EPL Thread 2008/09

[brianw82]

So Newcastle are down. Not trying to be smart or anything, but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving club. Perhaps now they'll get their act together.

Slightly disappointed to see Middlesbrough lose out. A club trying to go about things the right way, unlike Newcastle. Hopefully they'll have a good season in the Championship and bounce back.

[Sicuani]

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[NeilMcD]

Phil Brown confirmed again he is a the biggest egomaniac with his antics.

[DmanDmythDledge]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/8066339.stm

Gimp.

[Den Perry]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/8066339.stm

Gimp.

I might sound a bit mad saying this, but Hull need to get rid of Brown. I'm not denying he did an unbelievable job over the last few years and up to Christmas, but it appears that he has lost the dressing room since that episode at Man City.Then, to cap it al he goes singing on the pitch yesterday?

Did anybody hear waht the RTE panel said about that? I missed it....

[old git]

So Newcastle are down. Not trying to be smart or anything, but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving club. Perhaps now they'll get their act together.

Slightly disappointed to see Middlesbrough lose out. A club trying to go about things the right way, unlike Newcastle. Hopefully they'll have a good season in the Championship and bounce back.

delighted to see newcastle going down good club / fans (but hate shearer) he waited untill last 8 games to go in as manager so he could not lose if they were relegated .. if such a geordie legend why did he turn job down around xmas/ january 1 win from 8 games beat middlesborough !! team had no passion / desire last game against aston villa went out with a wimper he has to take some of the blame instead of blaming everybody else :mad:

[superfrank]

FFS, what's so bad about Phil Brown celebrating that he kept the side up?

Nobody would have expected them to stay up this year but they did. He should be allowed to celebrate, he's earned it.

[DeLorean]

FFS, what's so bad about Phil Brown celebrating that he kept the side up?

Nobody would have expected them to stay up this year but they did. He should be allowed to celebrate, he's earned it.

He has done a fantastic job there and they were amazing in the first third of the season. However one win from 22 league games and surviving courtesy of another result on the final day should, in my opinion, have led to slightly embarrassed relief, not idiotic showboating. He's a tool.

[NeilMcD]

Also do you see one player on the pitch as he is singing. Not one player.

[superfrank]

However one win from 22 league games and surviving courtesy of another result on the final day should, in my opinion, have led to slightly embarrassed relief, not idiotic showboating. He's a tool.
Have you ever seen a team that has avoided relegation on the last day of the season go "Oh, thank God we stayed up but let's just keep calm and forget about it"?


I haven't. Usually, there are celebrations and pitch invasions by the fans. Why can't the manager join in?

[DeLorean]

Have you ever seen a team that has avoided relegation on the last day of the season go "Oh, thank God we stayed up but let's just keep calm and forget about it"?


I haven't. Usually, there are celebrations and pitch invasions by the fans. Why can't the manager join in?

I'm not critisising him for being happy, I'm critisising him for being a moron. The guy has no class and is deluded about his self importance. I wouldn't have minded so much if his team had put a credible run together in the last few weeks to pull themselves out of trouble. Instead they continued on their shocking run which he initiated with his ridiculous antics at Eastlands.

[YNWA]

Don't know what Phil Brown was doing yesterday. OK fair enough celebrate away but going singing around the stadium was a bit much after being extremely lucky to stay up. They'll go down next season. Great to see Burnley come up, they deserved it over the season. They'll need to oust a few heads ie Chris Eagles over the summer, he's not a Premier League player

[jmurphyc]

I think Brown's actions were graceless. The RTE panel were quite right in what they said about it. There's a certain way to celebrate. How would Shearer, the Newcastle players (the ones that give a ****) and, particularly, the Newcastle fans, feel when they saw that? If I was a Newcastle fan that would drive me up the wall.

