Racism.....

[Jeff Jefty Jeff]

Just a quick question, as I know virtually nothing about football in the Republic of Ireland:

Is racism a problem in the Irish game? Is there a sectarian problem?

Cheers,

Jeff

[wws]

not on any organised basis no

[tiktok]

There's always a moron or two per club who will throw our racist chants to 'impress' their mates, i can only talk about cork city games, but they are almost always told to shut up and stop being idiots.

Derry city get 'what's it like to have a queen' chants, which i guess could be deemed sectarian, but this is pretty rare and usually again the morons who don't know what derry went through up north before joining (and improving) our league.

[TheRealRovers]

Never see any racism their is a bit sectarian chanting with ex Linfield players not to big of a problem.

[Colm]

Originally posted by tiktok
Derry city get 'what's it like to have a queen' chants, which i guess could be deemed sectarian, but this is pretty rare and usually again the morons who don't know what derry went through up north before joining (and improving) our league.

I don't think there's anything sectarian or malicious whatsoever about that Tiktok, it merely something which winds the opposition up, same as calling Rovers homeless (altough undoubtably there's more malicious intent in that).

[Estar]

Originally posted by Jeff Jefty Jeff
Is racism a problem in the Irish game? Is there a sectarian problem?

Jeff

I have lived in London for a number of years, where Raism is more or less accepted. Racism as far as Kildare County is concerned does not exist, you do get the ref is a ****er etc, which comes from 12/13 year olds from watching sky. Kildare County is more or less a family club, you can see babies at matches.:cool:

[tiktok]

yeah colm, i think you're right, i was just stretching for an example to be honest and it was all i could come up with. thankfully sectarianism and racism isn't a problem in the EL, long may that continue.

[A face]

Originally posted by tiktok
yeah colm, i think you're right, i was just stretching for an example to be honest and it was all i could come up with. thankfully sectarianism and racism isn't a problem in the EL, long may that continue.

Hear hear !!

[Mick89]

Originally posted by tiktok
Derry city get 'what's it like to have a queen' chants, which i guess could be deemed sectarian, but this is pretty rare and usually again the morons who don't know what derry went through up north before joining (and improving) our league.

This chant really annoys the feck out of me, I mean do ye not know what we went through?...Cross dressing was the only way to survive the war, although some did come to enjoy it. Plus Shirley Temple Bar is on RTE not BBC....

[Jeff Jefty Jeff]

Thanks for the information. So, here's another quick question, out of interest. What does the Eircom League lack that Premier League football provides (apart from matches throughout the winter)? Also, out of all you supporters out there who have read this or have already replied, do you support a team in another country, like a Premier League or Scottish Premier League club?

[wws]

as someone who cant afford to go to england every week the english premier league has nothing to offer me as I need to be part of a live football crowd for my footballing fix, preferably a pats crowd for a bit of a laugh

sky sports et al is just a sit down sport, some like that sorta thing, not my cup of tea

[Macy]

I support United, but I was brought up in Manchester and had a season ticket in the stretty and was home and away before I came over..... Try and get back 2 or 3 times a season, but that'll probably go up now with the winter close season here......

[Slash/ED]

I have Sky in my house so when there's a match on I'll watch it, I like to follow the English game to follow the Irish national teams players, I don't think that interferes with following Shels, different days and now different times of the year.

As for what the premiership lacks that the EL has, atmosphere would be the main thing, espically for the clubs with Tiffo groups. That's the kind of thing that's unique to here when compared to the English league., and obviously just going to matches rather then watching them on TV is a unique experience in itself.

[Jeff Jefty Jeff]

Excuse my ignorance, but what does Tiffo mean?

[Slash/ED]

The Tiffo groups do the huge fans display you'll see at some groups, normally they get get huge Serie A style flags and banners and the like to put a fans display on before the matches and to try and get as much colour as possible, I'm sure someone could explain it better then me mind but that's pretty much it.

[Macy]

Originally posted by Slash/ED
As for what the premiership lacks that the EL has, atmosphere would be the main thing, espically for the clubs with Tiffo groups. That's the kind of thing that's unique to here when compared to the English league., and obviously just going to matches rather then watching them on TV is a unique experience in itself.
While I'd agree with the going to a live match, the whole atmosphere is a bit of misnomer.....

All ticket, all seaters are the main problem in england, and the pricing out of the game of the hard core. Having said that United now have a singing section, and up there (as the plc put it in the second tier) the atmosphere is better than anything I've seen here (sorry to those that offends)... Although still not as good as the Stretty/ United Road of old...

On the whole tifo thing - I knew of a lad who brought a flare to a United game - the dibble did charged him for firearm offences (SEI be warned)!!!!

btw Tifo is an italian crowd who supply flares, smoke bombs etc etc... I think tifo.it is their website...

[dahamsta]

Inane Fact of the Day: The word 'tifo' comes from 'tifosi', the insane Italian Ferrari GP fans.

adam

[Dodge]

No, tifosi is the generic word used to describe all "insane" italian fans, there are Juventus tifosi, just like there are Ferrari tifosi... its just that the British media know it best from the Ferrari example

[wws]

Originally posted by Macy
While I'd agree with the going to a live match, the whole atmosphere is a bit of misnomer.....

All ticket, all seaters are the main problem in england, and the pricing out of the game of the hard core. Having said that United now have a singing section, and up there (as the plc put it in the second tier) the atmosphere is better than anything I've seen here (sorry to those that offends)... Although still not as good as the Stretty/ United Road of old...

