Bit O' Red Herring

[clubman]

Now in the fifth week after the dramatic news broke that the club needed 130,000 by end of July or the club would no longer exist. All's very quite now?? People have asked the question time and time again as to how the various fundraisers are going and nothing but a wall of silence from the Showgrounds. Yesterday under pressure from the public Ocean FM invited both the Club's CPO and Media Officer on live to answer the question. At the end of it all we the public were left more in the dark after being told 'it's going very well'.
With the deadline now pushed out to the end of August I'm left wondering was the whole episode just another Bit O' Red Herring.

[sligo1]

Hi Clubman,what exactly did they say?

[red arrow]

well clubman how much have you brought in? i so far have sold 6 syndicate cards. not boasting but action speaks louder than words. i have said it before unless we go around to the general public and ask we will not recieve. i have even mentioned this to some committe members. some are working hard others need to get off their butts. this time they cannot leave it to the few. the few who have always done the donkey work in the past few years. if we don;t reach the target the committe are responsible as they are the ones who called for the syndicate and therefore are accountable. now take a phot of that one!

[Knappagh Red]

"Club in Tatters Clubman" is back, I see your recent holiday did nothing to dispell your negitivity

[clubman]

If being negitive means not wanting to be treated like a mushroom (fed plenty of sh1t and left in the dark) then yes I am negative but then I suppose in your eyes so are all other Rovers followers.
As for the great work you red arrow do I've absolutely no doubt that you are one in a million.
As for knappagh red.......... having a holiday can sometimes be akin to the great bird the ostrich. A person takes a holiday to forget his/her troubles whereas the ostrich just buries it's head in the sand and hopes it goes away. Either way the troubles are still evident afterwards. Are you on a permanent holiday knappagh red?

[clubman]

well clubman how much have you brought in? i so far have sold 6 syndicate cards. not boasting but action speaks louder than words. i have said it before unless we go around to the general public and ask we will not recieve. i have even mentioned this to some committe members. some are working hard others need to get off their butts. this time they cannot leave it to the few. the few who have always done the donkey work in the past few years. if we don;t reach the target the committe are responsible as they are the ones who called for the syndicate and therefore are accountable. now take a phot of that one!

red arrow I must admit that I did in my enthusism take a card. I have four lines filled which includes my own name. I have gone to the public but I keep getting the same answer. Red Arrow beat you to it. I think my holiday slipped me up and the fact that we each move in the same circle of friends I suffer because of it.
As for your comment on whose to blame, I can't agree with you on that one my old friend. I sat with you at the AGM and if my memory serves me right you like me had nothing to say during the election of the committee. As silence is a form of agreement then you like me are to blame as to whose running the club. The committee are only there because people like you and I would prefer to have them there rather than do something about changing it. Only when things start to go wrong are the committee to blame. Very seldom do we hear people like you or I heap praise on the same committee when they do something right. Red arrow, my friend, I'd never claim publically or otherwise to be man enough to lace your shoe but I will say I try to do my bit small as it may seem. Maybe if all of us did a wee bit the club we claim to love would not be in the tatterish manner in finds itself, just maybe like knappagh red we have our heads in the sand for too long.

[red arrow]

