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dynamo kerry
14/08/2008, 1:49 PM
Afternoon All
Can any of ye boys let me know via this thread when you get the form for allocation of home tickets please.
My tickets and forms get sent to my sisters house and I'm worried she won't bother letting me know I have post there. (I live in the uk and prefer to have my tickets posted to an address in Dublin)

Ta muchly

DK

Sligo Hornet
14/08/2008, 2:06 PM
Afternoon All
Can any of ye boys let me know via this thread when you get the form for allocation of home tickets please.
My tickets and forms get sent to my sisters house and I'm worried she won't bother letting me know I have post there. (I live in the uk and prefer to have my tickets posted to an address in Dublin)

Ta muchly

DK

No problem........I'll post on here the moment after She rings me!! :D

Fr. Joe
19/08/2008, 9:16 PM
These must surely be out soon.

Green Tribe
19/08/2008, 9:23 PM
usually sent out the day we go abroad for an away game :mad:

Bluetonic
21/08/2008, 10:24 AM
Arrived in the post this morning.

No price change either -70 euro for Cusack Lower for Cyprus, 55 for Poland.

Fr. Joe
21/08/2008, 1:48 PM
Yep arrived this morning 50 for Cyrus and 40 for Poland, Davin Stand.

paul_oshea
21/08/2008, 2:14 PM
feck im finding it hard at the moment, pity this wasn't a bit later.

so they have put the Cyprus qualifier with the polish game?

AidoM
21/08/2008, 2:36 PM
Yep arrived this morning 50 for Cyrus and 40 for Poland, Davin Stand.

Yes they have the BB's by the short and curlies for the friendlies :eek: :mad: :mad:

Kingdom
22/08/2008, 8:21 AM
I got my form yesterday. A weeks notice ro raise 500€ for a game in Oct and a game in Nov. How is that acceptable? I won't see the rest of the guys in my group before next friday and I cannot pay 500 off the cuff like that. I'm raging.
Worked it out last night. They'll get 2.8 million early for the cyprus game to sit in a bank. That'll gather a nice bit of interest.

Reddladd
22/08/2008, 9:01 AM
To be honest I think the FAI are way out of order with the way they sell their tickets. It's not a cheap exercise going to games anymore and rather than rewarding their loyal customers they are screwing them. They're basically saying that we have a nice friendly lined up and you can't go to the qualifier unless you go to the friendly also. In effect you are paying double the price to see a qualifier..................lets face it the friendly in November is just a money spinner for the FAI.
I am not happy with the idea that I have to purchase the same amount of tickets for all games particularly friendlies.
I'm getting to the stage where I'll continue to go to away games but I am strongly considering canceling my BB for home games. This idea of having to buy for two games at a time is unfair and as somebody already stated one of those games is not for 3 months.

shakermaker1982
22/08/2008, 9:41 AM
what's the deadline lads? My forms haven't arrived yet.

gspain
22/08/2008, 1:17 PM
To be honest I think the FAI are way out of order with the way they sell their tickets. It's not a cheap exercise going to games anymore and rather than rewarding their loyal customers they are screwing them. They're basically saying that we have a nice friendly lined up and you can't go to the qualifier unless you go to the friendly also. In effect you are paying double the price to see a qualifier..................lets face it the friendly in November is just a money spinner for the FAI.
I am not happy with the idea that I have to purchase the same amount of tickets for all games particularly friendlies.
I'm getting to the stage where I'll continue to go to away games but I am strongly considering canceling my BB for home games. This idea of having to buy for two games at a time is unfair and as somebody already stated one of those games is not for 3 months.

Surely offering their loyal customers a guaranteed ticket for every home game is rewarding them and not screwing them.

I know plenty of rugby and GAA fans who would love the opportunity to be guaranteed tickets for big games because they go to the so called "mickey mouse" ones.

there is a waiting list for block bookings. The people o nthat who buy the tickets when offered are moving up to become block bookers.

The senior team is the FAI's main source of revenue to run football in this country. I think the BB system is a great way of selling tickets, rewarding the loyal fans and earning income as well.

Remember away tickets are sold to BBers first as well. While in most cases you'll get in anyway it will be harder to get tickets.

