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joeSoap
11/09/2003, 9:23 AM
As usual I am the bearer of not very happy tidings. This time, I'm afraid, it's quite serious.Things are at an all time low in the club from a financial perspective, with news I received last night from a very reliable source that players haven't been paid for the past fortnight, and that there is serious unrest with a few of them who either badly need to or simply want to get paid.
I was also informed of a serious piece of bad/insensitive management(not football related) that happened after a recent game. I'll share this with ye later as I want to verify its authenticity. Basically lads, we're fcuked, and have we been informed of any of this by our committee....Hell, no!!
Where do we go from here???....the only way now seems to be up!!(or more likely, completely out of football)

lims fan
11/09/2003, 2:01 PM
i genuinely would prefer the club not to exist at all than to continue like it is - the darkness, misery and hard luck story of western european football.

joeSoap
11/09/2003, 2:53 PM
I don't think any of us want it to exist as it does now...but we certainly want it to exist!! Players are going to start walking next, and then where are we??? really in the sh*t...a club without members, a team without players!!

lims fan
11/09/2003, 4:20 PM
the club are an embarassment to all the league and to all of football. They are a disgrace and I do not want to be associated with those ****wits of a committee. Its embarassing and why should we give a **** about a club that doesn't even respect itself.
It is run like a bingo club and it is lie after lie after lie and I've had enough. I will not darken their door again.
I actually hope they become extinct as then it will kill of the scum who run the club and may open a path for a new consortium.

Leinster Lim
11/09/2003, 5:40 PM
Ni bheidh a leithid ann aris.:(

gael353
11/09/2003, 5:47 PM
i just postered the town looking for people to turn up on Saturday and loads of people are asking me is the club being thrown out of te league this week??? :( why wont the committee meet us so we can take over and see can we do a better job for the rest of the season?? why do they just wait to spill the story of the extingtion of senior soccer to John O'Shaugnassy at the leader??? let us in now and save our club

gspain
12/09/2003, 7:15 AM
It would be sad sad day to lose senior football in the city after unbroken membership of the league since 1937.

If you are serious about taking over and the club is going to the wall then I can't see how the current committee would not walk away. However you do need to get alicence to play in th eleague next year. I can't see how that can be obtained now.

joeSoap
12/09/2003, 8:45 AM
Originally posted by lims fan

It is run like a bingo club and it is lie after lie after lie and I've had enough. I will not darken their door again.
I actually hope they become extinct as then it will kill of the scum who run the club and may open a path for a new consortium.
Seems to me like you want to have your cake and eat it. If you don't see it out to the bitter end, then you're only letting yourself, the players and the few hardcore fans down. It's not really acceptable that you walk away from it all now. We've all known the gravity of this situation for some time and deep down, have all come to expect the worst.
I've just received confirmation that there is not one penny there to pay wages this week, the third week in a row. How do you expect lads like Stevo and the Kerry lads to travel to training and matches from Mallow and Kerry for nothing...not even expenses. You can't, and they won't put up with it either. It was finally revealed to them(players)last night that they're not getting anything from the Dream team game...I'm sure that went down like a red balloon.

joeSoap
12/09/2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by lims fan
It is run like a bingo club .

most bingo clubs I know of are profitable, well run businesses...in no way are we like a bingo club.At bingo the old women know what they're doing...our old women don't!!!

gael353
12/09/2003, 6:43 PM
whats the other piece of news u had for us about the "bad/insencitive management" im waiting for this all week :)

Patrick Dunne
13/09/2003, 12:45 AM
.. Limerick fans.

If there was a whinging league for EL supporters you would be way ahead at the top.

Are any of you f**kers willing to do anything to assist your club ?

Why don't you start a lotto/do a fundraiser ?

No, this would involve some work and it would mean less time for meaningless rants on the internet.

Its obvious that the people running your club are incompetent.
Why don't you do something about it ?

P. Dunne.

deise deserter
14/09/2003, 10:49 AM
Dunne:

We have set up a Supporters' Club, run buses to the game, and help out fans of the club to help them supprt the team. Personally speaking, I would not give the people running the club a penny as they refuse to show accounts. Quite simply, I don't trust anyone who will take money and refuse to show where it goes.

On a personal note:
Any idiot who comes in on their second post and gives out about other club's fans while not knowing the facts of the matter is an obvious idiot trying to make a "name" for himself on internet, more than likely because he is unaccepted by others in real life (you know that thing where people point and laugh at you).

Loser.

joeSoap
15/09/2003, 9:17 AM
Originally posted by gael353
whats the other piece of news u had for us about the "bad/insencitive management" im waiting for this all week :)

sent you a pm on it gael, I don't think its fit for general consumption on this forum...too many people laughing at us as it is..

SodacakeFC
15/09/2003, 10:50 AM
If there was a award for being a prize p#%*k then Dunne it's all yours.
You have no concept of how difficult Limerick supporters have had it. How can anyone raise money with a lotto when we have no way of effecting how the club is run. We might as well just hand over cash to the wren boys.

Your ignorance is frightening stay off our posts if the sound of the justified frustration of people who love their club offends you.

Nomadic what the hell does that mean ???

joeSoap
15/09/2003, 11:07 AM
er....soda my man, I have nomadic down as my location because I travel around so much with my job that I never know where I'll be from one week to the next...I don't think W**ker Dunne even mentioned 'nomadic' in his posts. I know his stupidity probably clouded your ability to read the post correctly. However, I think we should all be thankful for idiots like him...he makes us all feel good about ourselves.

SodacakeFC
15/09/2003, 11:14 AM
Sorry Joesoap all offence intended for original target

joeSoap
15/09/2003, 11:19 AM
no problem sodacake

paudie
15/09/2003, 12:29 PM
Shame to see things so bad in Limerick.