[brianw82]

I think Brown's actions were graceless. The RTE panel were quite right in what they said about it. There's a certain way to celebrate. How would Shearer, the Newcastle players (the ones that give a ****) and, particularly, the Newcastle fans, feel when they saw that? If I was a Newcastle fan that would drive me up the wall.

What did the panel say about it?

[old git]

I think Brown's actions were graceless. The RTE panel were quite right in what they said about it. There's a certain way to celebrate. How would Shearer, the Newcastle players (the ones that give a ****) and, particularly, the Newcastle fans, feel when they saw that? If I was a Newcastle fan that would drive me up the wall.

so you are saying the mighty/ humble newcastle fans would not have celebrated if they had avoided relegation... brown's actions a bit over the top alright but surely they are entitled to celebrate after avoiding relegation on last day of season.. by the way hull celebrations were not aimed directly at newcastle unlike sunderland fans who held up signs " lets all laugh at newcastle ha ha ha " now that is graceless and rte panel and everybody chose to ignore this :confused:

[Den Perry]

so you are saying the mighty/ humble newcastle fans would not have celebrated if they had avoided relegation... brown's actions a bit over the top alright but surely they are entitled to celebrate after avoiding relegation on last day of season.. by the way hull celebrations were not aimed directly at newcastle unlike sunderland fans who held up signs " lets all laugh at newcastle ha ha ha " now that is graceless and rte panel and everybody chose to ignore this :confused:

I can't say I'd criticise Sunderland fans for slagging the Toon(and believe meI'd have a lot more love for Newcastle than Sunderland), buts that's fan rivalry. I have no problem with the Hull fans, players or even the manager celebrating. However, to take a mike and start singing is just looking for attention and it appears that Brown just wants to be differant(thus gaining attention)...if the rumour mill is true he lost the dressing room after that debacle at Man City and if he stays there I will lump on them to go down next season

[OwlsFan]

Phil Brown confirmed again he is a the biggest egomaniac with his antics.


He was that even without the singing episode (which I didn't see as I have been away) but I suppose Hull stayed in the Premiership so even if he was the devil incarnate, that's all that matters to the Hull supporters. Saw the Newcastle game in a bar in Spain and the second half performance was abysmal. They got what they deserved. Wonder will Duffer stay with them.

[OwlsFan]

Ancelotti the new Chelsea manager. Unless he wins the CL he says he will be a failure. No talk of the title. Just the CL. Obviously Abramovich has told him what the priority is to be. Tough target. Hopefully Chelsea will be a bit more attractive to watch.

[jmurphyc]

Ancelotti the new Chelsea manager. Unless he wins the CL he says he will be a failure. No talk of the title. Just the CL. Obviously Abramovich has told him what the priority is to be. Tough target. Hopefully Chelsea will be a bit more attractive to watch.

Well in order to have a chance of winning the CL he'll have to keep pace in the league in all likelihood. Scolari didn't, and got the sack.

[shakermaker1982]

Barry to Man City?! I bet the Villa fans are not happy. He kept on moaning about wanting Champions League Football and then ends up going to a club who won't be competing in any European competition next season. I'm sure his £100k a week salary had something to do with it but will he even get in the side ahead of Ireland, De Jong and Kompany?

[SkStu]

another overrated player secures his ridiculously waged transfer to a soulless corporation.

I grow to dislike the premiership more and more each day that passes.

[OwlsFan]

Barry to Man City?! I bet the Villa fans are not happy. He kept on moaning about wanting Champions League Football and then ends up going to a club who won't be competing in any European competition next season. I'm sure his £100k a week salary had something to do with it but will he even get in the side ahead of Ireland, De Jong and Kompany?

Apparently he's writing an open letter to the Villa fans explaining why he was leaving. That should make interesting reading (not). Obviously a money move no matter what he says. Could we end up with the two strongest EPL teams operating out of Manchester?