my apologies to you if i am correct in thinking who you are. i am not hear to make enemies only to try and muster up support for the bit ' o red. i would disagree with one thing that you said and that is in relation to the last agm and subsequent election of committe members. i myself would never contemplate in going forward for election simply because i have not got the time. i have done my bit in the past and will continue to do so. however i feel those who put themselves forward to be elected to the committe are making a statement and that is to commit totally to sligo rovers for whatever period of time they are elected representatives and to help out the club in all manners and means. there are a lot of very hardworking people on that committe but is always the few who do the work . there are some there i l feel who have not got sligo rovers interests totally at heart. some of the things i have being hearing regarding operations and work practise within the club are shocking and if it were a properly run business it would be termed as reckless trading. but this just seems to suit some. the attitude is run it into the ground sure there is always the first division etc. i could go on but i am not at liberty to say. the most important issue for any football club is to strive for success have proper disciplines in place and look at all options that can enhance the club by way of generating finance to lead to that success. but then again there are many obsticles in place at our club and have being deliberately put there. the question is why? we have never been given an answerr to that question. a club with circa 13 acres of land , a prime location etc etc. by the way i sold 5 of six of my syndicate cards outside sligo and got help from some very good people. its all about effort. put in the work you get the reward. i would like to get back to the point in my earlier post regarding the syndicate cards . if there are say 80 in issue those who took them made a commitment to sell them. my point is that a follow up by the elected committe (syndicate committe) to those people should now be in progress to acertain how much money is collected so far. it is only by chasing people and putting them under pressure that results will be got. no point in going to people in the last week because what you will get is a poor return. that is why i am saying hose who took them in the first place have a responsibilty to fill the cards and that includes you clubman. i never commit myself to anything unless i can succeed. there is still time if card holders go around to peoples houses they will get a return , if card holders phone their friends they will get a return. if the syndicate committe let the general publin know what funds are in so far they will get more money in. the target is k130 not once have i heard what has being broughfin so far. people like to hear about figures so that they can help to achieve the target. all this is my opinion. i will be only to delighted and relieved if rovers pull in what they ask for and very satisfied that i was able to help. there still is time but only with a big push. by the way i hope we are still friends!

[Knappagh Red]

Maybe if all of us did a wee bit .

Great idea clubman, did a lightning bolt hit you? Maybe if you spent more time trying to fill your card and less time on here posting clichéd philosophies it would be better for all parties

[clubman]

my apologies to you if i am correct in thinking who you are. i am not hear to make enemies only to try and muster up support for the bit ' o red. i would disagree with one thing that you said and that is in relation to the last agm and subsequent election of committe members. i myself would never contemplate in going forward for election simply because i have not got the time. i have done my bit in the past and will continue to do so. however i feel those who put themselves forward to be elected to the committe are making a statement and that is to commit totally to sligo rovers for whatever period of time they are elected representatives and to help out the club in all manners and means. there are a lot of very hardworking people on that committe but is always the few who do the work . there are some there i l feel who have not got sligo rovers interests totally at heart. some of the things i have being hearing regarding operations and work practise within the club are shocking and if it were a properly run business it would be termed as reckless trading. but this just seems to suit some. the attitude is run it into the ground sure there is always the first division etc. i could go on but i am not at liberty to say. the most important issue for any football club is to strive for success have proper disciplines in place and look at all options that can enhance the club by way of generating finance to lead to that success. but then again there are many obsticles in place at our club and have being deliberately put there. the question is why? we have never been given an answerr to that question. a club with circa 13 acres of land , a prime location etc etc. by the way i sold 5 of six of my syndicate cards outside sligo and got help from some very good people. its all about effort. put in the work you get the reward. i would like to get back to the point in my earlier post regarding the syndicate cards . if there are say 80 in issue those who took them made a commitment to sell them. my point is that a follow up by the elected committe (syndicate committe) to those people should now be in progress to acertain how much money is collected so far. it is only by chasing people and putting them under pressure that results will be got. no point in going to people in the last week because what you will get is a poor return. that is why i am saying hose who took them in the first place have a responsibilty to fill the cards and that includes you clubman. i never commit myself to anything unless i can succeed. there is still time if card holders go around to peoples houses they will get a return , if card holders phone their friends they will get a return. if the syndicate committe let the general publin know what funds are in so far they will get more money in. the target is k130 not once have i heard what has being broughfin so far. people like to hear about figures so that they can help to achieve the target. all this is my opinion. i will be only to delighted and relieved if rovers pull in what they ask for and very satisfied that i was able to help. there still is time but only with a big push. by the way i hope we are still friends!