Calcio Jack
22/08/2008, 1:34 PM
Surely offering their loyal customers a guaranteed ticket for every home game is rewarding them and not screwing them.

I know plenty of rugby and GAA fans who would love the opportunity to be guaranteed tickets for big games because they go to the so called "mickey mouse" ones.

there is a waiting list for block bookings. The people o nthat who buy the tickets when offered are moving up to become block bookers.

The senior team is the FAI's main source of revenue to run football in this country. I think the BB system is a great way of selling tickets, rewarding the loyal fans and earning income as well.

Remember away tickets are sold to BBers first as well. While in most cases you'll get in anyway it will be harder to get tickets.

No offence but I think saying that the FAI is "rewarding" BBs is rubbish.... I've been block booking for approx 15 years...originally to retain your spot as a BB you were only obliged to take tickets for w/cup or euro games... then and I can still remember it, we were sent a letter from Fran Rooney telling us how as a valued customer blah blah the FAI (Rooney) had decided to offer us the same number of tickets for friendlies...and in the small print he told us that if we didn't take them we'd lose our BB allocation for the compeditive games....

So now I end up taking 4 tickets for all games..which are used by me and my kids... so being forced to buy tickets for the Poland game on a winters school night IMO is being rightly screwed... as a loyal customer the least a BB should get is a discount... as the economy tightens methinks the FAI are going to find that many of their BBs just won't be able to affored to buy tickets.

slightly off topic..but I wonder what approach will they take with BBs when it comes to Lansdowne... they need to sell 10,000 premium seats, so wonder will they be also offering BBs the same allocation as they currently have or will they try to force us to buy the premium seats ??

Reddladd
22/08/2008, 3:01 PM
Surely offering their loyal customers a guaranteed ticket for every home game is rewarding them and not screwing them.



But it's not offering you a ticket it's telling you that you have to buy one or you won't get future tickets. Can't understand how that is rewarding your loyal customers. I take five tickets for each game and more often than not it costs me more than the price of the ticket to go to the friendlies!

gspain
22/08/2008, 9:52 PM
But it's not offering you a ticket it's telling you that you have to buy one or you won't get future tickets. Can't understand how that is rewarding your loyal customers. I take five tickets for each game and more often than not it costs me more than the price of the ticket to go to the friendlies!

It's giving you the chance to buy them for the glamour games as well.

Take rugby, when England come to town a huge number of tickets end up in corporate hands, mainly sold by the clubs. Is that a fairer system? I know of one Kerry GAA fan who was at their first All Ireland round 1 game with 499 other people at home in Kerry 2 or 3 years ago. He attended every subsequent round until Kerry went to the final and he got no ticket. His father gave him his ticket in the end and missed the game himself. Now they had far far bigger crowds at subsequent rounds but I'm sure many people at the final were attending their only game of the year. Similiar story with Galway a couple of years back.

There were 4 home game slast year, 4 this year and probably the same next year or maybe a playoff as well. If they went back to a free for all then I could guarantee the people who went to Serbia and Poland would miss out on Italy, Brazil and Germany.

Greenforever
22/08/2008, 10:56 PM
But it's not offering you a ticket it's telling you that you have to buy one or you won't get future tickets. Can't understand how that is rewarding your loyal customers. I take five tickets for each game and more often than not it costs me more than the price of the ticket to go to the friendlies!

Why take 5 tickets?

I have a booking for 7, the same 7 people use them all the time, so really I only hae 1 ticket and the others are held in trust.

Are you just keeping others on the list for the big games??

The BB system is by far the fairest system going.

kingdomkerry
23/08/2008, 10:13 AM
I agree with gspain, i think its a fair system. I only get one ticket cause when i have spare tickets for the smaller games Im often left with them.

Just logged in and paid my €90 for the Upper Hogan. I think the upper tier is way better for soccer cause the pitch is way too far away from the lower parts of the bottom tier.

elroy
25/08/2008, 1:08 PM
I agree with gspain, i think its a fair system. I only get one ticket cause when i have spare tickets for the smaller games Im often left with them.

Just logged in and paid my €90 for the Upper Hogan. I think the upper tier is way better for soccer cause the pitch is way too far away from the lower parts of the bottom tier.

