"Them Derry Wans" not paying their Dues?

(Pls move if this is the wrong section, btw)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...sh/7893243.stm
Dungannon chase McGinn deal cash

Dungannon Swifts say they will take legal action to force Derry City to inform them of the transfer fee that the Candystripes got for Niall McGinn.

The Swifts say they are entitled to 20% of the cash that Derry received from Celtic for the Northern Ireland player.

However, Dungannon chairman Jarlath Faloon insists that Derry have so far refused to divulge the fee or forward any cash from the December transfer.

"We have issued a writ today to the High Court in Belfast," said Faloon.

Dungannon are chasing their slice of the transfer fee because McGinn played for the Swifts before moving to the Brandywell.

"We have also reported Derry to the Irish FA and Football Association of Ireland," Faloon told BBC Sport Interactive.

"We have written to Derry City and told them repeatedly since December, asking for details of the deal between themselves and Celtic and secondly, their proposals to pay us.

"We haven't received any answers to our phone calls or any replies whatsoever to numerous correspondence.

"I am talking about maybe five letters, asking what the terms of the deal were.

"We have a written agreement with them (that we are entitled to the 20% of the transfer fee)."

Faloon said that Dungannon had issued "a writ for a declaration that they tell us what the deal was".

The Swifts chairman added that he had informed Derry City on Friday that legal proceedings would be issued if there was no contact from the Candystripes over the weekend.

Celtic signed McGinn for an undisclosed fee in mid-December although there was speculation that the sum was in the region of £200,000.

Whatever the fee was, Faloon insists that the Swifts should have received their money "right away".

"Ryan McIlmoyle was transferred from us to Limavady and there was a 20% sell-on clause to Institute.

"That was all done within two days. We gave the money to Limavady and they immediately paid Institute. That's the way it's done in the Irish League."

They have offered €30k for Jay O'Shea also from what im told so if they can't stump up for the McGinn deal then, where does the €30k come from?

Isn't owing transfer monies a breach of licensing? Not that a trifle like that actual matters.

have Fifa not changed not rules where derry owe nothing, its celtic that have to pay companisation,unless cetic infomed derry that the fee they got included money owed to other clubs.

I'm sure we wouldn't be at that kind of thing, eh Stu? :)

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

They have offered €30k for Jay O'Shea also from what im told so if they can't stump up for the McGinn deal then, where does the €30k come from?

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Who said we cant stump it up? It seems we are dragging our heels on these deals

We already got our licence so feck em, they can wait like we make all our feeder clubs wait.

FFS until Kenny got hold of him McGinn couldn't even get on the Dungannon cup final squad months before we signed him.

We just gave them Callaghan. Sounds fair to me.

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Originally Posted by Trainee

have Fifa not changed not rules where derry owe nothing, its celtic that have to pay companisation,unless cetic infomed derry that the fee they got included money owed to other clubs.

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Possible, I suppose, but in that case, why don't Derry simply point that out in a letter to the Swifts?

Besides, you'd expect Swifts to be up-to-speed on the regulations following the recent McIlmoyle transfer. In which case, they'd be chasing Celtic, not DCFC?

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Originally Posted by Trainee

have Fifa not changed not rules where derry owe nothing, its celtic that have to pay companisation,unless cetic infomed derry that the fee they got included money owed to other clubs.

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You are correct. It's the responsibility of the buying club (Celtic) to distribute the transfer fee appropriately.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...d=29&Itemid=44

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The responsibility to calculate the payment rests with the New Club at all times, irrespective of whether it is training compensation or solidarity payment

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Right, that's Celtic out of the SPL on licensing grounds then.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Right, that's Celtic out of the SPL on licensing grounds then.

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Cue row between Harps and Shels fans over who will be replacing them.

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

We already got our licence so feck em, they can wait like we make all our feeder clubs wait.

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And should Celtic adopt the same attitude to their "feeder club"(!) over the transfers of McGinn and McCourt, no doubt you'll take the same "understanding" attitude...;)

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Cue row between Harps and Shels fans over who will be replacing them.

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Its obviously us, no argument.
only thing is will the airline company be happy when only pay 12% (when coming out of examinership) of the huge bill we run up when travelling to Scotland every second week?

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

You are correct. It's the responsibility of the buying club (Celtic) to distribute the transfer fee appropriately.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...d=29&Itemid=44

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Surely those Regulations you cite relate to "Training Compensation" i.e. for players whose youth means the normal contractual terms for a Transfer don't apply?

With McGinn, we're talking about a sell-on clause relating to a move where a where a transfer fee applies, not a compensation fee.

Disgracefull if true, especially after how they messed around UCD last season after Salmon went to Kilmarnock.

:mad:

bhs

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

only thing is will the airline company be happy when only pay 12% (when coming out of examinership) of the huge bill we run up when travelling to Scotland every second week?

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You can be like these guys:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...cut-costs.html

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

Disgracefull if true, especially after how they messed around UCD last season after Salmon went to Kilmarnock.

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Not sure what the whole affair has to do with marine wildlife to be honest.

Blah blah blah.

Like always, if it is up to Derry to pay the "undisclosed fee" like always we will wait until the last possible minute to pay. :)

BTW EG, there may be news soon that Celtic could be a feeder club for us.If it's true the McGinn transfer had more than money involved which could be the reason D Swifts havn't recieved any money yet.

It's not as straight forward as the UCD Sammon deal were we paid up within a year. ;)

Given our prediliction for accepting friendlies against Sellthick in lieu of cash, I'm not sure Dungannon will get very far as the value will only be fixed after the matches take place and gate receipts have been totted up etc.

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Blah blah blah.

Like always, if it is up to Derry to pay the "undisclosed fee" like always we will wait until the last possible minute to pay. :)

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To be honest, I'm very disappointed with the club.

We are rapidly gaining a reputation for not paying our dues with respect to transfers. This is the one with the highest profile but you will be aware of at least two others in the last year with respect to DCFC.

And yet we are lashing out money on new players:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Maribor

To be honest, I'm very disappointed with the club.

We are rapidly gaining a reputation for not paying our dues with respect to transfers. This is the one with the highest profile but you will be aware of at least two others in the last year with respect to DCFC.

And yet we are lashing out money on new players:rolleyes:

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It is mind blowing TBF! :confused: