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I won't be commenting personally in here any more.
In future, if I issue an instruction to someone in-thread, it's as a moderator and it's to be either taken on board or challenged in the Support forum. Challenges in-thread will receive infractions, suspensions or bans.
Not sure if this is what you want to hear, but I'm interested in a lot of what you have to say about the issues in Current Affairs. Couldn't you just differentiate between your personal opinions and moderating comments by saying "mod speak" before the latter? That way you could continue to do both things (if you're interested in personal posts, that is)
We've had this discussion before with other moderators, and I don't think being a moderator should mean you can't comment just as a normal poster also.
You do seem to be a fairly interested and opinionated poster in this section. As an alternative to osarusan's suggestion, if you feel you can't post and moderate even-handedly at the same time, you could choose not to personally moderate this section - reporting posts like a normal member if you feel someone's stepped out of line.
I unsubbed from the Politics forum on Boards.ie ages ago, I just didn't get around to doing it here until now. I appreciate your comments but moderation is more important than my input, and the trolling and exteme views are getting worse and obviously need moderation. I just want to make the separation crystal clear.
That's a shame, you genuinely seem to have an interest in a lot of the issues raised in here and are able to back your arguments up
I'd agree with what Osarun said there (you might be surprised to hear). I don't post a lot but I dip in and read from time to time and I agree with some of your recent contributions. Not that that's important in the great scheme of things, the more important thing is that personally I feel that the worst type of censorship is self censorship. If you've got something to say, say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
I may not post in here that often but I do enjoy reading it, I think you should be able to say something if you want to.
Basically I'm taking over as mod in this forum as I don't like the direction it's taken, and since the moderation that's required here needs to be strict, I'm not going to leave myself open to accusations of bias resulting from philosophical disagreements.
I always wanted the Foot.ie CA forums to be moderate in nature, an alternative to the other forums where you have to be right-wing or left-wing, and ne'er the twain shall meet. To me, that's what's wrong with politics.
I'd like to try and guide CA back to what I was hoping for it, and perhaps join in again then.
adam
can i just pose the question...why is foot.ie so serious? why is moderation so important?
Moderation is important in moderation. Now, i may have had 6 cans of Dutch. But, without moderators eg. SLigoman, sligoman and sligoman.The world would explode. You'd be allowed opinion after opinion free to air! Animals would begin to talk (they may soon) and UCD would win the league. Harps would be in Europe every year and Joey Maloney would be Rovers captain
LONG LIVE MODERATION!! eg. Sligoman
Remember Johnny Ward's football site, that ultimately caved in on itself? That's what Foot.ie was meant not to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/youtube.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
The internet, unmoderated.
A far better answer than mine!
I also post on unmoderated forums (although every forum bar /B/ is moderated to some extent) and if you want any level of actual debate then it's vital.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
Otherwise every thread ends up with loads of laughing smileys and random insults
On the other hand, /B/ is the greatest forum in history.
If you're a maybe paedophile then yes I'd have to agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Harsh. I think you'll find that all forms of depravity feature on there. :)
I'm on a few forums and there's definitely a balancing act, but on one of them recently had a knob ruining it, because of the absence of propper moderation, and it was the vigilantes that were nearly worse than the original offender.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
I think the balance is generally ok here, some mods are more pinickity than others (one or two overly so, and not even on their "own" forum), but people who fall foul are usually persistent offenders that most are happy to see the back of.
The key to good moderation is "less is more". People are always going to offend others and as long as that offence isn't inciting hatred or outright bullying then you're entitled to offend imo. Moderators should be there for when their really really needed, not to shape discussion in the way they'd like.
As a moderator of 10 years experience, with a 5000 member forum, I respectfully disagree. You can have too much moderation, and too little moderation. The correct amount of moderation is exactly in the middle, with slides to either side when necessary. As in politics, and nearly every other walk of life.