Trouble outside Stadiums

Just reading on-line and apparently there was trouble outside the Showgrounds on Friday. And a Shamrock Rovers bus was attacked in Derry.. in the comments it is suggested this is a frequent occurrence at these places.. one states that the bus company they use wont travel to Derry anymore and they have to use a different company!

I have not been in the Brandywell or the Showgrounds in a number of years now but i was really surprised to read this.

Can this thread not be a Sligo / Hoops slagging page please.. constructive comments please!!

what sort of contructive comments can we come up with in fairness. There are dicks intent on causing trouble everywhere and more trouble in Temple Bar on a Saturday night for the most part. Its a public order issue.

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Well for me, Derry City FC should ensure both home and away fans are safe in and outside the stadium. As should every club. Is it a particular problem in Derry?? Have Bohs had any problems in recent years??

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Originally Posted by EivissaPaul

Well for me, Derry City FC should ensure both home and away fans are safe in and outside the stadium. As should every club. Is it a particular problem in Derry?? Have Bohs had any problems in recent years??

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nothing of note Paul (apart from the trouble 6 of our fans caused obviously).

How does DCFC ensure safety on the way out of the city?

I couldn't get to the game at the Showgrounds on account of work. But I had to pass by it a few times during the course of the evening, before and after kick off as ppl were coming and going.

No trouble as far as I could see. And I've no heard no mention of there being any trouble at the ground around the town today.

Give these guys a call to complain:

http://www.psni.police.uk/g-district

Chief Superintendent Stephen Martin is the commander in charge of the District Command Unit that comprises Foyle, Limavady, Strabane and Magherafelt.

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Strand Road Police Station
81A Strand Road
Londonderry
BT48 7AA

Tel 0845 600 8000
E-mail: foyleDCU@psni.pnn.police.uk

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Originally Posted by EivissaPaul

in the comments it is suggested this is a frequent occurrence at these places..

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Or a frequent occurance where ever Shamrock are playing

well i am not sure if a police escort of the buses for a mile or so would help. I have never had any bad experiences going in and out of any grounds around the country..

And I dont really accept the whole 'frequent occurance where ever Shamrock are playing' thing.. there was close to 6000 in Tallaght last friday and it was a great atmosphere and from what i could see not a sign of trouble. I know there is an element of it at shamrock rover and no rovers fan will try and deny it. I Think every club has its problem supporters. Alot of the comments online are not Shamrock Rovers related. Sligo fans had stones thrown at them by a few drogs apparently.

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Originally Posted by dcfc_1928

Give these guys a call to complain...

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Not much use at the ground. Rovers fans called them outside the ground after the 1-1 draw in 2007 to report incidents and they would not respond to the area the ground was in.

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Originally Posted by EivissaPaul

Sligo fans had stones thrown at them by a few drogs apparently.

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Is this thread a p1ss take?

Elissa, first let me say Im not condoning buses being pelted with stones, but I will say this - you reap what you sowe. Some Shamrock Rovers have created an awful lot of trouble in both Sligo and Derry in recent years.

Think of it this way, the 2 teams supporters you have mentioned are Sligo Rovers and Derry City - both these teams played in the Brandywell only a few weeks ago. There was a huge crowd at the game and we brought 6 or 700 away fans to the game. All the fans were mixed in together and there wasnt one bit of trouble inside or outside the stadium. In fact, Derry City to their credit, actually came out later that week and thanked the Sligo Rovers fans for their patience and good behaviour on the night as their was a lot of delays due to the big crowd. Anyway my point is this - if these two sets of fans you have mentioned were troublemakers then we should have expected a lot of trouble that night. There wasnt.

Shamrock Rovers mainly have a lot of genuine fans but the few are blacking your name whether you like it or not.

Here's a constructive piece of advice. Don't go into any nationalist area in the North and start singing songs such as "your next queen is camilla parker bowles" & "what's it like to have a queen?".

There are plenty of locals who won't take kindly to that, and you'll just be asking for trouble.

It's nothing to do with football, it's just a fact of life in the north - and I'm not sure what any football club can do to change it.

At Derry we have very little bother inside or outside ground. The only exception seems to be Rovers and as the previous post says singing song about the Queen etc will not help. I dare say those that threw stones are not even Derry fans but ones that are too are aware that Rovers will "stir it up" singing songs about the queen etc. Im not making excuses as what happened is not right, but ask the question....Which club is connected and linked to the majority of any violence in the LOI? I think there is only one answer to that!

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Originally Posted by dcfc_1928

Here's a constructive piece of advice. Don't go into any nationalist area in the North and start singing songs such as "your next queen is camilla parker bowles" & "what's it like to have a queen?".

There are plenty of locals who won't take kindly to that, and you'll just be asking for trouble.

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So the game should be played somewhere else. It's no excuse. And all the above three posts are nothing more than "ha, they deserved it"

What about the team bus? What were they singing?

I love that if it had been Derry bus that had got hit coming from Rovers match there would be outrage.

If Rovers fans had done something one week and another set of fans did the exact same thing after there would be page after page condemning the evil rovers and hardly anything about the other club..

Everytime we play Shels in Tolka there is Bohs fans waiting around after the game trying to cause trouble with the Shels fans its never mentioned by anyone.

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Originally Posted by dfx-

So the game should be played somewhere else. It's no excuse. And all the above three posts are nothing more than "ha, they deserved it"

What about the team bus? What were they singing?

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Why? so the eejits that sing them songs can do so without anything being done. Rovers fans know who the ones that give them the bad name are so sort it out within and it will go a long way to stop incidents like this and the Rovers name llinked to them.
Is there a problem outside the Brandywell for all away fans or is it just when a large away following show up ? If its a reqular thing then what is the local police doing about it?

I don't accept singing songs as deserving an attack.

For the 2007 incident, Rovers fans called outside the ground, the police told them to go to the Strand Rd station and report it there, they would not come to the area. They are not doing anything about it. There is only one way out of the ground, it should not be difficult to stop. In 2009 and 0-1 win, supporters club bus turns left out of the car park, two windows on the left side smashed.

There may be nothing Derry City FC can do, but why should Rovers be expected to fulfill games there to be bricked time after time..

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Why? so the eejits that sing them songs can do so without anything being done. Rovers fans know who the ones that give them the bad name are so sort it out within and it will go a long way to stop incidents like this and the Rovers name llinked to them.
Is there a problem outside the Brandywell for all away fans or is it just when a large away following show up ? If its a reqular thing then what is the local police doing about it?

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No, its mainly when away "fans" come to the Brandywell and act the ****** outside the ground. There is very seldom any trouble inside the Brandywell, its only when Shamrock Rovers or Linfield come to town. Last night there was a Rovers fan ejected from the ground for he was that full he was eating the face of himself rather than the bag of chips in his hand

Then after that there was a Rovers fan chased out of the ground by stewards. Add in another muppett who thought it would be bright idea to start singing sectarian songs walking along the front of the stand before half time. This is all incidents that actually happened that I seen myself and not just made up incase any Rovers fan comes on and says "I never saw that!!"

If Rovers fans want to act the ******, then thats fair enough, but dont come on here or our forum and start whinging when your attacked outside the ground after your little sing-songs. IMO they should have been caged in like they were the last visit over in the showgrounds end