry Ferguson, yeah i know, maybe 'half irish wasnt the best title, but ferguson does have irish connections. Kieran Richardson (Man Utd.) is half irish.
Ferguson is the only one that shouldnt really be there, but he was legible to play for Ireland.
we could do we with Nolan in the squad
Ferguson edited out, and worded ''I only want English players if the supported Ireland when they were growing up (there for play with alot more pride) or unless they are very good or we really need um. '' that differently :)
Wouldn't normally bother with threads like this, but I've often wondered what this lad's story is: http://www.playerhistory.com/soccerp...p?PLAYID=16378
If Richardson is half Irish then RMK will be on the case as he was with Fletcher(Irish Ma, I think) but he considered himself Scottish which is a pity but fair enough. Maybe I'm wrong but i was of the opinion that Wayne Rooney was 3rd or 4th generation at best(mute point now anyway).
Doubt any of these players supported Ireland as a boy.
Theres a team in Chile called O'Higgins, its named after an Irish (or half Irish) liberator of Latin America. There was another one in the Argentine Navy who beat the Brazilians in the last major naval war there. Also there was an entire legion of Irishmen who fought for Napoleon in La Grande Armee during the Russian campaigns (I'd guess that player would be the consequence of that perhaps).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
By my reckoning this should give us the right to claim Marcelo Salas, Walter Samuel, Javier Saviola (well it was an important battle for the Argentines), and Theirry Henry.
I'd prefer it if we had players who wanted to play for us, I dont care if their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Gen. or even if theyve aquired citizenship after living in Ireland for 4 years (tho I cant think of any at the moment who fulfill that). As an aside didnt Quederuerue (the French Middlesboro player try and play for us ?). If they pick us over other countries then its superb (like Aldo), but if they played for England or anyone at u-21 and then want to play for us its fine too. But what I dont like is with people like Nolan who are clearly not going to make it into the England squad, and have been sounded out over playing for us but have responded rather nonchalently (sp - giving the impression they couldnt care either way) I dont like that attitude. Im human tho and if he was a world class player (eg say Deco was Irish) then I'd make an exception for a snotty attitude. If they were arseholes we could always just play them once and screw their international careers.
Thats wat i was tryin to saybut i couldnt word it properly :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Nolan said that he wanted to play internationay whether it be for England, Ireland or Hong Kong
I notice Rooney attended.
OUR LADY AND ST SWITHIN’S
CATHOLIC PRIMARY SCHOOL
So he hasn't switched to the Church of England yet.