Hope its sorted out soon though if the FAI implement this licencing thing a few other clubs could be in trouble.

The players are performing really well considering the wage situation etc.

joeSoap
15/09/2003, 1:06 PM
Thanks for the support Paudie...it's really appreciated. I saw something recently where the FAI have entered an agreement with AIB to financially help all clubs that need assistance meeting the UEFA licensing. The only problem with us is that you have to own your ground to benefit from such assistance, thus putting us firmly behind the 8 ball.
Basically, in the words of one Montgomery Burns, we have to stop lollygagging, and get on with it. We need to find some filthy rich, subservient monkey butler with a carefree attitude towards his wallet to initially bail us out...any takers???

parnell ranger
15/09/2003, 1:50 PM
"sent you a pm on it gael, I don't think its fit for general consumption on this forum...too many people laughing at us as it is.."

I dont think theres anyone laughing at ye.
It wasnt too long ago since we were in your position except we had a worse team.
ye know what ye have to do.
get the right people in where it counts.
All genuine soccer supporters are behind ye.

SodacakeFC
15/09/2003, 2:52 PM
He makes a good point Joe

joeSoap
15/09/2003, 3:40 PM
he sure does...:ball:

Bluebeard
16/09/2003, 12:21 PM
I think that it would be a very bad thing for the League of Ireland and the FAI if you did go under. A few other Blues I was talknig with are of the same opinion.

Like a number of people, I'm hoping to see Limerick get promoted before too long, and look forward to slagging you all off on the boards here befoer and after Derby games with you. But there is no-one here laughing at your fate. Unlike, for example, Kilkenny City, you are not a team that is struggling to get either local talent or local support. You have a good long tradition, and the league would be a much poorer place without you.

LFC in Exile
17/09/2003, 8:42 AM
Then send us all your doubloons. :)

We feel the same way too Bluebeard. Pity our committee don't share those sentiments.

JohnD
17/09/2003, 11:37 AM
Hi Guys was at the committee meeting with Deise last night and things are even more gloomier than I previously would have thought possible. Whilst I am refrained from broadcasting (rules of Committee and understandable ) the gory details, I can tell ye however that were are in serious danger of not playing football next season.

Major Points:

1..The Players will play on for the forseeable future without expenses.

2.. Travel is accounted for by Cars until end of year

3..Club insurance needs to be paid. Currently this is not possible.

4..Meetings will have to take place with Corporation re Markets Field urgently before end of season as a decision will have to be made for new one ie are we in the league or not.

5.. It looks unlikely that we will be in Pike next year barring some sort of Market's Field iniitative wherby they will let us there pending the development of the Markets Field

Sorry to be the Harbringer of Doom but there you go
:(

KEVIN 2
17/09/2003, 12:09 PM
any news on where we will be playing our home games next year? will it be Pike or what?

SodacakeFC
17/09/2003, 1:04 PM
What were the concrete plans the committee has for getting out of the current situation.

It all fine and good to say players will be out of pocket but this while laudable on the side of the players is another inditement of the people running the club.

The committee have to be able to offer concrete proposals for improvement and not a vague sniff of talks with th corporation about Markets Field. (smacks of dream team)

This situation now makes the pulbic meeting more vital than ever the real stakeholders in the club are the supporters. If the corporation are ever going to be swayed then they must see that there is political capital to be made and that can only be demonstrated by a public meeting.

This committee is doomed and they are hanging on for no benefit to anyone do they want to take the club with them.

The old cry of there are no concrete proposals/alternatives being put forward has been used as a screen long enough and now is the moment to see if Limerick FC can survive.

Call the meeting see who comes and then move forward

4tothefloor
18/09/2003, 10:38 AM
Why don't ye just call the meeting ASAP? Get politicians involved, get it in the news. Surely Willie O'Dea and all the local media will take the story up.

SodacakeFC
18/09/2003, 11:08 AM
A chance to get their mugs in the paper they will gobble it up

paudie
18/09/2003, 1:16 PM
What's the story with the Markets field?

From the posts I gather its owned by the Corporation. Is soccer still played there and what condition is the stand etc?



[To the home of my childhood away....]

joeSoap
18/09/2003, 2:21 PM
Its a greyhound track which was leased by Bord na gCon, who are moving out the county to pastures new. There was a fine soccer pitch in the middle of it, but this hasn't been used since the early nineties when local junior soccer was played on it. The place used to be jammed (8000 plus) for home games back in the early eighties when we were at our peak, but sadly we then moved out to, what we were told by an equally inept committee as todays one, a fine new stadium with vast potential. This involved our gates dropping to three figure attendances, the beginning of the slippery slope we're now on, and provided a perfectly good excuse for tosspots who really didn't want to travel out of the city to watch LOI football to stay at home..."ahh, its not the same since they left the markets field" and all that bull.Basically what happened then was, we were run by a local priest who was on the payroll of a local figue "known to the authorities" shall we say. He, in turn contrived to use his muscle to boot us out of this ground, 'cos he wanted it for "Parole Celtic". We then had to rent from the local scummy junior council, and most recently from a decent well run junior club.
The only good point about the current status of the markets field is that its protected by a preservation order, and must be kept a 'green area'. I warn against blind and foolish optimism of a return there, because , quite frankly, the current regime seem hardly capable of tying their own shoelaces, let alone orchestrate such a coup.

gael353
18/09/2003, 3:35 PM
markets field is owned by bord na gcon they bought it some years ago for 300 thousand pounds as well as the old telecom building for nearly one million pounds. Shur we'd love to own both and build our own san siro but shur. i replied to your pm Joe.