I'd say of all those that are in any way associated with this forum you, red arrow, win the loyalty card by a mile. As I've said before I am in no way worthy to lace your shoe. I'd very much like to think we are friends as every poor sole at least needs one good friend and in you red arrow I have one of the best. Times as they are it's not unusual for some mud slinging to happen. Your thread though a long one and in many ways true I for one can't totally agree with every aspect of your thinking. I don't think you are fair to the members of the committee whom you seem to judge their performance on fundraising alone. Everyone has a talent, yours my friend is no doubt charming the birds from the trees. Even knappagh red has a talent and that would seem he is a master of time management. Good for him! But we all can't be perfect so back to reality. You're reading of the importance of selling the syndicate cards and more so your thinking that the people that have taken a card have made a commitment to sell it. I think you are very wrong to lay such a pressured responsibility on any volunteer. It's a known fact that the era of the volunteer is/has drawn to an end and the reason for this is because people like your goodself change an injoyable situation into a pressurised situation hence no volunteers. Is it not better to have five people volunteer to fill four lines each of a card than to put pressure on one to fill all of the card? The harvest is indeed very rich my friend but the labourers are very few and those very words were spoken long before the existance of SRFC.
When I took the card I in no way made a committment that I would fill it. I took it with the attitude that I will do my best. If every person had signed the card that I asked then I alone would have brought in the 130K. People like you my friend think Sligo Rovers have a divine right to be in business unfortunately not everyone is of the same frame of mind. When people donate money to a cause (at least people I have approached) they expect to know where the money is going and also they expect to know how much is raised. Knappagh red would define these people to to negative and maybe he's right but I believe people deserve to be told the truth. In the real world there would be a weekly if not daily report on how the fund is progressing. Example; we have 30K collected we need another 100K. Five weeks ago there was an urgency to raise 130K by the end of July or the club would go out of business. Am I, as knappagh red claims, negative if I ask how much has been donated to date?
Of course we're friends red arrow, keep up the great work and keep asking the questions. Unlike knappagh red I don't think seeking the truth is being negative.

[sligoman]

Get a room lads.

[clubman]

Get a room lads.

15k+ posts and that's as constructive you can be?

Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sligo1]

Red Arrow:

That is some achievement in raising that amount of money and I really mean it when I say "Very Well Done". As Clubman said you are near the top if not the top of the league when it comes to loyalty stakes.You make the point that unless everybody gets off their backside and help raise 130,000 by the end of August,Sligo Rovers will not exist as a club-how do you work that out?
In another post,you say the figure is made up of a mixture of old revenue debt,current revenue debt and 3 weeks wages to cover the last 3 weeks of August where we have no game.You say in that post that our weekly wages bill is 15,000 euro while the Club have said our weekly wages bill is 9,000 euro(Irish Independant Survey).As Sligo Rovers have to submitt monthly figures,I would be surprised if they owe any current revenue debt.I'm sure there are other day to day running expenses included in there as well but do we really know what the actual 130,000 euro is for or how it is broken down?
Also lets say the Club raise the money,what do we do for the next 3 months?
What are the Clubs plans?
Last year we had the Vincent Nally Syndicate-it's sole purpose was to raise 60,000 euro to bring any additional players that Paul Cooke identified and to pay their wages-So who exactly did Paul Cooke sign if anybody and where did the balance of that money go?
I remember you saying at the time that the future was rosey etc but it seems a bit like Groundhog Day to me.
You also say that some committee members are not pulling their weight,that some people are holding the Club back for their own Agenda and that there is close to Reckless Trading going on at the Club.
Red Arrow you obviously love the Club but can you not see that there are a few problems need fixing before any more money is thrown into this Black hole that some people know as Sligo Rovers.

Clubman:

You are right when you say that it is easy to criticise when things are not going well.
So why dont you join the Committee and see can you do things differently?

Let's say you are in charge of Sligo Rovers,what are the first 3 things you would change?

D. Brannigan:

Dermott,as PRO of the Club, can you let us know the current situation in relation to the raising of 130,000 euro to Save Sligo Rovers?
How much is raised so far and what are the Club's plans for the remainder of the season?

Anybodyelse:

EGM:
What exactly is the motion up before the Members next week?Will it be passed and if it is,what will it mean for Sligo Rovers?

Carpark:
Should we not try and develop this ourselves?


It appears Sligo Rovers is not run too well.We always seem to hear about the bad things-like the A Team for example-we never seem to hear anything positive about the Club.
Is now the time to stand up and say enough is enough-we want change or do we struggle on from year to year giving out about the Committee etc
I guess at the end of the day it is up to us the supporters to try and sort this out but I guess we will still be giving out this time next year and the year after that.

[brianw82]

Clubman, I can take some lines on your syndicate card. Tried sending you a PM but you don't seem to accept them.
Please let me know via PM and we'll arrange it.