On the whole tifo thing - I knew of a lad who brought a flare to a United game - the dibble did charged him for firearm offences (SEI be warned)!!!!

btw Tifo is an italian crowd who supply flares, smoke bombs etc etc... I think tifo.it is their website...


i personally wouldnt say the atmosphere is better its just that the atmosphere for most irish based fans of the english league is just the pub atmosphere of watchin it on sky, everytime I'll pass on this thanks

also the craic wouldnt be as good in any case in england as

a)its not local for me
b) i wouldnt get the in-jokes/banter
c)the game is too big and corporate over there for any real craic and many of their real fans complain that it has been poncified by big business and family nonsense


thats all I feel - could be way off havent been to agame over there in years

[TheRealRovers]

Also, out of all you supporters out there who have read this or have already replied, do you support a team in another country, like a Premier League or Scottish Premier League club?

No. I'm Rovers till I die. No one else but Rovers I hate the english Premier League

[Pablo Escobar]

Originally posted by Jeff Jefty Jeff
Thanks for the information. So, here's another quick question, out of interest. What does the Eircom League lack that Premier League football provides (apart from matches throughout the winter)? Also, out of all you supporters out there who have read this or have already replied, do you support a team in another country, like a Premier League or Scottish Premier League club?
You seem fairly interested!
If you are from/living in Ireland, you really don't no what your missing!

Why not turn up at an EL game before the end of the season and judge for yourself, as far as I know it's legal to support an Irish Club!

The Premiersh1t means nothing to me!

[tiktok]

Originally posted by Pablo Escobar
it's legal to support an Irish Club!


Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Its also legal to watch paint dry and grass grow....;)

and since Silvio believes Celtic to be an 'Irish Club' he must finally have become aware that the scottish league is boring:D :D

[sadloserkid]

Hmm. slk likes football. slk also finds football to be more interesting if you have some kind of a vested interest. His favouritest team in the whole wide world by the proverbial country mile are Limerick. However he also watches out for the results of several other teams, including but not limited to Aston Villa (lots of Irish players when slk was a nipper), Bolton Wanderers (Ex-Limerick boss), Celtic (slk doesn't think they're Irish but fúck it, they try to be! :D), Sampdoria (ah the pain of relegation...), Real Madrid (in my warped little mind, Real were proud to be Spanish like nationalists are proud to be Irish while filthy Barca are like Unionists pretending not to belong) and amongst others Benfica, Monaco, KV Mechelen, Ajax and so on and so on. None of these teams come between me and my weekly Limerick fix though I'm planning trips to Parkhead, Easter Road, Goodison Park and possibly Hillsborough this season. I also pop along to Turners Cross and occasionally Terryland Park when possible.

Football is round. And they're equally round in England and Armenia too!

I still prefer Irish balls though! ;)

[sadloserkid]

Originally posted by Conor74
What the f...?

Completely the other way round.

I know that now Conor! I didn't when I was 6.

[Schumi]

Originally posted by Conor74
I suspect Catalan in Barca might be stronger than spoken Irish in Derry But not as widely as spoken Derryish in Derry which doesn't seem to bear much relation to English as spoken in the rest of the country!

[sadloserkid]

Actually hand on heart when we walked into our first pub in Derry (with our nice blue scarves remember, after hours of abuse from maggots who thought we were Rangers/Linfielders looking to start something) I had no idea what the first guy who spoke to me said. Though it turned out he knew we were from Limerick and he wanted to buy me a drink! Ah what a night, Derry folk are great once they know you're not really blue - I didn't buy a pint of 7-Up all night! :D

[Schumi]

:) We got the opposite (also in blue don't forget); as we were walking up towards the Derry fans' bar, someone shouted "Provo w@nkers" at us. What with coming to the massive peace-line wall about a minute later, it wasn't the best introduction to the town. The Derry fans were as sound as they come though.

[BanagherOK!]

I like watching the English premiership teams on Sky (the top six that is) but no one comes before Celtic,,,if you think you were treated well in Derry you should try a trip to Parkhead or join the Celtic support on a european away game,,no better place if your Irish.

[MariborKev]

Originally posted by Conor74
(though I suspect Catalan in Barca might be stronger than spoken Irish in Derry),

According to the last government survey- 30% of the population can speak Irish

[MariborKev]

Originally posted by BanagherOK!
if you think you were treated well in Derry you should try a trip to Parkhead or join the Celtic support on a european away game,,no better place if your Irish.

maybe i'm mad but I would tend to think that an Ireland away trip would beat that

[CollegeTillIDie]

Well organised or not , Racism in any shape or form at Eircom League games is totally unacceptable. Players such as Mark Rutherford , Mbabzi Livingston and Wes Charles have enhanced the game in this country.

When Jason Sherlock played for UCD he used to received terrible abuse especially from the Shed in Turners Cross. That was and is totally unacceptable. Just because he was a Northside Dubliner!

Equality includes Dubliners , Northside Dubliners and people from Finglas too. :D

[dortie]

Originally posted by Maribor
According to the last government survey- 30% of the population can speak Irish

Too true Maribor...in fact there is now 7 Irish pre-school nurserys in Derry so that figure will rise in the next 10 years.

And Schumi......any wonder you got that ....you practically walked through the only protestant estate in the Cityside ya mad fecker. Not the best short cut to the Oakgrove

:D

[Schumi]

Originally posted by dortie
And Schumi......any wonder you got that ....you practically walked through the only protestant estate in the Cityside ya mad fecker. Not the best short cut to the Oakgrove

:D I see. I must remember not to go that way again, if only I could remember what way we went that time!

They should make these things more obvious, paint the road blue white and red or something!