U-23 Squad Announced v Northern Ireland 13th May

[SolitudeRed]

There was a delay at the start because both teams had white socks on so NI had to go and change into blue Glenavon socks but not after big Davy had thrown a tantrum!

Apparently the game was a dull affair with few chances had 0-0 draw written all over it but RoI nicked it at the end. From what I Cliftonville defender Barry Holland had a good game even though he was playing out of position at Right Back.


from BBC:

NI U23 0-1 Rep of Ireland U23


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44653000/jpg/_44653683_295841.jpg NI's Albert Watson heads the ball away from Mark Quigley

A stoppage-time goal by Stephen Rice gave the Republic of Ireland victory in Tuesday's Challenge Trophy match at Mourneview Park.
Rice netted a diving header following sa cross from Killian Brennan to leave the Pat Fenlon's Republic top of their group with six points.
In the first half Peter Thompson hit an upright with a shot for NI.
His Linfield team-mate Thomas Stewart had a shot cleared off the line after rounding Republic keeper Barry Murphy

[MariborKev]

So out of the players that played in this game who is gonna be good enough for a full cap????


None.

[Sheridan]

It's funny how popular orthodoxy propagates like this in eL circles, five years ago (when the league was nowhere near its current level) all the talk was of players appearing in the national team. Nowadays, the fashionable opinion is that none of them are good enough. Damn you, peer pressure.

Of the team that started last night, O'Brien, Keegan, Quigley, Mooney and maybe Brennan would be in or around the national team set-up in most countries of comparable size, some sooner than others.

[Maroon 7]

Of the team that started last night, O'Brien, Keegan, Quigley, Mooney and maybe Brennan would be in or around the national team set-up in most countries of comparable size, some sooner than others.

You think they would be in the national squads of say Croatia, Denmark, Norway, Finland or Slovakia?

[Sheridan]

Probably not Croatia, as they have a similar attitude to their domestic league. But the others, yeah. They'd have been brought through the system.

[Duggie]

did u read fenlons comments on the kit issue ? speaking of jeffries

“He wanted the Republic of Ireland to wear orange and blue socks but that wasn’t going to happen while I was manager, that’s for certain.”

jeffries must be a right arrogant pig. i could think of another few things to say aswell but id prob get banned from here.:eek:

good man nutsy tho :mad:

[gspain]

Very disappointing performance. We just about deserved a draw (with my biased glasses on) and while it was great to win it at the death it was still a disappointing night. I had great hopes for this team and tournament after the Slovakia game but much less so now. Still a draw at home to Belgium puts us in the final (a draw on Tuesday was all we needed anyway).

I thought Joxer Kelly was our best player in the first half but he was taken off at half time and I got scoffed at for that opinion early in the second half. It was hoofball from both teams. The pitch was terrible but still not enough of an excuse.

Trap stayed until the end but he won't be calling anybody up on their performance last Tuesday.

[Not Brazil]

did u read fenlons comments on the kit issue ? speaking of jeffries

“He wanted the Republic of Ireland to wear orange and blue socks but that wasn’t going to happen while I was manager, that’s for certain.”

jeffries must be a right arrogant pig. i could think of another few things to say aswell but id prob get banned from here.:eek:

good man nutsy tho :mad:

It's David JEFFREY.

Pat's version of events is absolute ballicks.

At prearranged sercurity meeting, NI colours were agreed to be Green,White,White and Rep of Ireland,White,Green,Green.

At least 1 hour before ko, the ref went in to check colours of the teams and said then that someone had to change socks and left teams to hopefully sort it out.

Rep of Ireland didnt keep to agreement,then stated that the home team has to change...eventally NI changed.

There was a happy ending tho - good friends that they are, David and Pat warmly embraced at the final whistle.

In fact, David gave Pat a kiss.:eek:

[MariborKev]

The verbal sparring on the line between the two of them was more interesting that what was happening on the pitch.

[soccerc]

The verbal sparring on the line between the two of them was more interesting that what was happening on the pitch.



