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The FAI in their wisdom have objected to the appointment of Darius Kierans as first team manager for the Drogs. Objection is based on grounds that Darius has not obtained an A licience even though he is in the process of doing so and will have it completed by October.
The Club backed by its supporters are fully behind the appointment of Darius Kierans as manager and are adamant he remains in the position.
so they've objected. That doesnt tell ye much. What are they looking for? Him to step down?
if everyone could please open their participation agreements on page...
Drogs should tell the FAI to go and fudge themselves. Kierans has worked his way up through the ranks and deserves his go tbh.
What is the source for this?
Press Release on behalf of Drogheda United Independent Supporters ClubQuote:
Originally Posted by dong
Date: 10th June 2010
Last week Drogheda United FC appointed Darius Kierans as first team manager for the remainder of the 2010 Airtricity League season. This appointment was welcomed almost unilaterally and by all accounts upon recent evidence on the field it would appear to have been the right decision for the club at the right time.
Supporters and towns-people in particular were delighted with the job going to a not only a local candidate but a well deserving candidate. Kierans has brought victory to the club across the youth set up for the past number of years and has been completing his coaching badges along the way and in fact Kierans is currently close to completing the lengthy process of achieving his UEFA ‘A’ License and will be fully qualified in October.
The FAI are objecting to the appointment on the basis that he does not hold this UEFA 'A' License - deemed necessary to manage a senior football side in the Airtricity League. This is despite the fact that there are cases both at home and abroad where similar situations arose setting an indisputable precedent which should now allow managers to take up their positions while completing their license. It is hugely disappointing that DUFC is faced with this situation at a time when the club is attempting to turn the corner and when clubs and in turn supporters like ourselves need common sense leadership.
This is something which Darius Kierans certainly has and it has certainly come to the fore recently in trying circumstances for Drogheda United. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Kierans must be let continue with the task he was given:
· Kierans performance in the job so far has been exemplary being undefeated in the league
· The first team squad, both young and those more mature, have given Darius their full backing
· Precedent was set in 2009 with Ian Foster while at Galway United
· There is a precedent for this in the UK with several managers not fulfilling criteria outright who were, however, allowed to continue in the role while being given a grace period in which studies were to be completed
· Kierans has brought unsurpassed success to the club across the youth set up for the past number of years
· There are now 6 players in the first team squad who developed under Darius in the youths therefore it makes sense that the next logical step is to bring the coach forward to continue the development of those players and to ensure that more young local players will be given their chance at the top level of football in Ireland
· An extremely popular choice amongst supporters of Drogheda United
The FAI slogan for the league is “Real Football, Real Fans”. DUISC,as real fans, wholeheartedly stand behind Darius and Drogheda United FC and shall not be moved.
Press release ends.
I don't see the difficulty in this, why shouldn't he be left as "caretaker" until he completes his licence. One thing is that he's probably not costing the club a whole lot, unless there's some agenda behind the whole thing from the FAI.
Funny how clubs want the FAI to be untra strict in enforcing their rules until it affects their club. Press release is pathetic too "precedent in the UK"? So what?
You've hit the nail on the head there Dodge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Imagine this scenario:
Dundalk and Drogheda are fighting relegation. Dundalk appoint a new manager in the same manner Kierans has been appointed. Dundalk stay up, Drogheda go down.
What would the press release be then?
Pathetic is right.
Also, so many other irrelevant bits like what success he has had at youth level. What has that got to do with the issue at hand?
"We shall not be moved" at the end is cringeworthy.
Is it not significant that the statement is released by a Supporters Club, rather than Drogheda Football Club.
Presumably, the FC cannot be sanctioned by the FAI for a statement issued by a SC ??
btw - Let him stay, he deserves it!
As far as I know, nobody without the right licence can act as more than a caretaker manager, which has a limit of 12 weeks.
However, it's not beyond the FAI to take a stance directly contradicting a previous stance. What was the precedent set with Foster?
Yeah, that caught my eye too. Coaching standards in the UK are - as far as I'm aware - lower than in the rest of Europe (or Western Europe anyway), so it's hardly a standard to hold up. The highest standard (most amount of UEFA A holders) is in Spain, with obvious results in recent years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Considering Dundalk were top of the league until last Tuesday night I think they may have other things on their mind rather than worrying about relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Emlyn Long is Salthill Devon's manager in evertything but name. He is listed as head coach because he doesn't have the required badges, so he can't be named as manager - that honour falls to Mike Quirke, who does have the necessary badges. Surely Drogheda could find a similar way around this?
Seems to be an awful lot of knicker twisting going on over this. And we still haven't seen a source on the story either
There's a very small pool of managers in the country with the right qualifications, given how expensive the courses are. It limits clubs options, and pushes up the price of managers.
Personally I think being on the course should be enough, as they have made the commitment and paid the fees.
Damned if they do....... look, the rules are there they have not changed and it is up to all clubs to abide by them. full stop. not the rules they like, not the rules that suit, all rules. Many of us here have been critical of the FAI for haphazard application of the rules so here I would agree with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
No problem with Darius and wish him all the best but it must be in accordance with the rules (there are ways to get around this without breaking/ignoring the rule).
Drogheda so have a point in that precedent s have been set and this guy is obviously well on his way to meeting the qualification.
However, that statement does not read well at all, the second sentence in particular is hilarious.
Nothing pathetic about it , who says clubs want to be ultra strict ? clubs want the fai to act in a fair way towards clubs and use common sense . How was foster allowed to manage galway with the same qualifications as darius ? How is foster being allowed to manage in europe without the proper qualifications ? The supporters club released a statement because it wants answers , i would have expected more from the likes of you . Its your post thats pathetic tbh .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by gspain
I think he was using it as a hypothetical situation