Sligo Rovers Chairman

[red_away]

I see from the irish indo today that there was unrest at the Bohs meeting last night!!

Some members stated that the club was being put in financial danger as its wage bill equals 95% of income!!!

If the members admit this themselves how come the league authorities can impose sanctions to uphold the salary cap????

[avvenalaf]

I see from the irish indo today that there was unrest at the Bohs meeting last night!!

Some members stated that the club was being put in financial danger as its wage bill equals 95% of income!!!



If the members admit this themselves how come the league authorities can impose sanctions to uphold the salary cap????

Read it again.

[red_away]

Why would i read it again?

[avvenalaf]

Why would i read it again?

Arrah, go on, just for the craic. You know you want to.

[red_away]

Unfortunately, (todays indo) As stated by many here before we are not the only ones with financial woes and more will appear as the economy tightens!!

SOCCER: The fate of Cork City hangs in the balance this morning after the debt-ridden club admitted they face big decisions about their long-term future, WRITES DANIEL McDONNELL.

It is understood that Cork have accumulated debts of about €800,000, and owners Arkaga are seriously considering their involvement with the club.

Cork City are thought to be considering the possibility of applying for examinership through the High Court. Entering receivership or even going into liquidation was also mooted by Leeside sources yesterday.

FAI authorities have contacted Arkaga regarding "a written undertaking made by one of its companies to guarantee all liabilities arising from Cork City Investment FC Ltd for a 12-month period from January 29, 2008 through to January 29, 2009".

[Redzer]

What a disgrace. Blaming Sligo's financial woes and his woeful budgeting on Summer soccer.

Pleading for a return to Winter football on Six one neas. :rolleyes: When the evidence suggests that attendances are up (albeit marginally).

Talk about trying to deflect blame from himself.

It's not funny, but :o these carkies

Well at least our chairman didn't run away;)

[dublinred]

Prophet


It's funny to see the common thread of Cork fans going on about proper running of clubs. During the existence of Sligo Rovers, how many teams have disappeared in the city with the second-largest population in the country? Not to mention Cork losing one of the country's best soccer grounds, followed by the Bishopstown debacle. Only last season there was plenty of crying about taxes owed and the danger to the existence of the club in the post-fish & chips man era. And in recent days it's been suggested that Arkaga will take their ball and go home if Drury doesn't get his way.

[Fivesilver]

Excuse me while I die of smugness. :D

[Shiba]

And if all of them ran their clubs properly......

:D:D:D

But really the whole situation aint funny!

Summer Football or Club not ran properly? Which is it?

[sullanefc]

It's not funny, but :o these carkies

Well at least our chairman didn't run away;)


Excuse me while I die of smugness.


:D

But really the whole situation aint funny!

Summer Football or Club not ran properly? Which is it?

Ok, I slagged off the Sligo chairman for blaming Summer football and their ills. Surely you should only spend money you have right?? So I stand by my original post that the Sligo chairman is an idiot.

On to Cork City. When Arkaga came on board, they promised to write off €1m every year and to build a new stadium. Now if you believe the figures, we are currently €800k in debt and Arkaga are not paying up. It p!sses me off, but it is not a similar situation to Sligo.

Nowhere in this thread did I take pleasure in Sligo's situation. I simply pointed out the stupidity of your chariman. In a similar way, you could go on about us being stabbed in the back by our owners.

We are both in trouble, which is sad. But instead of point scoring, try not to lose sight of the fact of who's fault it is. The sligo board and Arkaga. It is not the fault of Summer soccer, or the AIL not going ahead.

[avvenalaf]

In the case of Sligo Rovers, summer soccer is about 75% of the reason. It is not for no reason that part of the Platinum proposal is an immediate return to winter soccer.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Ok, I slagged off the Sligo chairman for blaming Summer football and their ills. Surely you should only spend money you have right?? So I stand by my original post that the Sligo chairman is an idiot.

On to Cork City. When Arkaga came on board, they promised to write off €1m every year and to build a new stadium. Now if you believe the figures, we are currently €800k in debt and Arkaga are not paying up. It p!sses me off, but it is not a similar situation to Sligo.

