If Only............

[luka]

See the Bohs Supporters Club have themselves pretty well organised

http://www.bohemians.ie/index.php/supporters/cobhbus.htm


If only...................

[6yardpunisha]

See the Bohs Supporters Club have themselves pretty well organised

http://www.bohemians.ie/index.php/supporters/cobhbus.htm


If only...................


Stop winding us up now Luka:D

[luka]

Stop winding us up now Luka:D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :D

[rambler14]

Print it off and hand it to a member of the Supporters Club and show them how a good SC is run.
The people who are travelling to the matches are starting to get irritated by the supporters having to use their own cars constantly. 9 games in and still no bus has been run.

One guy who has been at most of the matches this year was going to some meeting last night to complain about the situation.(Don't know whether it was SC or Club Commitee meeting, but he was going to ask for buses and if he wasn't satisified he was going to ask for the SC to be disbanded and for them to start again)..........saying that I must give him a ring.

[6yardpunisha]

See the Bohs Supporters Club have themselves pretty well organised

http://www.bohemians.ie/index.php/supporters/cobhbus.htm


If only...................


how about we split the eircom league up between us to find out exactly waht each clubs SC's do for their fans in terms of buses/events etc, we might be being a bit hard on our own one but this is a way of finding out. Anyone agree

[Comic Book Guy]

Lads, plain and simple, WHY not join the SC? Get involved. Remember the SC are the ones who have stumped up €100k for the new stand, otherwise it would never have been finished. Remember too these guys are giving up their spare time to go out and sell lotto tickets which is funding the stand, so Iwould say that the stand is their No.1 priority.
If you are so keen on busses WHY NOT ORGANISE ONE YOURSELF. There is a
thread elsewhere about apppeals for help which despite initial enthusiasm have fallen on deaf ears.

[luka]

Aren't busses usually organised by Supporters Clubs though? That's a question and not a statement, just so we're clear.

[rambler14]

Lads, plain and simple, WHY not join the SC? Get involved. Remember the SC are the ones who have stumped up €100k for the new stand, otherwise it would never have been finished. Remember too these guys are giving up their spare time to go out and sell lotto tickets which is funding the stand, so Iwould say that the stand is their No.1 priority.
If you are so keen on busses WHY NOT ORGANISE ONE YOURSELF. There is a
thread elsewhere about apppeals for help which despite initial enthusiasm have fallen on deaf ears.

Nobody knows when the meetings are?, where the meetings are?, the fact of the matter is we don't know anything about the supporters club other than they put forward €100k for the new stand.
Like it or not the Cobh Ramblers Supporters Club is the most exclusive club in Cobh and to get in you have to be a member of one of two families!

[rambler14]

Aren't busses usually organised by Supporters Clubs though? That's a question and not a statement, just so we're clear.

Yes it is. Organising buses is the SC's job. Marco said that a few months ago in the last thread like this.

[luka]

Do we reckon we could fill a 45 seater for the Derry game next week?

[6yardpunisha]

Nobody knows when the meetings are?, where the meetings are?, the fact of the matter is we don't know anything about the supporters club other than they put forward €100k for the new stand.
Like it or not the Cobh Ramblers Supporters Club is the most exclusive club in Cobh and to get in you have to be a member of one of two families!

I thought it was likened to the Freemasons the last time not the Mafia:D

[drinkfeckarse]

I would have thought one of the responsibilities of any supporters club is getting as many supporters as possible to games??

I appreciate it they may have enough on their plate but surely utilising the club website to advertise a bus and printing a handful of posters to be put up in the pubs would be managable?

I've said it before that it would be easy to implement a structure where names had to be down by the Monday or Tuesday of the week of the away game to see whether there was enough to organise a bus. There would be no more confusion as to whether a bus is going or not and supporters could only blame themselves if there wasn't enough names down to warrant hiring a bus.

It really could be that simple....

[rambler14]

I see it this way:

If you walk into an SC meeting an ask by way of a show of hands how many people in the SC have travelled to an away game in their own car and not bummed a free lift on the team bus?...........There would be no hands up!

Then ask how many have actually travelled to an away game from the SC?..........There would be about 5 hands up, all freebies on the team bus!

There is no excuse for not organising a bus to games in and around Dublin. Simple as that.:mad:
I personally think it's time for a re-shuffle.

[drinkfeckarse]

Do we reckon we could fill a 45 seater for the Derry game next week?

In a word...no. Lets be realistic here.

[luka]

In a word...no. Lets be realistic here.

Was thinking not alright. I don't think a bus to Galway is out of the question though

[rambler14]

Was thinking not alright. I don't think a bus to Galway is out of the question though

A bus to Galway is a necessity. There should be a bus to every game during the 2nd series.

[drinkfeckarse]

Was thinking not alright. I don't think a bus to Galway is out of the question though


Very true. All the Dublin trips and that sort of distance should be achievable IMO.

