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celticV3
18/08/2008, 11:05 AM
Unsure if this has been discussed or not, but have just found out about Galway United being fined for racist abuse of one of our players, mauro almeida. He was racially abused while giving the post match interview on receiving man of the match and as the match is was on television and still on the TG4 site i looked it up to see could anything be heard.

As clear as day more than one fan can be heard on live television asking our player "Did he want a banana" and what worried me was that their was laughter after each comment from a wider crowd which makes it a little harder to say that it was one fool. It seemed that the GUFC fans had come down to cheer their manager when he was about to give his interview and therefore this person should easily be found out.

Racism should not be tolerated and i am honestly shocked at the fine being as little as €300?

the footage of the incident is here at 2hrs and 11minutes in,
http://www.tg4.tv/channels/SportArchive.aspx?a=48957&title=Sacar Beo -11/7

Duggie
18/08/2008, 11:12 AM
Unsure if this has been discussed or not, but have just found out about Galway United being fined for racist abuse of one of our players, mauro almeida. He was racially abused while giving the post match interview on receiving man of the match and as the match is was on television and still on the TG4 site i looked it up to see could anything be heard.

As clear as day more than one fan can be heard on live television asking our player "Did he want a banana" and what worried me was that their was laughter after each comment from a wider crowd which makes it a little harder to say that it was one fool. It seemed that the GUFC fans had come down to cheer their manager when he was about to give his interview and therefore this person should easily be found out.

Racism should not be tolerated and i am honestly shocked at the fine being as little as €300?

the footage of the incident is here at 2hrs and 11minutes in,
http://www.tg4.tv/channels/SportArchive.aspx?a=48957&title=Sacar Beo -11/7

prob all they could afford right now.
prob just some ignorant fool - there everywhere

celticV3
18/08/2008, 11:15 AM
prob all they could afford right now.
prob just some ignorant fool - there everywhere

But thats the thing, i thought the same but on seing the footage it's clearly more than one person shouting and there is an eruption of laughter after the first few comments from a wider group?:confused:

brianw82
18/08/2008, 11:22 AM
I watched it just now, was kinda hoping I wouldn't actually hear anything, but it's there alright.

€300 is a mockery. No player should have to put up with racial abuse like that.

Conroy
18/08/2008, 11:28 AM
Surely a more heavy fine would have been inforced, So much for Galway's Show Racism The Red Card campaign.

Juanace
18/08/2008, 11:33 AM
Reckon there might be an element of fans doing Galway a disservice.

I was there as a UCD fan (yes we do exist) last week and was subjected to vicious anti-dublin abuse. I'm well able to take a bit of banter but this was felt like real hatred. My mate was also jostled and called Dublin scrum dublin *****s etc when Galway scored. Actually left the stand before the end cause it was so bad and thought if Galway scored we'd get hopped on!

Sure its just a few bad eggs but they need to have a look at this. €300 is a total joke by the way. That fan should be banned for life and his mates who cracked up laughing.

Claret Murph
18/08/2008, 11:44 AM
Reckon there might be an element of fans doing Galway a disservice.

I was there as a UCD fan (yes we do exist) last week and was subjected to vicious anti-dublin abuse. I'm well able to take a bit of banter but this was felt like real hatred. My mate was also jostled and called Dublin scrum dublin *****s etc when Galway scored. Actually left the stand before the end cause it was so bad and thought if Galway scored we'd get hopped on!

Sure its just a few bad eggs but they need to have a look at this. €300 is a total joke by the way. That fan should be banned for life and his mates who cracked up laughing.

Now I was not at the Sligo match so it is hard for me to comment but every club has it's idiots which I am sorry to say .
As for the UCD boys who were at the game at Terryland I was shocked why they were let in the main stand in the first place as we have section F in the small stand for the away surpporters . But saying that again I do not condone any form of racist abuse and with my English accent I have been on the reciveing end of it far too many times in Ireland in the past .:ball:

sligoman
18/08/2008, 11:56 AM
What a shower of idiots. "You're not from Sligo" "Do you want a banana?"