Nowhere in this thread did I take pleasure in Sligo's situation. I simply pointed out the stupidity of your chariman. In a similar way, you could go on about us being stabbed in the back by our owners.

We are both in trouble, which is sad. But instead of point scoring, try not to lose sight of the fact of who's fault it is. The sligo board and Arkaga. It is not the fault of Summer soccer, or the AIL not going ahead.

Going by the above I would have to say that your chairman is a flippin idiot if he didn't think this situation may materialize.

[clubman]

Ok, I slagged off the Sligo chairman for blaming Summer football and their ills. Surely you should only spend money you have right?? So I stand by my original post that the Sligo chairman is an idiot.

On to Cork City. When Arkaga came on board, they promised to write off €1m every year and to build a new stadium. Now if you believe the figures, we are currently €800k in debt and Arkaga are not paying up. It p!sses me off, but it is not a similar situation to Sligo.

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Sullanefc - you like to contradict yourself don't you?
You call our chairman an idiot and then go on to explain why it's you that's the idiot.
"surely you should only spend money you have right??"
Your quote not mine!
Are Cork City working off your theory when they find themselves 800K in dept? Obviousily not!
I'll not try and hazard a guess as to how much it will cost City to operate this season. Whatever the cost may be I can gurantee you that they didn't have the money at the start of the season so in order for them to operate they had to 'spend money they didn't have'. I presume that meets your criteria as being idiots?
No club in the Eircom League or any league for that matter starts out the season with the required funds to get them through the season. Football is a gamble both on and off the pitch. When a team is successful on the pitch everything is rosy. Attendances are up, sponsorship is up, everyone wants to be involved. Very few teams starting out a season can be sure of success, not even Cork City!
For you to call someone an idiot because he or she shows as much passion for their club as you obviously have for yours is totally unfair. At our club not many people can claim to be as passionate as our chairman. The man may have his faults but hey who doesn't. Every club has a chairman who shows an equal passion for their club. Every club finds themselves looking at a negative balance sheet each week. Some clubs like Cork City have sugerdaddys that bale the club out each week. The clubs that don't have the sugerdaddy have to operate on a much tighter budget and the fact that they stay in business at all proves that they must be doing something right. Certainly doesn't imply that they are headed up by idiots now does it?
Your problem is that the board of Cork City got into bed with Arkaga and one partner didn't perform. You're p1ssed off because of this. You look around the league and see all other clubs have their problems too. A club like ours that try and do everything above board and operate as a complete football club run by the community is an easy target for you. You'd have no comprehension of what's it's like to be involved with such a football club. You are looking in from the outside not only at our club but your own. You have absolutely no say in who the next (if there is one) bed partner your board will decide on and I suppose if I'm honest that would p1ss me off too. But because you find yourself on the outside looking in doesn't give you any right to look beyond your own prediciment and start bad mouthing other people. Concentrate on your own problems and hopefully things will work out for City as I've a soft spot for your club. It's people like you that gives clubs a bad name.

[red_away]

At least we know our chairman and board from what i can make out there is a fair share of ambiguity about who is who at CCFC?

[dublinred]

It's not funny, but :o these carkies

Well at least our chairman didn't run away;)

Good point , at one stage Cork were considering examinership which involves screwing your creditors , revenue and anyone else that they owe money to and starting again , surely there are enough people in Cork to find 800k and get the show back on the road again.

[Rovers1]

At least we know our chairman and board from what i can make out there is a fair share of ambiguity about who is who at CCFC?

good point, thats what worries me. Thats why if Tony McGee's proposal went ahead, the fact that we would be run by businessmen, whom, must surely know, running SRFC, theyre not gonna get much of a profit back(even though we'd probably know who these businessmen were). As red away said CCFC seems to be run by faceless directors, dont know if id feel to good about that.

[neutrino]

good point, thats what worries me. Thats why if Tony McGee's proposal went ahead, the fact that we would be run by businessmen, whom, must surely know, running SRFC, theyre not gonna get much of a profit back(even though we'd probably know who these businessmen were). As red away said CCFC seems to be run by faceless directors, dont know if id feel to good about that.

any businessman coming into rovers would not be in it for profit.