[Redzer]

Anybodyelse:

EGM:
What exactly is the motion up before the Members next week?Will it be passed and if it is,what will it mean for Sligo Rovers?


The EGM is called a ”Special General Meeting” I don’t know if this term has any legal implications for voting, etc?
But the agenda is (1) A discussion on the future direction of the club. (2) Tony McGee’s proposal and (3) AOB.
It’s impossible to say what motions if any, will be put to vote.
Tony McGee’s document was printed in the Champion a while back.
It might be an idea to make a list of questions that people here want asked under AOB.

[sligo1]

Hi Redzer,Thanks for that-Clubman could be right when he said it would be a long night.

I thought the idea of a Special Meeting was to deal with a Specific motion/point-this agenda seems to be very open ended and it probably will go on a while.

Redzer,what exactly is the wording of Tony McGee's proposal?

What I got from the Champion was that Tony McGee or the Club(I forget which) was to introduce/bring on board 5 Businessmen who in turn were going to come up with 100,000 euro each ie 500,000 euro in total.These 5 Businessmen along with 5 of the Present Committee (how do you work out which 5 stays) are to form a new Committee under an Independant new Chairperson who is neither one of the 5 Business people or is neither a member of the Present Committee.How do you find this New Independant Person?

Michael Toolans (Our Present Chairman) take on it is that these 5 Businessmen are going to form a Sub-Committee dealing with Finance, I assume, and that the Present Committee are still going to be in place and still making the decisions.I also assume they are still to put in the 500,000 euro.

In my opinion,there is a Huge Difference between both interprations before a ball is kicked as they say.

Who are these 5 Businessmen with 100,000 each to invest?

As for AOB,well where do you start?

[avvenalaf]

Hi Redzer,Thanks for that-Clubman could be right when he said it would be a long night.

I thought the idea of a Special Meeting was to deal with a Specific motion/point-this agenda seems to be very open ended and it probably will go on a while.

Redzer,what exactly is the wording of Tony McGee's proposal?

What I got from the Champion was that Tony McGee or the Club(I forget which) was to introduce/bring on board 5 Businessmen who in turn were going to come up with 100,000 euro each ie 500,000 euro in total.These 5 Businessmen along with 5 of the Present Committee (how do you work out which 5 stays) are to form a new Committee under an Independant new Chairperson who is neither one of the 5 Business people or is neither a member of the Present Committee.How do you find this New Independant Person?

Michael Toolans (Our Present Chairman) take on it is that these 5 Businessmen are going to form a Sub-Committee dealing with Finance, I assume, and that the Present Committee are still going to be in place and still making the decisions.I also assume they are still to put in the 500,000 euro.

In my opinion,there is a Huge Difference between both interprations before a ball is kicked as they say.

Who are these 5 Businessmen with 100,000 each to invest?

As for AOB,well where do you start?

Exactly -who are these businessmen with 100k to invest. And without trying to be flippant, any businessman with 100k to invest who invests it in Sligo Rovers won't be a businessman much longer. Tony McGee's proposal is total pie in the sky but at least if it is discussed he might go away.
I think what Rovers need to do is work out a budget that includes minimum gate receipts, lotto and normal extra fundraisers like the gold classic and anything the trust might come up with and operate WITHIN that budget. Then we would nat have to be begging from the public every year to keep us afloat and all the signs are that the public is getting fed up with it. If we make more from gate receipts or a cup run that should be put into the development of young players and not thrown on guys with exotic names that can only score in Toffs.

[Redzer]

T O'M proposal is a few pages long and i dont have a scanner. I havn't read it lately. Basically it's more or less as you say. 5 businessmen/5 M C's combination.
But there's no mention of the any amount of money as far as i remember.

[sligo1]

Sorry Redzer,I thought I read somewhere that it was 5 Business People by 100,000 or 100 Business People x 5,000 euro and that the 5 Business People would represent their interests.
I definitely thought exact figures were mentioned somewhere but maybe I'm wrong.

[Redzer]

Sorry Redzer,I thought I read somewhere that it was 5 Business People by 100,000 or 100 Business People x 5,000 euro and that the 5 Business People would represent their interests.
I definitely thought exact figures were mentioned somewhere but maybe I'm wrong.
As far as I remember, I think that was a proposal from Eamonn Cunningham at the AGM.