Ya i agree, was upper tier for the German game and was much better than most areas of lower tier. Althou i was in premium level for one game and that probably is the best view of all. Cant wait to get back to LR though, Croker doesnt suit football

OneRedArmy
25/08/2008, 5:10 PM
The block booking system per se is fine.

The ticket prices and the ridiculous turnaround times are less fine, particularly for large block bookings.

This should be done months ahead as other organisations manage to do (eg IRFU tickets for the Autumn internationals are all sorted and the 6 Nations will be done by early Autumn).

Expecting turnaround within a week is simply administrative incompetence on the FAI's behalf.

Kingdom
26/08/2008, 3:23 AM
There are two issues here as far as I'm concerned.
One is the way they offer tickets, which I'm happy with. It means I'm guarenteed a ticket for all games, which if the system wasn't in place, I wouldn't be. And as a fan why would I consider myself deserving of a ticket vs Italy if I couldn't be ar$ed going to the China game? I wonder why the game against Poland was organised for November? Guarenteed money spinner thats why. Large Polish community here and any sort of decent start will pull the Irish punters in too. But charging €50 for a Nov friendly is ridiculous and is definitely treating your customers with contempt. I'd love to see these type of friendlies go to Cork or Limerick. Then at least I'd know it would be about rewarding the fans or getting extra practice for the Senior team. I'd still travel to the games.

The main issue I have is the notice of paying and the amount of time between payment and the games. I have to shell out €500 for the 4 regular tickets that I get. Thats a tall order at the moment, particularily as two that had said they'd go have pulled out. Which leaves me with a sh1tty shortfall with one weeks notice. I wouldn't mind but I actually get out very rare, Ireland matches are what keep me going from month to month, and when they start to leave a bad taste in the mouth thats hard to take.

jbyrne
26/08/2008, 8:48 AM
I'd love to see these type of friendlies go to Cork or Limerick.

and play them in which stadium exactly?

Bluetonic
26/08/2008, 9:30 AM
I have to shell out €500 for the 4 regular tickets that I get. Thats a tall order at the moment, particularily as two that had said they'd go have pulled out. Which leaves me with a sh1tty shortfall with one weeks notice.
Really thats not the fault of the FAI, but all your angst seems to be aimed at them.

Schumi
26/08/2008, 9:33 AM
The ticket prices and the ridiculous turnaround times are less fine, particularly for large block bookings.

This should be done months ahead as other organisations manage to do (eg IRFU tickets for the Autumn internationals are all sorted and the 6 Nations will be done by early Autumn).

Expecting turnaround within a week is simply administrative incompetence on the FAI's behalf.Spot on. Why do they leave it so late? Collecting several thousand euros in a week is a right pain in the arse.

Bluetonic
26/08/2008, 9:48 AM
Anyone any idea of how many people pay online via the traditional methods?

The cynic in would say they leave it so late so as to persuade people to pay online which is less administration for them.

jbyrne
26/08/2008, 10:39 AM
this thursday the irfu are selling tickets to supporters club members. pricing and notice was only given a few days ago. this is about 1 weeks notice for purchasing tickets that are up to twice the price of the fai tickets. for someone with big block bookings to pay for i would have sympathy for but for everyone else its a very weak complaint really. the fai ticketing system is by far and away the fairest in the country

Kingdom
27/08/2008, 4:31 PM
and play them in which stadium exactly?

The Cross and Thomond.

Kingdom
27/08/2008, 4:32 PM
Really thats not the fault of the FAI, but all your angst seems to be aimed at them.

Its not the FAI's fault two pulled out. No complaint on that score. Its the one weeks notice that annoys me. I don't have 500 lids to just throw out at the drop of a hat. What if I was on a weeks holidays ? I'd be fooked then.

Greenforever
27/08/2008, 9:49 PM
Its not the FAI's fault two pulled out. No complaint on that score. Its the one weeks notice that annoys me. I don't have 500 lids to just throw out at the drop of a hat. What if I was on a weeks holidays ? I'd be fooked then.


To be honest they are very fair in the ticket office and if you were late they would ring you or write to you before cancelling the allocation and i'm sure they would let you split the payment if needed on a one off basis.