Absolutely disgusting and it doesn't sound like children either so you can't even use their 'young age' as an excuse.

jebus
18/08/2008, 11:57 AM
Aside from GUST pointing out the culprits (if they know them) there isn't much GUFC can do about it I'm afraid. It's a shame the TG4 cameraman didn't pan onto the Galway idiot and the laughing sheep and shame them on national television to be honest

Hulsey
18/08/2008, 12:08 PM
Unforunately there are complete scumbags who carry on this way. Remember it happening to our striker Emeka Onwubiko up in sligo last season. A group of about 4 or 5 lads around the 16-20 age group gave him awfull abuse, and these "hardmen" ran off like the little cowards they were and hid when we pointed this out to the stewards on duty. Its a real shame cos that kind of thing really ruins your enjoyment of the game. No fcuking need for that crap

Red&White Rover
18/08/2008, 12:11 PM
Seen it on Tg4 there.

More than just one fool involved quite clearly.

Absolutely disgraceful from Galway.

Terry-Lander
18/08/2008, 12:26 PM
I'm gutted. The scum who shouted such abuse and those laughing should get lifetime bans. There is no excuse for such behaviour and neither is there any excuse for not naming and shaming those involved. I would appeal to all genuine fans who may know those involved to pass their names onto the club.

chipsahoy
18/08/2008, 12:35 PM
not surprised at all really. a nation of racists we are. it could have happened with any fanase in this country (well maybe not ucd). its disgusting behaviour. one of the few things i can't actually stand. think thats bad? a drogheda fan was given a lifetime ban for abusing ibrahima thiam at united park!!! the mind boggles

:confused:

Titan
18/08/2008, 12:46 PM
Now I was not at the Sligo match so it is hard for me to comment but every club has it's idiots which I am sorry to say .
As for the UCD boys who were at the game at Terryland I was shocked why they were let in the main stand in the first place as we have section F in the small stand for the away surpporters . But saying that again I do not condone any form of racist abuse and with my English accent I have been on the reciveing end of it far too many times in Ireland in the past .:ball:

Surely the bit in bold is irrelevant? why is it a big deal that a few away supporters be allowed in the main stand? Its not as if there was hundreds of them and surely they could have expected to watch the match in peace?

marley
18/08/2008, 12:48 PM
Iwouldn't say we are a nation of racists. If there were 1000 people at the galway game and 5 of them started this you cannot say that Galway fans are racist. It's sickening when it happens but people who shout this sh*t in my opinion are of low intelligence

brianw82
18/08/2008, 12:49 PM
If the club knows who these people are, they must be banned and really should be named and shamed by the announcer at their next game. They deserve nothing less, and a whole lot worse.

Almeida is such a genuine player, he always acknowledges the Rovers supporters before and after every game. He has nothing but my respect and support.

GUISAUltra
18/08/2008, 12:54 PM
its an absolute disgrace and the people who did this are moronic idiots and deserve nothing less than being banned for life and named and shamed. these people have absolutely no place in any football ground or anywhere else in society. they're a disgrace.

Magicme
18/08/2008, 1:21 PM
Surely a more heavy fine would have been inforced, So much for Galway's Show Racism The Red Card campaign.

So they shouldnt bother with Show Racism the Red Card if one or 2 idiots are stupid enough to ignore it? In my opinion it is even more important for them to continue to promote this and this is something Dundalk know too well themselves and why Paul Johnson and Daniel Walsh are doing vital work and this needs to continue.

Racism in the game is rare thankfully but it is something that will need effort continuously if it is to be erradicated totally. Its great that so many people on here can see that these lowlifes were wrong and its positives like that which will help drive the campaign on.

Claret Murph
18/08/2008, 1:31 PM
Surely the bit in bold is irrelevant? why is it a big deal that a few away supporters be allowed in the main stand? Its not as if there was hundreds of them and surely they could have expected to watch the match in peace?