[redobit]

As far as I remember, I think that was a proposal from Eamonn Cunningham at the AGM.

Correct, im remeber him saying that too.


Exactly -who are these businessmen with 100k to invest. And without trying to be flippant, any businessman with 100k to invest who invests it in Sligo Rovers won't be a businessman much longer. Tony McGee's proposal is total pie in the sky but at least if it is discussed he might go away.
I think what Rovers need to do is work out a budget that includes minimum gate receipts, lotto and normal extra fundraisers like the gold classic and anything the trust might come up with and operate WITHIN that budget. Then we would nat have to be begging from the public every year to keep us afloat and all the signs are that the public is getting fed up with it. If we make more from gate receipts or a cup run that should be put into the development of young players and not thrown on guys with exotic names that can only score in Toffs.

You may be right about Tonys proposal avvenalaf, but surely it has to be worth trying at least, what have we got to loose.

[sligo1]

Hi Redzer,

Was Eamon Cunningham's proposal in conjunction with Tony McGees or were they 2 seperate ones?

Did Eamon Cunningham actually say he would put in 100,000 euro and if he did,were there any conditions?

Hi Redobit,

In relation to Tony McGees proposal,has he actually said I have 5 Business People and they are the following - Mr.A, Mr. B etc or does he still have to go looking for them?
Also who is the Independant Chairperson he has in mind?

[sligoman]

Hi sligo1.

[D Brannigan]

Red Arrow:

That is some achievement in raising that amount of money and I really mean it when I say "Very Well Done". As Clubman said you are near the top if not the top of the league when it comes to loyalty stakes.You make the point that unless everybody gets off their backside and help raise 130,000 by the end of August,Sligo Rovers will not exist as a club-how do you work that out?
In another post,you say the figure is made up of a mixture of old revenue debt,current revenue debt and 3 weeks wages to cover the last 3 weeks of August where we have no game.You say in that post that our weekly wages bill is 15,000 euro while the Club have said our weekly wages bill is 9,000 euro(Irish Independant Survey).As Sligo Rovers have to submitt monthly figures,I would be surprised if they owe any current revenue debt.I'm sure there are other day to day running expenses included in there as well but do we really know what the actual 130,000 euro is for or how it is broken down?
Also lets say the Club raise the money,what do we do for the next 3 months?
What are the Clubs plans?
Last year we had the Vincent Nally Syndicate-it's sole purpose was to raise 60,000 euro to bring any additional players that Paul Cooke identified and to pay their wages-So who exactly did Paul Cooke sign if anybody and where did the balance of that money go?
I remember you saying at the time that the future was rosey etc but it seems a bit like Groundhog Day to me.
You also say that some committee members are not pulling their weight,that some people are holding the Club back for their own Agenda and that there is close to Reckless Trading going on at the Club.
Red Arrow you obviously love the Club but can you not see that there are a few problems need fixing before any more money is thrown into this Black hole that some people know as Sligo Rovers.

Clubman:

You are right when you say that it is easy to criticise when things are not going well.
So why dont you join the Committee and see can you do things differently?

Let's say you are in charge of Sligo Rovers,what are the first 3 things you would change?

D. Brannigan:

Dermott,as PRO of the Club, can you let us know the current situation in relation to the raising of 130,000 euro to Save Sligo Rovers?
How much is raised so far and what are the Club's plans for the remainder of the season?

Anybodyelse:

EGM:
What exactly is the motion up before the Members next week?Will it be passed and if it is,what will it mean for Sligo Rovers?

Carpark:
Should we not try and develop this ourselves?


It appears Sligo Rovers is not run too well.We always seem to hear about the bad things-like the A Team for example-we never seem to hear anything positive about the Club.
Is now the time to stand up and say enough is enough-we want change or do we struggle on from year to year giving out about the Committee etc
I guess at the end of the day it is up to us the supporters to try and sort this out but I guess we will still be giving out this time next year and the year after that.

When the club tells me i will tell you until then give me a call anytime on 08761772295 to talk about anything SRFC related.(before tonights mc meeting 20,000)Further updates to follow.

