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First time a water cannon has ever been used in the republic, saw the ood Palestinian flag. There were a fair few Celtic shirts on the front line which could bring some much unwanted publicity and will no doubt soon be appearing in the Ibrox fanzines showing the "thugs".
some said the garda did a very good job, some said the looked like the old RUC :eek:
Looked like your kidn of scene Brendy-any of your mates make the trip down?
plenty of cans of dutch gold in evidence on the tv coverage
Morning hooligans.
Any time you need to borrow the water cannon again, just phone +44 28 9065 0222 and ask for Hugh.
No doubt the usual suspects will be in soon blaming it on Combat 18/ UVF/ BNP/ Linfield and Rangers fans on a day trip :)
Couldn't you see the union Jacks and England shirts there? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan Gardner
Some people jsut don't look;)
Hippie Pinko Scum got what they deserved. Peaceful protest my arse.
Attacked un-armed, un-protected Gadaí (they didnt even have battons). Thats real brave. They were not so tough when the Gardaí wearing Riot gear came to protect their collegues.
I thought people were coming along for a free wash at first. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by liam88
Makes a change if they're not involved! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan Gardner
Didn't look like a "riot" in the coverage I saw, it looked like half a dozen tossers making a nuisance of themselves. Tossers that the Gardaí seemed unable to hit with their new toy, instead they were targetting people 10-15 feet away with their hands in their pockets.
Plenty of Celtic jerseys on display there I notice liam88. You must be right proud.
adam
Presumably if there were only half a dozen tossers, then most of the throng of Celtic fans were behaving well?
As you would expect.
I saw only one guy with a Celtic shirt on Sky but it was looped again and again and again.
According to indymedia.ie the riot police just opened up the water canons and batton charged for no reason. Independent media my arse! Little mention of stuff being thrown at them first or any injuries they recieved. I think that the Gardai did a great job yesterday as I think that there was a real danger of things getting out of hand, maybe not exactly like Verona (or was it Genoa) or Seattile, but an actual riot could have occured. I think that they did well to keep it to just a few scumbags and anti-capitalists with on lookers
Unless you had different TV coverage from what was shown in Britain, I counted just ONE person with a Celtic shirt enjoying his drenching shower. Hardly 'Plenty' is it? Still, I'm a believer in never stopping my prejudices getting in the way of the truth! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
Spot on with all of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SÓC
By all accounts, the Gardai did a very good job.
As Adam said though, from the coverage I saw it wasn't a riot just a few hippies and knackers throwing stuff at the Gardai for no reason.
Hmmm. "hippie pinko scum"..McDowells little sturm troopers are out and about already...
From the evidence of those present, live TV coverage, and even the Tony O'Reilly media, there were 2 bricks and 2 bottles thrown. There were maybe 200 people marched as far as the roughly 2,000 Gardai present. The main protest stayed a few hundred yards away from the Garda line. This would be the Garda line stopping people from walking a supposedly public road 4 miles away from Farmleigh House.
The protest was against globalisation, which is a protest against the evergrowing power of executives in large companies to decide how countries are run, and therefore how your life is run. I am not a hippy, a "pinko" (whatever that actually is) or a scumbag. I am very concerned that ruthless, unaccountable and utterly corrupt business men, whose only interest is their obscene pay, benefits and the bottom line have governments all over the world dancing to their beck and call.
Of course, FFers and PD clones everywhere will scream abuse and opprobrium at those people who excercised their democratic rights yesterday, all the while bellowing on about how they are the true democrats. These would be the same democrats who insult, disparage and complain when somebody expresses an opinion not authoised by their own central command.
There were undoubtedly idiots, scumbags and troublemakers about yesterday, but I'm sure there were one or two decent Gardai present as well.
Well said. I heard the Garda commissioner's (I think) comments afterwards, and it was like something the police chief of some banana republic would come out with. Although on second thoughts, that "like" is redundant.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
These people's instinctual right-wing buttons are so easy to push, it's a wonder McDowells and Harneys didn't emerge decades ago.
I know a few, aye. Caught in 2 minds over the EU meself, but have nothing against those who don't like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
Sickening to see the garda use their borrowed RUC water cannon against what was overall a peaceful protest. Knew it would happen though. Sending out officers in riot gear, backed up a water cannon, it was going to happen. The garda provoked the crowd, a few broke. RUC do it all the time.
The water cannon was borrowed with the full intention of using it regardless of whether or not it was necessary. Pats on the back all round with Bertie & Co, I'm sure. Scum.
(....at least they didn't dye the water, like the RUC used to do)
thought they prefer PSNI now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Not particually. Just like if there were people in Ireland shirts involved with an incident like that you wouldn't necessarely be :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
I think it was a bit hyped up with the news coverage and I couldn't really saay whether the Gardai were heavy handed or not because I saw a couple of officers get hurt. You can never really tell with the news.
Interesting to see which way round the protesters two fingers were, suggesting they were genuinley peaceful and not yobs but like always, a few yobs in a crowd that big can start a vibe :(
Think you'd have to be there to get the full picture though.
One lad came into school the night after the anti-war riots in london with black eyes claiming beating by the police. The dissapearence of them two days later smacked of shoe polish but none of us can be quite sure.
Same thing, different uniform, Liam.Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
Patsh, Im calling those who attacked unarmed Gardaí, Hippie Pinko Scum and I stand by that. 200 people tried to illegally force their way down a public road that was closed for security reasons. They knew well what they were trying to do.
Im all for people peacefully protesting if they feel they have to. I'll support their right to do so til Im blue in the face. But when they resort to violence they deserve what they get.
As for being McDowells little sturm troopers:rolleyes:
*edit*
For Pinko- read Irish "Socialists". I think Labour might even still be calling themselves socialists.
What "security" reasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by SÓC
The Ashtown roundabout is 3 - 4 miles away from Farmleigh.There is no security issue there.
If a group of people "attack" such a large group of Gardai, arrest them, charge them and punish them. There were more than enough officers there to do that.
Why use a water cannon?
The answer is simple. This is fast becoming a totalitarian state, and your party and their partners are eagerly aping some of the methods of those "socialist" state you all profess to hate soo much.
We have our very own politburo, no dissent is allowed, no opposing opinions is countenanced, it's members can use public money to do whatever they feel like, anybody who complains is abused and ridiculed, and all the little party clones must be "on message", i.e. do and say excatly what they are told by the central propoganda office.
Surely you can do better than simply parroting the words of your leaders?Quote:
For Pinko- read Irish "Socialists". I think Labour might even still be calling themselves socialists.
Do any of you actually know the meaning of the word?
Here are a few completely accurate descriptions of some of your party ilk.
Arrogant, incompetent, racist, intolerant, corrupt, criminal..the list goes on.
All a hell of a lot worse than describing someone as being in favour of living in a society as opposed to an economy.
anyone see the footage of the guy trying to say the gardai did a great job, getting throttled by someone telling him to shut up saying "dont bleedin praise them you @?;'#/"
all in full view of a senior garda who just watched it happen.
Yeah I saw that. However, your man was clearly trying to provoke the protesters, he borrowed their megaphone and then announced that he'd like to acknowledge the great job being done by the Gardai. He then got smacked and nearly choked by a protester.Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Also, did anyone see Brendan O'Connor (of Sunday indo and Don't feed Gondolas fame) singlehandedly trying to block a march. He was mocking everything the protesters were trying to say. It was quite funny to watch but a stupid thing for him to do.