Qusstion Why do we have segregation at soccer games ? When the away fans go into the home section at a match what do you expect people to come up to you with a bunch of flowers ???
Also remember United were one nil and and playing with 10 men after 12 minutes so you can imagine how everybody was feeling at that time , ohh sorry apart from the 40 UCD fans that is .:o

Macy
18/08/2008, 1:36 PM
I wouldn't expect segregation at UCD v anyone. In most grounds at most games fans can mix, especially in the main stand.

Schumi
18/08/2008, 1:38 PM
If you're going to have segregation, it might be useful to tell away fans about it. There was no indication anywhere that there was an away section.

This is all off topic anyway and probably should be moved somewhere else.

SalvadorSanchez
18/08/2008, 2:29 PM
Didn't see the footage but there's no place for this type of thing in our game, or indeed amongst our supporters at Galway United. We need to act and find out what little bo****** made such an appalling comment and deal with him HARSHLY. We have a small group of scummy little Bast***s that we need to clamp down on.
Tme for the club to act and send a message to these little wan***s.....

My apologies to the gentleman who was racially abused and to SRFC and their supporters.

centre mid
18/08/2008, 2:31 PM
Didnt sound like young voices but I could be wrong. poor form alright.

galwayhoop
18/08/2008, 2:50 PM
is the footage gone? the link just goes to cartoons!!

anyway it is my experience that racism in this country comes predominantly from the older generations. a 40 or 50 year old is much more likely to call someone 'a black bas@##d' (or something similar) than a young lad is.

the incident, which i can only assume was clear for all to hear on the TV is bad and shouldn't obviously be tolerated. However to say Galway United have a racist element or support is a bit wide of the mark. Yes, obviously the idiot caught here is a clown but one eejit doesn't mean it is a major problem.

We have seen big fines for other countries but that was when the whole stand or close to the majority in it were involved in systematic racial abuse.

SalvadorSanchez
18/08/2008, 2:52 PM
Surely you knew though that the away fans in Terryland park are usually kept in one end of the old stand. Why couldn't you just watch the game from there and stay out of the new stand

That's not the issue.... People should be able to sit anywhere they like and watch the game unmolested... Granted if you sit in the middle of a group of home fans wearing your colours or acting the bol***** you'll draw a load of trouble on yourself, segregation is not 100% practical in Terryland or a great deal of other grounds due to the situation with Access/Toilets/Catering etc.
People should be able to control themselves.. and failing that stewards and the Gardai should be able to control...

stann
18/08/2008, 2:53 PM
From listening to it, and it's as plain as day alright, no way was it a young lad who shouted it. Nor did the laughing voices sound that young either.
To me it sounded like a gob****e, possibly half-cut, who thought, 'here's my chance to look big and clever in front of the lads' and who was backed up by a thick-as-sun-baked-pig**** gaggle of cackling fools. Not race-hatred racism then, but just pig-ignorant, should know much better, gombeen racism. Sad to say but Irish society as a whole is full of that. Still should be identified and banned if at all possible though.

SalvadorSanchez
18/08/2008, 2:55 PM
is the footage gone? the link just goes to cartoons!!

anyway it is my experience that racism in this country comes predominantly from the older generations. a 40 or 50 year old is much more likely to call someone 'a black bas@##d' (or something similar) than a young lad is.

the incident, which i can only assume was clear for all to hear on the TV is bad and shouldn't obviously be tolerated. However to say Galway United have a racist element or support is a bit wide of the mark. Yes, obviously the idiot caught here is a clown but one eejit doesn't mean it is a major problem.

We have seen big fines for other countries but that was when the whole stand or close to the majority in it were involved in systematic racial abuse.

Don't make excuses... condemn this mindless stupidity, making any kind of excuse is an embarassment...