[sligo1]

So Dermott, who exactly is the "Club" - as a member of the Management Committee, are You not supposed to be running the Club along with the rest of the Management Committee?

I would think that the position of PRO is one of the most Important roles within a Club.The PRO should communicate with the General Public ( ie Your Target Market) on behalf of the Club.

It doesnt give me much confidence in the organisation and structure of the Club, if the PRO of the Club doesnt know what's going on.

So Dermott, who exactly is running the Club if the Management Committee aren't running it?

[Mr A]

In relation to Tony McGees proposal,has he actually said I have 5 Business People and they are the following - Mr.A, Mr. B etc or does he still have to go looking for them?

That part is certainly untrue anyway.

[DRDoc]

Press release
On Tuesday 15th July a meeting of Sligo Rovers members were told of the dire state of the club finances and that the club needed 130,000euro by the end of August to stay in Premier League football to the end of the season.As of Tuesday 12th August the club have raised 32,955euro from all fundraisers to date,24,650euro of this coming from the clubs main fundraising venture in conjunction with the Sligo Weekender the 1000euro syndicates for a prize of a trip to Anfield to see the Liverpool v Manchester Utd game on September 13th with flights,accommodation and transfers included.As i am sure you can see that after almost four weeks having passed and only nineteen days remaining until the end of August we have to double our efforts and with over eighty syndicate cards for sale in Sligo and beyond now is the chance for anyone who wants help the club CAN.All you need to do is contact any member of the management the club office in the Showgrounds between 10am and 2pm on 0719171212.The club would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped the club in this its time of need.THANK YOU.For further information please contact Club Media Officer Dermot Brannigan on 0876172295.

[D Brannigan]

So Dermott, who exactly is the "Club" - as a member of the Management Committee, are You not supposed to be running the Club along with the rest of the Management Committee?

I would think that the position of PRO is one of the most Important roles within a Club.The PRO should communicate with the General Public ( ie Your Target Market) on behalf of the Club.

It doesnt give me much confidence in the organisation and structure of the Club, if the PRO of the Club doesnt know what's going on.

So Dermott, who exactly is running the Club if the Management Committee aren't running it?

I am only one member of the Management Committee and how i find things out is by going to MC meetings where all committee members find out how things are going.And as i told you if you had read my answer to your last post we had a MC meeting tonight and as the club PRO it gives me no pleasure to tell everyone here that after almost four weeks from ALL fundraisers we have raised 32,955euro and with only nineteen days left until the end of the month the least of my worries what you think of me or how the club is been run because believe management committe members are as always working very hard ,and with the help of many people such as yourself and a lot of hard hard work and maybe if people spent more time trying to get people to put their name on a syndicate card at 50euro a line and stopped giving out about people who work hard for your club and mine then maybe just maybe we will survive.

[sligoman]

Press releaseWhere'd you get that from?

[sligo1]

Dermott,Thanks for the update-it wasn't that hard now was it-lets hope we get get an update every week for the next 3 weeks.

Anybody who goes on Committees has to be admired for giving up their free time and all the hassle that goes with it.It is also very easy for people (maybe like me) to give out,criticise or give an opinion on how things should be done but are still not prepared to get directly involved for one reason or another.
But on the other hand Dermott,nobody put a gun to your head and told you to join the Management Committee and become PRO or did they?
You got to take the good times with the bad and obviously this must be one of the bad times.

So lets get back to the Syndicate-you say that if people like me stopped giving out about how our Club is run and put our effort into selling the syndicate cards,then our Club would be saved.

Let me tell you a wee story before I get back to your present syndicate.Last year Vincent Nally came up with the Syndicate idea.The idea was to raise 60,000 euro and that money was to be used to buy players that Paul Cooke would identify in the Transfer Window and help pay their wages.A great fundraising idea(I never heard of it before) and a specific aim.I am a normal guy on just over minimum wage but I thought it was a good idea.I bought 2 lines @ 50 euro each and went to a race night where between buying 2 donkeys between a few friends at the auction and then betting on these donkeys plus their cousins spent another 100 euro approx-so I reckon I contributed to 4 lines.
The syndicate was successful,the money was raised but where did it go?What players did the Club buy and how much did they cost?So Dermott can you help me out on this-maybe the Club bought these players but I cant remember who.