[Rovers1]

any businessman coming into rovers would not be in it for profit.

thats what i would hope, yes ;)

[red_away]

CCFC went into examinership yesterday.....we are still fighting!!!!!!

[Patrick Dunne]

All your small local creditors (bus companies, laundry, office supplies, catering) will now be shafted.

[red_away]

You mean Cork's small creditors - we will be paying ours!

[red_away]

I understand that the EGM was on last nite - poor turnout!

The Tony McGee proposal was put forward, i hope its a good one and that it doesnt cause all the good work by the fundraisers to be undermined by people slipping back into the comfort zone thinking everything will be alright.

I look forward to the details of the masterplan!

[avvenalaf]

I understand that the EGM was on last nite - poor turnout!

The Tony McGee proposal was put forward, i hope its a good one and that it doesnt cause all the good work by the fundraisers to be undermined by people slipping back into the comfort zone thinking everything will be alright.
I look forward to the details of the masterplan!

What good work by the fund raisers?. The club needs 130k by end of August and it seems that about 35k has been raised. I'm not denouncing the efforts of those who have raised that, indeed they are to be lauded, but put that fact along with the small turnout at the egm and you come up with the inescapable conclusion that there is severe donor fatigue out there.
Paul Cook, in his interview, hit the nail on the head when he said that Sligo Rovers would continue but not in it's present format and it's time that the club faced up to this and addressed the public accordingly.
Tony McGee's sincerely meant proposal is pie in the sky. We cannot talk of businessmen investing in this or any other Irish club. if they do, they are donors, not businessmen, because this is not, nor can it ever be, a business model.
What we need to do now is to state that we are going to operate within a preset annual budget and we will play at whatever level that budget allows. We need to have, as a mantra, that we will seek to play good football at all times and that we will develop local talent with that in mind. if we can use 5/6 fulltime players and a full time manager within that budget, well and good but I would suggest that at least one of those players is also a youth coach.
A number of people I have spoken to and who would fall into the hardcore category have expressed a wish not to be asked to bail out the club in the future and it is time the club began acting in a responsible fashion.

Rant will continue when grandchild is finished on hobby horse.

[red_away]

I was aplauding those who are fundraising - whom should be applauded - those who are not fundraising do not matter much in this process!!!

Small numbers attending may have been down to short notice, mid week, little publicity - i know 4 people who have a right to attend but couldnt but would have liked to!

As for hardcore supporters not wanting to be asked for assistance any more?

I think the phrase is "Fickle Fans" - this club like all EL clubs will need constant assistance and we wont get away from the foreseeable future?

[Rovers1]

All your small local creditors (bus companies, laundry, office supplies, catering) will now be shafted.

you just worry about getting racism out of yer club and we'll worry about our "small creditors"

[Patrick Dunne]

I was talking about Cork City.

[Rovers1]

I was talking about Cork City.

then why are you posting on a Sligo Rovers forum?. and when you said "your" i assumed you meant "Us"

[srfc1928]

All your small local creditors (bus companies, laundry, office supplies, catering) will now be shafted.
wow, wouldnt you love to see that happen patrick,
Sligo Rovers unable to pay its bills and go out of business.
Your out of line posting that on this forum.
maybe you should go else where and spread your bitterness somewhere else because its not appreciated here.

[brianw82]

As for hardcore supporters not wanting to be asked for assistance any more?

I think the phrase is "Fickle Fans" - this club like all EL clubs will need constant assistance and we wont get away from the foreseeable future?

I don't think anyone is complaining about regular fundraisers like the lotto, legends games, friendlies, race nights etc. These should be used as 'top-ups', and people are generally ok with them. It's an accepted fact that they are necessary for a lot of teams to make ends meet.

I believe what was meant by the above statement is that the hardcore fans don't want to have to save the club from extinction again by being asked to raise X amount of money in 6 weeks like we have to do right now.

[Red&White Rover]

I was talking about Cork City.

Well maybe you'd be better off posting it on the Cork City forum instead of making absolutely zero contribution to this thread.