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passerrby
25/08/2008, 5:37 PM
Whatever the FAI decide to do, one would like to think that the sanction would be the exact same for Cork Coty as it would be had Monaghan United, Kildare County or anyother club broken the rules.

I too would love to think so but dont expect it to be the same

OneRedArmy
25/08/2008, 5:47 PM
I started this thread so that i could have an answer for my mother who asked me that qs last night while we were watching the Pats Sligo game.However after 3 pages of this thread im still confused and still dont have a concrete answer,maybe because there isnt any:eek:.Its ok though,thanks lads for the input.Its fairly simple.
1) What Cork have done to date is not necessarily a breach of licensing; and
2) even if it was, a points deduction isn't mandatory.

Martinho II
25/08/2008, 9:12 PM
tbh lads wexford youths beating cork city in the league cup final tonight is sufficient punishement as cork miss out on a great gate at home plus setanta tv rights..:eek::

I would leave them alone...:rolleyes:

Dodge
25/08/2008, 9:39 PM
Its fairly simple.
1) What Cork have done to date is not necessarily a breach of licensing; and
2) even if it was, a points deduction isn't mandatory.

Going into examinership is a breach of licensing.

Candystripe
26/08/2008, 3:15 AM
tbh lads wexford youths beating cork city in the league cup final tonight is sufficient punishement as cork miss out on a great gate at home plus setanta tv rights..:eek::



Do you not mean they missed out on a 50/50 chance of a home gate in the final :confused: After all the toss of a coin IS a 50/50 chance!

Dodge
26/08/2008, 7:24 AM
Do you not mean they missed out on a 50/50 chance of a home gate in the final :confused: After all the toss of a coin IS a 50/50 chance!

Tey money is split anyway. Whether at Brandywell or Turners Cross, a great crowd was to be expected

charliesboots
26/08/2008, 11:56 AM
He had nothing to do with the club when we were punished. It was clear to everyone in the FAI that Ollie was a very sick man at the time and would no longer play a part in the future of the club.

Still didn't change their decision.



What decision? What punishment?

Shels were refused a Premier Division license and awarded a first division license (with conditions) by the licensing committe.

Sorry for going off-topic but Shels were very lucky to get any license at all.

derm
26/08/2008, 2:34 PM
City were not in breach of the 65% rule or any other licensing issue. The agreement signed by Arkaga ensured compliance as far as the FAI were concerned.

However, now that Arkaga have reneged on that agreement it seems the club is in breach because of going into examinership. It is also likely that we will be in breach of the 65% rule unless investors come in who will take on the debt and buy-out Arkaga's agreement with the FAI.

Whatever happens, Arkaga have shown up the FAI's wage cap scheme as literally not worth the paper it's written on. It has exposed the club to sanctions rather than investigating ways to cut costs and remain in compliance with the license. It has lied repeatedly to the fans and those running Cork City FC (a mere subsidiary of Arkaga).

Whatever sactions the club get I hope that the FAI bans Arkaga or any of its subsidiaries from ever again being involved with a club in this country.:mad:

pineapple stu
26/08/2008, 4:51 PM
I'd say the most likely outcome of all this is that Cork will have breached the 65% rule at the end of the season and be punished with whatever the FAI feel like at the time.
I'd say they'll be docked (however many points will get them relegated) - 1.


Here's that paragraph again;

• The FAI Club Licensing Committee has the power to withdraw any licence or apply any sanction during a season if the Licensee:
What's the punishment for getting your licence withdrawn? In previous years, it was a range of sanctions which may include relegation, but didn't have to. Another loop hole.

GUISAUltra
26/08/2008, 5:17 PM
i was just on the cork city supporters forum and they are saying that they are gone

http://www.ccfcforum.com/forum/Club-t27049.html#entry501863

passerrby
26/08/2008, 5:52 PM
I would suspect that reports of there demise are greatly exagerated...so come on boys less of the riddling

higgins
26/08/2008, 7:07 PM
What decision? What punishment?

Shels were refused a Premier Division license and awarded a first division license (with conditions) by the licensing committe.


Once the conditions were met there was very little in the way to stop us playing in the premier. Of course we had a rubbish team but that wasn't the point.

I agree with Stu.
The FAI will play the waiting game (as they always do) then make up the punishment to leave Cork outside europe and above the bottom 3.

They always work backwards.

higgins
26/08/2008, 7:34 PM
City were not in breach of the 65% rule or any other licensing issue. The agreement signed by Arkaga ensured compliance as far as the FAI were concerned.

All clubs sign the same agreement !
That has nothing to do with the 65%

Monthly accounts should have shown you were well behind the 65%

SÓC
26/08/2008, 8:29 PM
We deserve to be punished no doubt and IMO a fair punishment would be automatic relegation (from what I understand reports to the FAI have been on occasion total fiction) but like a poster said above the FAI will make up some magic figure that makes everyone "happy". Also the FAI cant stir things up too much here either...lets just say they wont want ALL the dirty linen washed in public ;)

razor
29/08/2008, 7:44 AM
10 points, and we'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for this pesky thread. :mad: :D:D

SeanDrog
29/08/2008, 7:47 AM
10 points, and we'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for this pesky thread.

:D

10 points deducted and still above Drogs - oh what a season we are having :mad:

Dodge
29/08/2008, 8:43 AM
10 points, and we'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for this pesky thread. :mad: :D:D

HE hee he

Celdrog
29/08/2008, 12:00 PM
:D
10 points deducted and still above Drogs - oh what a season we are having :mad:But we've a game in hand :D

higgins
30/08/2008, 2:01 PM
I think we can expect more points deductions to follow ?
10 points is just for entering the examinership process. If Cork are found to be have broken any rules with regards to players wages or licence documents they will face further deductions.

eamo1
30/08/2008, 5:34 PM
I knew when i put this Title of this thread up that it would stick out like a sore thumb and worry a few people:rolleyes:.I did it knowing too that media hacks, league officals etc do read these threads.It was however a genuine qs asked by mum and im sure loads of others too.
for the record i think 10 pts is not enough.

SeanDrog
30/08/2008, 6:52 PM
But we've a game in hand :D

true :rolleyes:

razor
30/08/2008, 7:59 PM
for the record i think 10 pts is not enough.I've an idea.
Why don't you start a thread about it.
You never know....:D

SMorgan
30/08/2008, 8:56 PM
I see Kevin Doyle scored a hat-trick for Reading today.

I wonder will that make him more likely or less likely to leave Reading.

Remember Cork's future may well depend on him moving on by Monday.

skitz3
30/08/2008, 10:43 PM
Here's hoping he stays put so.

micls
31/08/2008, 12:03 AM
Here's hoping he stays put so.

Nice..

skitz3
31/08/2008, 12:28 AM
Just returning the sentiment boy.