So back to this years crisis-the Club is in trouble again-it needs 130,000 euro before the end of August or it will go out of business(your words).
How exactly is the 130000 euro broken down-lets say 3 weeks wages of 34,500 euro(9000+2500=11,500 x 3=34,500 as per Irish Independant) and lets assume that the Lotto and 400 Club bring in another 2000 euro a week between them(maybe more) which should pay any other weekly bills,what is the difference of approx 100,000 for?
Is it for the old revenue debt?If it is,is that it cleared?
In relation to the Syndicate,who decided on it?Is there somebody in charge of it?
In my opinion the only way to push this is to ring the people who took the cards every second day to see how they are getting on and to encourage them over the finish line.
You are right when you say that we seem to be hitting the same people all the time.Hopefully with a wee push you will achieve your target.

Another small point for you to ponder on-the Club has taken in 24650 euro so far for the syndicate.Lets take out Red Arrows 6,000 euro plus take out the other syndicates that other supporters have done-lets say 8650,then that leaves 10,000 euro raised by the Committee.
Last point Dermott,there are over 30 people on the various Committees involved in Sligo Rovers-that works out at just over 300 euro per Committee Member-maybe you should also focus some of your attention on them and not just on the ordinary supporter.

What are the Club's plans if we dont raise the whole amount?

What are the Club's plans after the end of August-where is the money going to come from for the rest of the season?

Also how do you think Tony McGee's motion will go-maybe he will bring in the money the Club needs.

Dermott,I hope you reach your 130,000 and I dont envy your job for one minute.

[avvenalaf]

Good man, Sligo1. You have the ability to be a total pain in the a rse and I love you for it. Exactly what the club needs - accountability.

[red_away]

Well.....a lot lot more accountability and little less pain in the arse?

[Redzer]

Hi Redzer,

Was Eamon Cunningham's proposal in conjunction with Tony McGees or were they 2 seperate ones?

Did Eamon Cunningham actually say he would put in 100,000 euro and if he did,were there any conditions?

Hi Redobit,

In relation to Tony McGees proposal,has he actually said I have 5 Business People and they are the following - Mr.A, Mr. B etc or does he still have to go looking for them?
Also who is the Independant Chairperson he has in mind?

2 seperate proposals and AFAIK EC did not say he would put any figure towards SR. It never got to the stage of conditions attached, as I dont believe he ever followed up on the idea. At least I never heard.
All TM said was he had a person in mind with political and business interests who would head up the group of 5. Perhaps we will get more info on Tue.
As for the other 4, Who knows?

[roversman]

I am only one member of the Management Committee and how i find things out is by going to MC meetings where all committee members find out how things are going.And as i told you if you had read my answer to your last post we had a MC meeting tonight and as the club PRO it gives me no pleasure to tell everyone here that after almost four weeks from ALL fundraisers we have raised 32,955euro and with only nineteen days left until the end of the month the least of my worries what you think of me or how the club is been run because believe management committe members are as always working very hard ,and with the help of many people such as yourself and a lot of hard hard work and maybe if people spent more time trying to get people to put their name on a syndicate card at 50euro a line and stopped giving out about people who work hard for your club and mine then maybe just maybe we will survive.

well dermott i am a rovers fan for over 30 years and am a season ticket holder
i have never being asked to buy any tickets for any fundraising the club has done during that time. i do buy but the mc should be ringing or calling to all
season tickets holders to see have they bought a ticket .
can everyone please say on here who has being asked in person to buy
ye have to get off yer backsides and get out to the people of sligo

[Jeebus]

well dermott i am a rovers fan for over 30 years and am a season ticket holder
i have never being asked to buy any tickets for any fundraising the club has done during that time. i do buy but the mc should be ringing or calling to all
season tickets holders to see have they bought a ticket .
can everyone please say on here who has being asked in person to buy
ye have to get off yer backsides and get out to the people of sligo

Personally I think that is a shocking attitude to have, anybody that has a season ticket shouldn't be waiting to be asked by the club to buy a ticket/contribute.

Also, have you considered in getting off your backside and assisting in fundraising?

[roversman]

Personally I think that is a shocking attitude to have, anybody that has a season ticket shouldn't be waiting to be asked by the club to buy a ticket/contribute.