And you do know the dates of the matches well in advance so it's not as if's a surprise out of nowhere.

Im regulary away when the forms come out, as last week in Norway, and never had a problem.

gspain
29/08/2008, 9:26 AM
Lets start a campaign so for the FAI to scrap the block booking system and introduce the rugby system.

Lets see. you pay €50 a year for the chance to buy tickets. You logon to a website retry for about 4 hours to buy a ticket 6 months in advance (at far higher prices than for football) and it all goes tits up. You can only buy half the games anyway.

http://irishrugby.ie/283_12881.php

Or maybe we don't know how lucky we are.

jbyrne
29/08/2008, 10:58 AM
The Cross and Thomond.

thomond maybe but turners cross????

Bluetonic
31/08/2008, 6:13 PM
Ticket info on the new Lansdowne.

Really wish they would get things in order and work out how many of the existing block booking will move to the premium and how much of the existing block booking and waiting list will fill the 33,000 seats.

Date: Sunday, 31 August 2008
Section: News

The FAI has already announced that it will freeze the price of all general admission seats at the new stadium until at least 2012 (lowest price €40 for a friendly match and lowest price €50 for a competitive match).

Taking into account inflation, the cost of the 33,000 general admission seats at the new stadium will therefore fall in real terms in the period up to 2012 as a result of this price freeze.

In relation to premium seating, the FAI has been working with ISG on plans for the sale of the corporate boxes and premium seating.

ISG is the world leader in the sale and marketing of premium facilities at sports stadia. ISG has an unparalleled track record of working with sports venues worldwide to research and subsequently manage the sales process for their premium facilities. The company has been responsible for revenues in excess of €700m from premium facilities at the new Wembley Stadium.

ISG's process consists firstly of an extensive market research study to determine the optimal pricing and packaging of the facilities to ensure the packages offered match corporate and consumer demand.

A pre-launch phase is then carried out and this has taken place over the past month. ISG, on behalf of the FAI, has met with a range of corporate and individual contacts and outlined the packages and pricing.

The response has been extremely encouraging and provides further support for the research findings. These results will be reviewed with the FAI before the planned public launch on September 18th.

gspain
31/08/2008, 6:39 PM
Ticket info on the new Lansdowne.

Really wish they would get things in order and work out how many of the existing block booking will move to the premium and how much of the existing block booking and waiting list will fill the 33,000 seats.

I doubt if too many bbers will take premium tickets.

However they haven't even gone on sale yet so nobody knows.

Saint Tom
31/08/2008, 6:55 PM
try getting an allocation of 79 for a supporters club and getting a week to pay.... the only reason its done like this is if results dont go our way in the two september qualifiers.. same happened last year with germany and Cyrpus tickets (I got a riciculous demand to pay for 104 tickets within a week in case we didnt perform in czeck rep and slovakia) and you guessed it..

Bluetonic
01/09/2008, 11:56 AM
I doubt if too many bbers will take premium tickets.

However they haven't even gone on sale yet so nobody knows.
A fair amount of Lansdowne block bookings were corporate tickets, Eircom, BOI etc.., especially in the central lower east stand and central west stand.

I presume a lot of these will move into the 10,000 premium level tickets freeing up general seats.

gspain
02/09/2008, 11:27 AM
A fair amount of Lansdowne block bookings were corporate tickets, Eircom, BOI etc.., especially in the central lower east stand and central west stand.

I presume a lot of these will move into the 10,000 premium level tickets freeing up general seats.

There are corporate seats which were in the middle of the old East and West stands at Lansdowne. These were part of sponsorship deals with Eircom, Pepsi, Umbro, Statoil et al. These were not part of block booking allocations though.

Now some companies such as AIB and BOI have Blocking bookings. These companies do not sponsor Irish football in anyway AFAIK. These were offered to staff for some games and used to entertain clients for bigger games. They may move to corporate seats but quite possibly not.

Bluetonic
02/09/2008, 10:06 PM
So just how many block bookers were there in Lansdowne?

36,000 capacity: 10% away allocation leaves 32,400.

How many tickets were given to sponsors? A thousand? A couple of thousand? There always seemed to be lots of sponsor tickets floating around for every game, high or low profile. I often got my hand on some, and it was never to difficult.