[luka]

I see it this way:

If you walk into an SC meeting an ask by way of a show of hands how many people in the SC have travelled to an away game in their own car and not bummed a free lift on the team bus?...........There would be no hands up!

Then ask how many have actually travelled to an away game from the SC?..........There would be about 5 hands up, all freebies on the team bus!

There is no excuse for not organising a bus to games in and around Dublin. Simple as that.:mad:
I personally think it's time for a re-shuffle.

Well if the supporters club are getting freebies on the team bus then that might possibly account for their apparent lack of enthusiasm when it comes to organising busses for travelling supporters. Team Bus = Team and Committee. All others should travel by way of an organised supporters bus. If that were the policy then it may help getting busses organised.

[luka]

Forget about the supporters Club for the minute right. There is a think called CROST now right, so why not try to organise a bus to the Galway game and see what happens. Three weeks to organise one is plenty of time. I think that match has been change to Monday 26th though so maybe not a good idea. Next one after that is July 4th v Shamrock Rovers unless something is done for the Cork City game on 20th June

[Comic Book Guy]

[QUOTE=rambler14;937561]I see it this way:

If you walk into an SC meeting an ask by way of a show of hands how many people in the SC have travelled to an away game in their own car and not bummed a free lift on the team bus?...........There would be no hands up!

Then ask how many have actually travelled to an away game from the SC?..........There would be about 5 hands up, all freebies on the team bus!

How do you know this?? Personally I would have no problem if people from the Sc were travelling on the team bus, they are giving up their free time for the betterment of the club and deserve it IMO.
SC have organised buses in the past but have been let down on numerous occasions by people withdrawing at the last minute leaving the Sc to pick up the shortfall.
The Sc have bailed the club out time and time again in the past and the new stand would not exist were it not for them. They are not a secret organisation, their committee is listed in the programme, you all know who they are so ask for a membership from and join up.
Finally, I can remember the Sc organised a bus to Dundalk last august with the clear instruction that no-one under the age of 18 could go unless accompanied by an adult. On the morning a lot of unaccompanied teens turned up which left the Sc in an awkward position, rather than turn them away as they could have done they allowed them travel but unfortunately had to babysit them for the day. I know that the part of the bus they were in was left in an awful condition after the journey with the Sc having to pick up the cleaning tab.
I am not in the Sc but was on the bus that day and I can verify for the behaviour of these 'people', so I'm sure you can understand the SC reluctance to fund buses for these people when they have a major financial undertaking to worry about. Rant over.

[don ramo]

the city game is very acheivable, ill do that :D (joke i aint doin it)


its not that hard to organise, but a supporters club is suppose to subsidise travel to games, in order to help supporters get to games, it wouldn't be hard to designate an area in the ground for the home games so you go up to whoever is at the table and pay a deposit for the next away game (deposits are non-refundable) then you organise a suitable size bus,


its not rocket science,

[luka]

[QUOTE=rambler14;937561]I see it this way:

If you walk into an SC meeting an ask by way of a show of hands how many people in the SC have travelled to an away game in their own car and not bummed a free lift on the team bus?...........There would be no hands up!

Then ask how many have actually travelled to an away game from the SC?..........There would be about 5 hands up, all freebies on the team bus!

How do you know this?? Personally I would have no problem if people from the Sc were travelling on the team bus, they are giving up their free time for the betterment of the club and deserve it IMO.
SC have organised buses in the past but have been let down on numerous occasions by people withdrawing at the last minute leaving the Sc to pick up the shortfall.
The Sc have bailed the club out time and time again in the past and the new stand would not exist were it not for them. They are not a secret organisation, their committee is listed in the programme, you all know who they are so ask for a membership from and join up.
Finally, I can remember the Sc organised a bus to Dundalk last august with the clear instruction that no-one under the age of 18 could go unless accompanied by an adult. On the morning a lot of unaccompanied teens turned up which left the Sc in an awkward position, rather than turn them away as they could have done they allowed them travel but unfortunately had to babysit them for the day. I know that the part of the bus they were in was left in an awful condition after the journey with the Sc having to pick up the cleaning tab.
I am not in the Sc but was on the bus that day and I can verify for the behaviour of these 'people', so I'm sure you can understand the SC reluctance to fund buses for these people when they have a major financial undertaking to worry about. Rant over.


What you say is all well and good Comic Book Guy, but to be perfectly honest with you I'm of the personal opinion that they SC should indeed be organising or at least be seen to try to organise and offer the opportunity of a bus, be it big or small, to all away games. As Don Ramo says, it's not rocket science. They have the availability of their own section on the official site as a way of notifying people and it's not been used once yet. Placing a list of all away matches in the club house with an X next to the games they'd like to organise busses for isn't that difficult. I suggested this before the season got underway. Using the MC at the halftime interval at home games is another available option.

