http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...341206,00.html
Not an LOI story, obviously, but does anyone think this should be introduced here?
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...341206,00.html
Not an LOI story, obviously, but does anyone think this should be introduced here?
For the clubs' own sake.. yes, bring it in and bring it in now.
not to sure but would that not be punishing players for clubs mismanagement
Abolutely yes - as long as some clubs continue to trade recklessly and attempt to buy the league title without the necessary resources, competing clubs who are more prudent (realistic) continue to be unfairly disadvantaged.
But the priority should be to properly enforce the existing regulations
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Originally Posted by passerrby
How would it punish a player, if the club can't pay it's taxes they won't be able to pay the players wages, surely it's in the player's interest to know the club he is signing for can pay it's bills on time???
I assume it would only stop a club buying and not selling..
I suggested something similar on the original Cork in trouble thread (as in, the original one from this year).Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
Late with one P30 (monthly tax return) - warning. Late with a second one - punishment, be that a fine or an embargo. Late with any more, points deduction. Clubs seem to use late payment of tax as a cash flow far too often; have to address that problem.
it does not necessary follow that if a club does not pay its tax it is not paying a players wages but i take you pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
Thats the way to go and the sooner it is done the better. Although i would and in another month there though. If you have a summer break and you have crap fixtures in the months on either side of the break then a club could be fairly snookered and they might not be able to avoid it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
They provide monthly budgets, they know when the fixtures occur. Plan accordinglyQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Common sense stuff so I wouldn`t hold my breath.
Exactly. Far too much made of the summer break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If you add in another month before giving out to them, they can be late with three payments out of eight and maybe not get any punishment other than a fine.
For the record the break is a stupid idea. It is ridiculous that clubs could go 3/4 weeks without a gate.
But that doesn't mean they shouldn't pay their taxes
I think it's ****ing insane that people think it's reasonable that clubs are unable to go 3 weeks without a gate - gates being a small portion of most clubs' budgets - without running into cashflow problems. They teach this stuff to 12 year olds in school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Not to mention that there's usually a midweek series of games straight after to help counter the problem.
I take it you meant that gates are a large portion of most clubs' budgets?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Depends on the club. For some clubs, it might be half. For many, it's much less.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
20 * 1,000 * €10 = €200,000
20 is from 18 home league games, couple of cup.
1000 is a typical crowd.
€10 is entry, allowing for kids and concessions.
Few clubs would have budgets much shy of €500,000. Lots have gates well under 1000.
Even in the extreme case of, say, Cork:
25 * 3,000 * €15 = €1,125,000.
That figure is optimistic, and is still, what, half their annual budget? Certainly a lot less in the past.
Fundraising is probably the single most important aspect of running a club here.
It's not punishing players - it's actually giving them greater protection if they can be sure their tax has been paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby