Seems Lizzy's on the way...

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29/12/2010, 1:17 PM
BonnieShels

Seems Lizzy's on the way...

Slow news day and all but the righteous indignation has kicked off over on politics.ie about this... thought it was worthy of our shores...

Quote:

A visit by Queen Elizabeth to the Republic is on the cards for next year
before the end of President Mary Acleese's term in office.

Irish Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin said that he still expected
developments on the visit by Queen Elizabeth II in 2011 but it would not
happen in the lifetime of the present Government.

[...]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-15041195.html

Smells like another FF rouse. I'd say since it became abundantly clear they weren't going to be in power they have been pushing it to get going so that Inda will have to welcome her. FF can then use their righteous indignation card.

Personally I think its a bad idea right now and should be immediately dropped as a plan as soon as the new lads are in.
29/12/2010, 1:30 PM
osarusan

I don't have any problem whatsoever with it, although I wouldn't have any interest in actually going to see/catch a glimpse of her.

What I would have an objection to is the Irish government forking out millions on security and 'pomp' after all the austerity measures. And I'd be afraid that the Irish govt would (mistakenly, in my opinion) think that a lavish reception for the Queen would be a way of gaining respect for Ireland in the UK and beyond.
29/12/2010, 1:39 PM
BonnieShels

That's precisely my reason for saying its a bad idea.
In time maybe. Just not 2011. And all the more reason so its not McAleese welcoming her.
29/12/2010, 3:07 PM
shantykelly

even as a nordie, i can honestly say i dont care. there are a lot more important things to be dealing with at the minute than an unnecessary visit from an anachronistic head of state.
30/12/2010, 12:45 AM
Aberdonian Stu

Is this news? The impending Lizzy visit has been known about for over a year.
30/12/2010, 5:39 AM
BonnieShels

The impending visit is now a confirmed visit and this is why it would be newsworthy now.
30/12/2010, 3:05 PM
ArdeeBhoy

Newsworthy only in the amount tedious fawning it could generate.

And her 'ficial' nickname is 'Brenda', not Lizzy! :eek:

Maybe a banner with " Cead Mille Failte , Frau Saxe-Coburg Gotha"?
Ironically the auntie got a card from yer woman yesterday!!!
30/12/2010, 6:55 PM
dantheman

She should be invited. And ignored. As low key possible.

I'm sure the Sunday Independent will have a 64-page pullout!
31/12/2010, 7:26 AM
bennocelt

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

That's precisely my reason for saying its a bad idea.
In time maybe. Just not 2011. And all the more reason so its not McAleese welcoming her.

Exactly, that one is a joke. God I miss the days of Paddy Hillary, who you would barely see all year.
As for the visit I wouldn't be too hot on it
31/12/2010, 3:30 PM
SkStu

i think it is nice to see first Robinson and then McAleese trying to maximise the scope and effectiveness of probably the most useless and powerless title in Irish politics. I despise Hillary for treating it like a nice little retirement deal.
05/01/2011, 7:12 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by SkStu

i think it is nice to see McAleese trying to maximise the scope and effectiveness of probably the most useless and powerless title in Irish politics.

The print of her arse in the government jet, the munster final fiasco, comparing her upbringing as a poor downtrodden subsidised northern catholic with that of a jew in nazi germany, talking down to people about austerity.

She is utterly, utterly, dislikable.

And don't even get me started on the other one.
05/01/2011, 7:19 PM
SkStu

i didnt say she was likeable. I said she utilised a formal position to its maximum, something to be admired as practically every other President, prior to Robinson (who did an excellent job of maximising the role of the President), had used it as little more than a retirement home providing cheap flights, good photo ops and a free pen.
05/01/2011, 7:30 PM
Lim till i die

What's admirable about it?? What effectiveness?? Where??
05/01/2011, 8:29 PM
SkStu

ill let you figure out what is more admirable or effective about utilising the scope of the Presidential role to its maximum vs sitting in Aras an Uachtarain signing papers and taking cushty trips to other countries for nothing until the term is up.

So first, its you just dont like McAleese and now its that you dont like McAleese and also dont like any President doing anything remotely worthwhile.
06/01/2011, 3:09 AM
The Fly

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

The print of her arse in the government jet, the munster final fiasco, comparing her upbringing as a poor downtrodden subsidised northern catholic with that of a jew in nazi germany, talking down to people about austerity.

She is utterly, utterly, dislikable.

Are you a Free Presbyterian?
06/01/2011, 9:55 AM
Gather round

As a child, she was known to family and school friends as Lilibet. The Brenda & Keith thing, iirc, came originally as a code used by their security handlers, before being picked up by Private Eye.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

And I'd be afraid that the Irish govt would (mistakenly, in my opinion) think that a lavish reception for the Queen would be a way of gaining respect for Ireland in the UK and beyond

Agreed. The Worldwide sleb-obsessed tabloids would cover it just like any other foreign jaunt. It might as well be Doha or Dar es Salaam as Dublin.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

i think it is nice to see first Robinson and then McAleese trying to maximise the scope and effectiveness of probably the most useless and powerless title in Irish politics. I despise Hillary for treating it like a nice little retirement deal

Harsh on Paddy Hillery, he was just carrying out the 'job' description that had worked well enough for 30 years beforehand. Mary-Mary did try to use it for political lobbying, but what has McAleese done bar open supermarkets, welcome dignitaries and occasionally play golf with her dodgy UDA chums? I'll ignore the Nazi thing, we'll just put it down to a bad hair day.

Nothing wrong with having a president, but I don't see the role as useful as a Senate, and apparently you're about to abolish that. Why not just elect some random punter annually through a TV talent show? As long it's not Dana Scallon, obviously. Busaras an Uachtarain would make a nice conference centre when the economy recovers.
06/01/2011, 12:43 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkStu

ill let you figure out what is more admirable or effective about utilising the scope of the Presidential role to its maximum

Utilising it as in taking all the free trips on the jet or what?? I don't understand her use

Quote:

So first, its you just dont like McAleese and now its that you dont like McAleese and also dont like any President doing anything remotely worthwhile

Again what's she doing that's worthwhile??

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Originally Posted by The Fly

Are you a Free Presbyterian?

No.
06/01/2011, 2:06 PM
The Fly

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

No.

Just Presbyterian then? ;)
06/01/2011, 2:24 PM
Lim till i die

I'm an Unfree Rastafarian dat been in Babylon too long an dat jah seen
06/01/2011, 7:27 PM
BonnieShels

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gather round

Busaras an Uachtarain would make a nice conference centre when the economy recovers.

Firstly no buses are allowed in the Park.
Secondly there's fadas in Irish and thirdly surely you'd rather a return of the building to it's original use?

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