Someone from the SC really ought to make a statement of some sort regarding away travel arrangements, or that they won't be doing any. At least then people would know where they stand regards getting to games. If members of the SC are here and don't want to be identified then forward an email to me and I'll put it on the official site for them.

[micls]

Aren't busses usually organised by Supporters Clubs though? That's a question and not a statement, just so we're clear.

Our buses are not run byt the supporters club. Just run by City fans seperately.

When the Supporters club gets involved they have to be careful about insurance and liability were anything to happen

[luka]

[QUOTE=micls;937650]Our buses are not run byt the supporters club. Just run by City fans seperately./QUOTE]


Yes but ye're a different breed altogether though :p

I understand about the insurance aspect and all that though.

[harps1954]

Hi guys, don't want to be seen as sticking my nose in, but why not get another Supporters Club up and running. I know at Harps there are at least four or five supporters Club. One in Ballybofey/Stranorlar, one in Letterkenny, one in Strabane, one in Inishowen and one in Strabane.

Why does there just have to be one Supporters Club? I take it the Supporters Club you have is the Cobh Ramblers Supporters Club (is this run by the club?)

Why not set up a Pride of '83 Supporters Club. Charge a membership fee of €20 and run buses to all away matches. Members of your supporters club could get €5 discount (so a bus to Bohs away could be €20 for non-members and €15 for members).

Instead of complaining about THE supporters club, there is plenty of alternatives.

[drinkfeckarse]

Finally, I can remember the Sc organised a bus to Dundalk last august with the clear instruction that no-one under the age of 18 could go unless accompanied by an adult. On the morning a lot of unaccompanied teens turned up which left the Sc in an awkward position, rather than turn them away as they could have done they allowed them travel but unfortunately had to babysit them for the day. I know that the part of the bus they were in was left in an awful condition after the journey with the Sc having to pick up the cleaning tab.
I am not in the Sc but was on the bus that day and I can verify for the behaviour of these 'people', so I'm sure you can understand the SC reluctance to fund buses for these people when they have a major financial undertaking to worry about. Rant over.

Don't see what was awkward about it. Quite simply they could have told them that they clearly stated no unaccompanied under 18's were allowed and to refuse them travel. No point moaning after the fact when it was their own free will that left them on!

Why can't the supporters club have something set in stone that names have to be down on a list in the bar by a Monday or Tuesday night on the week of an away game? It's simple!!! If there are not enough names then no bus. If somebody puts their name down then they do it on the understanding that they have to pay for their seat even if they pull out. Can't see many people having a problem with this.

It would be very very easy to actually have this in place. Within weeks there would be no more confusion and no more bitching as everybody would know the score.

The simple thing is something we've never really excelled in though...

[luka]

Hi guys, don't want to be seen as sticking my nose in, but why not get another Supporters Club up and running. I know at Harps there are at least four or five supporters Club. One in Ballybofey/Stranorlar, one in Letterkenny, one in Strabane, one in Inishowen and one in Strabane.

Why does there just have to be one Supporters Club? I take it the Supporters Club you have is the Cobh Ramblers Supporters Club (is this run by the club?)

Why not set up a Pride of '83 Supporters Club. Charge a membership fee of €20 and run buses to all away matches. Members of your supporters club could get €5 discount (so a bus to Bohs away could be €20 for non-members and €15 for members).

Instead of complaining about THE supporters club, there is plenty of alternatives.

Very true, however, people are great with ideas (not you) but when it comes to the crunch...........

I rang to Coach companies this morning and am awaiting quotes

[6yardpunisha]

See the Bohs Supporters Club have themselves pretty well organised

http://www.bohemians.ie/index.php/supporters/cobhbus.htm


If only...................

"Can of Worms":D

[luka]

We'll be running out .................:D

[marty]

I dont see how the supporters club should be at all responsible for buses,the members join and do what they can its not anyones business or duty to tell them what they should be doing.If any one of you realisticly wanted to join that badly you could just ring the club and ask when the next meeting is or else ask someone like Marco to post up the date and time.I have been involved in organising a bus b4 i think it was the drogs play-off a few years back the bus bounced and rocked the whole way im surprised they took us home.

[luka]

I don't think the issue is with people wanting to join and not knowing where to do so, I thinks it's more down to the fact that busses used to be or were organised in the past by the SC and that operation seems to have ceased somewhat, which leave those wanting to travel more or less in limbo. If the SC don't want to be involved in bus organisation then to be honest, they should say so and maybe let others take the lead. I personally have no issue with the SC.

[marty]

I think the fact they have made no effort sums up the obvious they dont want to be involved,any date on the galway game yet i heard its mid-wk theres no date on my list.

[luka]

any date on the galway game yet i heard its mid-wk theres no date on my list.

Monday 26th May

[drinkfeckarse]

I dont see how the supporters club should be at all responsible for buses,


One of the main duties for any supporters club should be buses. It goes without saying. Fundraising is fantastic but the main aim is actually supporting the team and to support the team you need to ensure that supporters get there.