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Da Real Rover
24/05/2008, 1:08 PM
American Presidential hopeful, John McCain has now rejected the public endorsement by the Reverend John Hagee. The controversial Preacher, gave McCain's bid for the Presidency his endorsement in February of this year.

Hagee has often courted extreme right-wing views, such as his refference to the Catholic Church as; 'the great whore', and the Church's support for Hitler during the Thirties. He also blamed; 'Hurricane Katrina retribution for homosexual sin'.

Hagee claimed yesterday that; 'God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews return to Israel. Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun, and he forces you.....Hitler was a hunter ... How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said, 'My top priority for the Jewish people and get them back to the land of Israel'.

Following the recent resignations of five McCain senior advisors over lobbying and conflict of interest issues, this festering wound could have long-term consequences come November........?

strangeirish
24/05/2008, 1:59 PM
The neocons continue to align themselves with this whack job and his ilk. Old doc here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig)
And people wonder what's wrong with the US. The sooner people over here realize that this guy is a vile man who rips off his naive flock for millions of dollars, the better off the country will be.

pete
26/05/2008, 2:06 PM
Brilliant politics from the neocons. Bush junior would not been elected without the far right but once in power he largely ignored them with few crumbs from the table.

I can't see McCain winning as he has aligned himself with Bush who is very unpopular. How can McCain winning promising more of the same? :confused:

strangeirish
26/05/2008, 2:11 PM
Well, if Faux News has their way, McCain may be the only one left! Check this out.
Shocking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0)

Da Real Rover
27/05/2008, 7:11 PM
Brilliant politics from the neocons. Bush junior would not been elected without the far right but once in power he largely ignored them with few crumbs from the table.


Not true.
Bush has pursued some very far right policies.
Such as the rolling back of Gay Rights, Stem Cell research and the appointment to the supreme court of some major right wing figures. Hardly crumbs fom the table.

pete
27/05/2008, 7:21 PM
Not true.
Bush has pursued some very far right policies.
Such as the rolling back of Gay Rights, Stem Cell research and the appointment to the supreme court of some major right wing figures. Hardly crumbs fom the table.

Republicans don't usually back gay rights & afaik no federal laws one way or the other even though Bush did talk up a referendum. I'll give you the stem cells issue as nothing anti-Republican in that. The Republicans are conservative by nature so not entirely convinced the two Supreme court appointments far right.

Considering Bush would not have been elected without the religious right (especially the second time) he hasn't listened to them too much. No change to abortion or gay rights at federal level which I presume their big issues.

dancinpants
29/05/2008, 5:11 PM
Pete, I take it you're unaware of the billions of dollars spent on "Faith Based Initiatives"? :confused: Trust me the Christian fundamentalists were far from ignored by the current administration.

Interesting point on the Hagee issue. When it was just his opinions on the Catholic Church out there it was fine, nothing wrong. But Hagee just become a problem when he mentioned the Jews :rolleyes:

The media is funny in their blatent double standards. When you look at how long Obama was dragged through the coals over Rev Wright...and already the Hagee thing (especially given his views on Katrina) has dropped off the media radar. :rolleyes:

pete
30/05/2008, 12:28 PM
Pete, I take it you're unaware of the billions of dollars spent on "Faith Based Initiatives"? :confused: Trust me the Christian fundamentalists were far from ignored by the current administration.


I actually meant to mention that. Surely not billions though?

I agree though that say McCain would not fund them as not a traditional Republican value.