Sumac
18/08/2008, 3:05 PM
There is no excuse for this. Its an absolute disgrace and the people laughing are nearly as guilty as the culprit.
Unfortunately I am not sure whether we can be confident of naming and banning the individual. If they can't be seen on the clip it might be hard for people to recognise the voice
Would be great if found and not only banned for life but charged with racial abuse:mad:

gufcfan
18/08/2008, 3:26 PM
I was tempted to let this go but..

I was present when the aforementioned incident occurred. I was making my way away from where the interviews were being done when I heard someone make the comments.

I condemn anyone behaving in such a way and hope that all parties agree that these kind of people have no place in this world, never mind a football match.

As I said, I was present when the incident occured but I was not able to the isolate the person from within the group that had congregated beside the cameras.

Also, while I obviously condemn this person's actions, I am not convinced that the laughter heard following the comments were at all connected to each other. Another comment was made almost at the same time along the lines of "You're not from Sligo". You can read into that as you will, but it is my honest opinion that people were laughing at the latter rather than the former.

BohDiddley
18/08/2008, 3:51 PM
anyway it is my experience that racism in this country comes predominantly from the older generations. a 40 or 50 year old is much more likely to call someone 'a black bas@##d' (or something similar) than a young lad is..
Ageist! ;)

galwayhoop
18/08/2008, 3:56 PM
Don't make excuses... condemn this mindless stupidity, making any kind of excuse is an embarassment...

i didn't make any excuses, read again

SalvadorSanchez
18/08/2008, 3:59 PM
i didn't make any excuses, read again

Apologies, misread last line.

dcfc1928
18/08/2008, 4:01 PM
No place for it at any ground in the country and anyone using this type of lanuage is an idiot scumbag and should be banned for life from the ground. Let them know that these actions are not to be tolerated. Surely there must have been stewards around at the time of the incident and those responsible should be identifiable?

galwayhoop
18/08/2008, 4:04 PM
Apologies, misread last line.

Don't make excuses... condemn this mindless stupidity, making any kind of excuse is an embarassment...

deecay
18/08/2008, 4:07 PM
I dont know who is worse,the fella's who stood beside the tg4 camera or the FAI.Two idiots in the crowd shouted 'do you want a bannana' at Mauro Almedia.Thats bad enough but I didnt hear any argueing or anything after that,so all the other fella's who were there singing didnt confront these idiots,who's worse?And then the FAI fine them €300:rolleyes:

galwayhoop
18/08/2008, 4:11 PM
again (for the slow boys) i am not condoning or excusing the actions of the idiots but the TG4 interviewer should probably spend a bit more time when deciding where to carry out his interviews. when carrying out an interview (after a derby game) with the opposing manager and the lad who equalised in the game is it best practice to pick the spot directly beside the 'section A' (insert casuals/ultras or whaterever your own clubs vocal supporters refer to themselves here) supporters - especially for a live interview????

deecay
18/08/2008, 4:20 PM
again (for the slow boys) i am not condoning or excusing the actions of the idiots but the TG4 interviewer should probably spend a bit more time when deciding where to carry out his interviews. when carrying out an interview (after a derby game) with the opposing manager and the lad who equalised in the game is it best practice to pick the spot directly beside the 'section A' (insert casuals/ultras or whaterever your own clubs vocal supporters refer to themselves here) supporters - especially for a live interview????
You dont have a clue

SalvadorSanchez
18/08/2008, 4:27 PM
Don't make excuses... condemn this mindless stupidity, making any kind of excuse is an embarassment...


Chill Winston.....

Conor H
18/08/2008, 4:34 PM
You dont have a clue

Rich....

Having spoke to a few people within the club the tape was watched numerous times but the individual cannot be identified.UTD took this very seriously and issued a letter of apology to both Sligo Rovers and the player in question.

Terryland as many supporters of other clubs know is in general very friendly and welcoming to both the opposition supporters and staff.In conjunction with ourselves at GUST,the cClub have been very prominent in the "No to Racism" campaign.This is a killer blow.

galwayhoop
18/08/2008, 4:40 PM
You dont have a clue
as i say....
"or whaterever your own clubs vocal supporters refer to themselves here."

the interviewer set himself up right beneath the supporters who had been standing, drumming and shouting for the entire match. as i said i'm not excusing the behavior but a small bit of common sense from the lad doing the interview might have avoided this storm in a tea cup.

