Guardian blog on Drogheda

[WoodquayBoy]

Guardian website has a blog on Drogheda today
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/08/06/united_they_stand.html

[jebus]

Guardian website has a blog on Drogheda today
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/08/06/united_they_stand.html

Jesus, they seem to be given the LoI more coverage than our nationals these days

[WoodquayBoy]

I know, we played a League Cup SEMI FINAL on Monday night, and do you think the Times bothered to carry even the result, never mind a match report? Not on your nelly. They had plenty of space to dedicate to Michael Vaughan's decision to step down as ENGLAND CRICKET captain miod you

[Mr A]

About bloody time too. That performance against South Africa was a shambles.

[kingdomkerry]

Very positive article. Our media seem to want to concentrate on the negatives.

[kingdomkerry]

The Hearld has an article on page 93 of the match last night between Bohs and Rovers. You would need a magnifying glass to see it though.

[Red&White Rover]

AKAIK a lot of the lads that work on the football for the Guardian are Irish or of Irish kin, hence a decent amount of coverage towards Irsh related football matters...

[A face]

Guardian website has a blog on Drogheda today
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/08/06/united_they_stand.html

Robin Lynch of the Guardian you say? Good find there, very good article and i'd agree, a far better read than anything you read on this side of the water.


I know, we played a League Cup SEMI FINAL on Monday night, and do you think the Times bothered to carry even the result, never mind a match report? Not on your nelly. They had plenty of space to dedicate to Michael Vaughan's decision to step down as ENGLAND CRICKET captain miod you

Sure thats it in a nutshell .... the Times isn't even worth talking about these days. They report on stuff thousands of miles away and you wouldn't know what goes on down the road. Shoddy lazy journalism = The Times

[pete]

Sure thats it in a nutshell .... the Times isn't even worth talking about these days. They report on stuff thousands of miles away and you wouldn't know what goes on down the road. Shoddy lazy journalism = The Times

Do you mean the English or Irish Times?

Very good article in the Irish Times (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2008/0805/1217628552618.html)

[superfrank]

I'd say one of the reasons the Irish Times didn't have a match report is because Emmet Malone, their only football correspondent, is probably over in Kiev for the match tonight.

In fairness to RTE, they gave a fiarly decent preview to the match last night on the 6.1.

[Dodge]

AKAIK a lot of the lads that work on the football for the Guardian are Irish or of Irish kin, hence a decent amount of coverage towards Irsh related football matters...

Most of the lads who write the Fiver are defiitely Irish. Seem to have half an interest in our elague too. They usually blog big games and makes for entertaining fare when stuck in work with no access to tv/radio

[Sheridan]

I find it tedious, laddish tripe designed to mask their lack of knowledge of the game itself, personally. The Irish lads are the worst for it.

[Dodge]

I find it tedious, laddish tripe designed to mask their lack of knowledge of the game itself, personally. The Irish lads are the worst for it.

In fairness they never actually try and hide their lack of knowledge, and certainly don't attempt to bring any insight to the actual game.

[WoodquayBoy]

I'd say one of the reasons the Irish Times didn't have a match report is because Emmet Malone, their only football correspondent, is probably over in Kiev for the match tonight..
Do they not have more than 1 soccer journo - how do they cover more than 1 league match per night on Fridays if Malone is their only soccer writer? Just plain disinterested, though I do agree with earlier poster, England's collapse in both tests against South Afdrica did warrant serious scrutinty. Ahem.

[WoodquayBoy]

Do you mean the English or Irish Times?

Very good article in the Irish Times (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2008/0805/1217628552618.html)
I was talking about the Irish Times, why would I mean the English Times? And while that is a good article, where does it include result/report of the League Cup semi-final?

[Tir Oilean]

its often the same report reworded for a different paper. Last week the report on the Finn Harps Galway United game from the Star was also in the Times with the words changed about......if they were in journo school they wouldve been done for cogging the homework.

[Macy]

its often the same report reworded for a different paper. Last week the report on the Finn Harps Galway United game from the Star was also in the Times with the words changed about......if they were in journo school they wouldve been done for cogging the homework.
Probably the same freelancer, but different editing. That'd be the least of the issues with the papers tbh.

[pete]

I was talking about the Irish Times, why would I mean the English Times? And while that is a good article, where does it include result/report of the League Cup semi-final?

Sunday (english) Times.

I think the IT had a report on the League Cup yesterday or maybe I am confusing with the Indo. I definitely was in a broadsheet I looked at yesterday & we usually get the tabloid Indo at work...

[NeilMcD]

Great quote.

"At the moment our budget is €3m a year," he says. "If you look at the Premier League in England, with all due respect, Stoke City or Sunderland couldn't buy a left-back for that kind of money and they'll never get near the Champions League. That's the potential in this country."

[hedderman]

Do they not have more than 1 soccer journo - how do they cover more than 1 league match per night on Fridays if Malone is their only soccer writer? Just plain disinterested, though I do agree with earlier poster, England's collapse in both tests against South Afdrica did warrant serious scrutinty. Ahem.

The only bylines I see in the Irish Times are Emmet Malone and Paul Buttner. I'd say they probably just buy in reports from freelancers from the others.

Given that the Irish Times is "the paper of record," I find their coverage of the League of Ireland to be completely unacceptable. Emmett Malone writes a frequently excellent column on a Tuesday (which is linked in this thread) but it was missing from the paper during two weeks in July. During one of those weeks 3 Irish teams were playing in Europe:eek:. During the Premiership season, they had a weeking general EPL column from Andrew Fifield (of the Guardian I think). Also, Michael Walker wrote a weekly column exclusively about Sunderland entitled "A Year on the Wear."

I don't think it's good enough that the Irish Times can devote the same amount of coverage to one Premership club (Sunderland) as to whole of Irish football and I intend to make my views known to Emmet Malone. His email address frequently appears at the end of his Tuesday column.

Regarding the Galway-Derry league cup semi-final, I can confirm that they didn't carry a report on the game (or even a scoreline as far as I recall).

I suppose you could argue that very few Irish Times readers are interested in the LoI and that's it's also symptomatic of the failure of the LoI (for a number of reasons, especially poor quality stadia) to attract business people etc. to matches.

[fergalr]

Mods - can you help me understand why this thread stays in the main forum whereas this one got relegated to the Clubs section? http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=96676