Also, have you considered in getting off your backside and assisting in fundraising?

i said i do buy i have to go looking for some seller to get 1 off am saying
they should call everyone as id say there is a few that mightnt buy you have to cover all angles

[dublinred]

I am only one member of the Management Committee and how i find things out is by going to MC meetings where all committee members find out how things are going.And as i told you if you had read my answer to your last post we had a MC meeting tonight and as the club PRO it gives me no pleasure to tell everyone here that after almost four weeks from ALL fundraisers we have raised 32,955euro and with only nineteen days left until the end of the month the least of my worries what you think of me or how the club is been run because believe management committe members are as always working very hard ,and with the help of many people such as yourself and a lot of hard hard work and maybe if people spent more time trying to get people to put their name on a syndicate card at 50euro a line and stopped giving out about people who work hard for your club and mine then maybe just maybe we will survive.

Not looking good 32k in so far and 80 sydicates still out there which if all filled would leave us at 112k more selling required all around.

[neutrino]

I wonder why a thing like a glamour friendly tie wasnt arranged to bring in some cash. I mean if Athlone could arrange getting Sunderland to play them and having on the day events,then why cant we. Surely that would bring in a large chunk of the money required. Every other club seems to know the value of such games.If you had one of these a season it would help the budget.

Alot of work is going into selling syndicates and fare play to everyone organising sales and events to raise money. All we can do is continue to do the best we can and hopefully hit the target. But we have to put some thought into where we go once this has been done. I'd prefer for us to be part-time and building a club than being threatened with our club going bust every few years. The club needs more help in the day-to-day running of the club and I think if a more open approach was fostered then I'm sure we could get the people involved to help us sustain and possible build up the club.

[lifelong rover]

Athlone were given the challange game with Sunderland as a favour by Niall Quinn to a large investor in the club who hails from Athlone. Acording to the local papers in Athlone.

[clubman]

Athlone were given the challange game with Sunderland as a favour by Niall Quinn to a large investor in the club who hails from Athlone. Acording to the local papers in Athlone.

Were there costs/expenses involved in getting this chalange game?
How much profit did da town make from this challange game?

[roversman]

Were there costs/expenses involved in getting this chalange game?
How much profit did da town make from this challange game?

it said on mns that cobh got 100000 from their game

[avvenalaf]

This is great news. Imagine the money we'll make from the United friendly when Seanie Connor takes over at Old Trafford.

[sligo1]

Avvenalaf,

You should set up a Comedy Club and give all proceeds after expenses of course to the Club because you have a mighty sense of humour!!:D

[redobit]

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Another small point for you to ponder on-the Club has taken in 24650 euro so far for the syndicate.Lets take out Red Arrows 6,000 euro plus take out the other syndicates that other supporters have done-lets say 8650,then that leaves 10,000 euro raised by the Committee.
Last point Dermott,there are over 30 people on the various Committees involved in Sligo Rovers-that works out at just over 300 euro per Committee Member-maybe you should also focus some of your attention on them and not just on the ordinary supporter.

I have to say ur on the mark there Sligo1. Me and a friend decided to try and fill a syndicate. We are now into our second syndicate and I can say that at least 80% of the people we have asked are more than willing to give the 50 quid, but have simply not been asked or approched in any way.

It has to be remembered that we only get one oppurtunity at this syndicate, so the people of Sligo should be bombarded with being asked to buy a ticket. Instead the advertising for the syndicate is rubbish and that has to come back to the committee. Can they not get a stand set up on oConnell St. on a Sat for example

[roversman]

I have to say ur on the mark there Sligo1. Me and a friend decided to try and fill a syndicate. We are now into our second syndicate and I can say that at least 80% of the people we have asked are more than willing to give the 50 quid, but have simply not been asked or approched in any way.

It has to be remembered that we only get one oppurtunity at this syndicate, so the people of Sligo should be bombarded with being asked to buy a ticket. Instead the advertising for the syndicate is rubbish and that has to come back to the committee. Can they not get a stand set up on oConnell St. on a Sat for example[/QUOTE]

thats what i said and the mc should be doing it getting out and asking people
they want the fans to do all the hard work and sit back and cry poverty