Red&White Rover
18/08/2008, 4:54 PM
Yeah, he should have seen the aforementioned comment coming.


In general, any interviews by TG4 are done pitchside at the final whistle, and it's the first time i've seen such an incident occur.

SMorgan
18/08/2008, 5:34 PM
.... TD took this very seriously .....


Which is a hell a lot more than the FAI did.

The €300 fine is a sad joke which sends out a message that racism is tolerated.

Sniffer
18/08/2008, 5:44 PM
Which is a hell a lot more than the FAI did.

The €300 fine is a sad joke which sends out a message that racism is tolerated.

Agree, the FAI should have either done nothing - accepting the fact that Galway united apologised to player and club - or if they were going to draw attention to the incident with a fine it needed to be a hefty one. One which Sligo can definitely do without of course in their current financial circumstances - maybe this formed part of the reasoning behind the paltry fine.

Conor H
18/08/2008, 5:47 PM
Which is a hell a lot more than the FAI did.

The €300 fine is a sad joke which sends out a message that racism is tolerated.

Not making any excuses but i would imagine it's only E300 as it was one individual and not a section of the support.
Nevertheless we were lucky to only get fined E300.

jebus
18/08/2008, 5:59 PM
If the comment came from where the ultras/casuals/whatever you want to call them, usually stand in Terryland then I find it hard to believe that there isn't one GUST member who doesn't know who said it to be honest. I've always said that it's mostly down to a club's supporters to keep each other in check, when that doesn't happen the club get disgraced, and I'm pretty certain that if GUST made their own enquiries into this incident they'd be able to find who said it.

Conor H
18/08/2008, 6:04 PM
If the comment came from where the ultras/casuals/whatever you want to call them, usually stand in Terryland then I find it hard to believe that there isn't one GUST member who doesn't know who said it to be honest. I've always said that it's mostly down to a club's supporters to keep each other in check, when that doesn't happen the club get disgraced, and I'm pretty certain that if GUST made their own enquiries into this incident they'd be able to find who said it.

No the comment came from a group of teenagers that were not recognised by anyone from GUFC or the Trust.
Fully agree with you Jebus but rest assured if any semi-intelligent GUFC supporter had heard any such abuse they would have dealt with the individual themselves.
The tape has been viewed numerous times and unfortunately nobody could be identified.

Also UTD do not have a casual group and along with every other club in the country bar Rovers we do not have an Ultra group.

jebus
18/08/2008, 6:08 PM
No the comment came from a group of teenagers that were not recognised by anyone from GUFC or the Trust.
Fully agree with you Jebus but rest assured if any semi-intelligent GUFC supporter had heard any such abuse they would have dealt with the individual themselves.
The tape has been viewed numerous times and unfortunately nobody could be identified.

Also UTD do not have a casual group and along with every other club in the country bar Rovers we do not have an Ultra group.

Fair enough, although it's debatable as to whether the Rovers Ultras even count as a proper Ultras group to be honest, although I agree that they are the best candidates from Ireland for that mantle*

*(I assume we're talking about the proper Rovers from Dublin here as well)

Conor H
18/08/2008, 6:12 PM
Fair enough, although it's debatable as to whether the Rovers Ultras even count as a proper Ultras group to be honest, although I agree that they are the best candidates from Ireland for that mantle*

*(I assume we're talking about the proper Rovers from Dublin here as well)

Chrsyt yes.Shamrock Rovers are "Rovers".

deecay
18/08/2008, 6:18 PM
Time for a real Rovers fan to step in,jebus you are underestimating alot of ultra groups in Ireland.F45U,SRFC Ultras and the two groups in Derry are very active and colourfull groups

Patrick Dunne
18/08/2008, 10:38 PM
F45u ?