[Angus]

Don't understand the Barry / Citeh thing. Why would he move to a club 5 places beneath Villa especially when he had the second place team after him last year

Doesn't reconcile from a football perspective

[old git]

Don't understand the Barry / Citeh thing. Why would he move to a club 5 places beneath Villa especially when he had the second place team after him last year

Doesn't reconcile from a football perspective

plus he said earlier in season he would only leave villa for a team playing champions league football :confused::confused:

[OwlsFan]

Just might have something to do with this and who can blame him:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2290475072_329d6b9b7c.jpg

[DeLorean]

Barry owes nothing to anybody. He's been a terrific player in a poor team for most of his career. He's had a great attitude and is moving to a club on the up, possibly from a club in demise. Nobody had a problem with Given leaving Newcastle to go to City so I don't see much difference here. If a guy would prefer to spend the remaining few seasons of his career with a club that have a good chance of making huge progress then why not, and getting 100,000 instead of 40,000 a week is a no-brainer when he wanted to leave anyway.

[lionelhutz]

Barry owes nothing to anybody. He's been a terrific player in a poor team for most of his career. He's had a great attitude and is moving to a club on the up, possibly from a club in demise. Nobody had a problem with Given leaving Newcastle to go to City so I don't see much difference here. If a guy would prefer to spend the remaining few seasons of his career with a club that have a good chance of making huge progress then why not, and getting 100,000 instead of 40,000 a week is a no-brainer when he wanted to leave anyway.

Absolute rubbish, especially the part in bold. Firstly, Villa are no way a club in demise. O'Neill is one of the best managers in the game and has been for a long time and there's no chance Villa will be "in demise" while he's in charge.

Secondly, I like Mark Hughes but I still don't think they'll make the top 6 next season and Villa will finish ahead of them again. When you have players like Robinho and Elano who would prefer not to play away games the club is going nowhere fast.

As for the comparison to Given, he left the biggest laughing stock of a club in world football cause he knew they were going down and you're comparing his transfer to Barry's???

[DeLorean]

Absolute rubbish, especially the part in bold. Firstly, Villa are no way a club in demise. O'Neill is one of the best managers in the game and has been for a long time and there's no chance Villa will be "in demise" while he's in charge.

Obviously Villa weren't a team in demise last season and have made steady improvements every year under O'Neill. That being said it's hard to see them improving significantly on this season and with the like of City and Spurs likely to be better next season I can see them slipping down the table a bit. Sorry for spouting such absolute rubbish though:confused:


Secondly, I like Mark Hughes but I still don't think they'll make the top 6 next season and Villa will finish ahead of them again. When you have players like Robinho and Elano who would prefer not to play away games the club is going nowhere fast.

I'll have to wait and see who they buy first but they definitely have the potential to improve, and Barry in my opinion is a proper player who will add an awful lot.


As for the comparison to Given, he left the biggest laughing stock of a club in world football cause he knew they were going down and you're comparing his transfer to Barry's???

Wasn't comparing each players situations really just the money aspect. There was no talk of Given going for the money or anything like that whereas people were talking about Barry like he's Ashley Cole.

[OwlsFan]

Why the fuss? Would anyone of us turn down 100k a week compared to 40k? Absolutely not.

Footballers are mercenaries. That's a fact. It's only the fans who stay loyal (mostly).

[OwlsFan]

So Bruce to Sunderland. Usual sound bites about big fan base, large club, great potential etc etc. Certainly a bigger club than Wigan but not sure it is easy to bring success to the North East for some reason. The history of the clubs in that region shows constant under achievement despite the large fan base.

[oscar]

the diference between Sunderland and Newcastle is the Mackems don't think they have a divine right to win trophies,I suppose Boro would be the same,i think Bruce is a good manager but has a job on his hands there.A big clear out is whats needed,for awhile there it looked like Wearside was going to become the 5th province,if you were Irish and could kick a ball you were signed

[shakermaker1982]

I'd expect to see a few Central/South Americans moving to Sunderland. Bruce has a good couple of contacts over in that part of the world. I think he'll do a good job up there.