Here's an example

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2491164960_85dd023e0e.jpg

As for Not Brazil's assertions on the kit agreement, Ballacks.

Jeffrey said post game "We were told it had been agreed that the Republic would wear green, white and green", but that was never the case as it was White, green, white.

He added "...we made a mistake, but there you go."

[Kingdom]

Here's an example

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2491164960_85dd023e0e.jpg



Stick a perm wig and a tache and you can't almost hear the "are ya fightin' - are ya askin?" in the mock scouse accent.

[Not Brazil]

Here's an example

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2491164960_85dd023e0e.jpg

Jeffrey said post game "We were told it had been agreed that the Republic would wear green, white and green", but that was never the case as it was White, green, white.

He added "...we made a mistake, but there you go."

Have you a link to these comments attributable to DJ?

If so, can you post it... I 'd like to challenge my sources version of events, if that's the case.

[soccerc]

Have you a link to these comments attributable to DJ?

If so, can you post it... I 'd like to challenge my sources version of events, if that's the case.

Challenge your sopurce I say.

They are post match comments on an audio file I recorded.

[Not Brazil]

Challenge your sopurce I say.

They are post match comments on an audio file I recorded.

So, can you PM me your audio file please, or tell me how/where I can source it?

[Not Brazil]

“He wanted the Republic of Ireland to wear orange and blue socks but that wasn’t going to happen while I was manager, that’s for certain.”


Can you post a link confirming these comments attributable to Pat Fenlon please?

[geysir]

Not Brasil, how about asking your source to provide the proof to their version if not tell them to stuff their version ;)

indo version (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/sock-horror-over-lurgan-farce-1375667.html)

Eventually, the game went ahead after the North agreed to wear the blue socks of host club Glenavon.

"There appears to have been a misunderstanding over what was agreed at the planning meeting for the match last month," said the FAI in a statement last night.

"The associations are looking into it, but we are happy that a solution was found."

In the aftermath of the game, which ended in a 1-0 win for the Republic, opposing managers David Jeffrey and Pat Fenlon were singing from different hymn sheets, with Republic boss Fenlon suggesting that his counterpart had indulged in a bout of gamesmanship.

"Obviously the kit had been agreed a while ago. Our away kit is white [jersey], green [shorts] and white [socks].

"I think there was a little bit of gamesmanship from Davey. But I think you get what you deserve when you try those things in football," said Fenlon.

"He wanted the Republic of Ireland to wear orange and blue socks but that wasn't going to happen while I was manager, that's for certain."

However, Jeffrey had his own take on what had been agreed at last month's planning meeting.

"We were told it had been agreed that the Republic would wear green, white and green," he said.

"The rules of the competition says that if there is a clash of colours with the home team, you change.

" I went to our own people and said what's the point in having a planning meeting?

"There was a bit of a stalemate but it was a point of principle over a matter of fact and that's what held it up.

" We were very clear we should have had the white socks on, the Republic should have had green.

"So, we made a mistake, but there you go."

[Not Brazil]

Thanks for the link geysir.

Orange socks would compliment the ROI kit very nicely - national flag, and all that - but that'll not happen under Pat "Billy" Fenlon's watch.:D

[geysir]

"He wanted the Republic of Ireland to wear orange and blue socks"

Pat obviously has a sense of colour match.

[soccerc]

So, can you PM me your audio file please, or tell me how/where I can source it?

In a word, No.

You chose to disbelieve or doubt me so why should I be obliging?

[eirebhoy]

On the football, Trap singled out Quigley as the player who impressed him most.

[co. down green]

In a word, No.

You chose to disbelieve or doubt me so why should I be obliging?

Maybe not brazil's sources existed only in his own 'wee mind':rolleyes:

[geysir]

The poor lad didn't appreciate that soccerc is real source.

I don't think he knew better than trusting a link to the Indo over soccerc :o

[soccerc]

The poor lad didn't appreciate that soccerc is real source.

I don't think he knew better than trusting a link to the Indo over soccerc :o

I think perhaps he's crawled back under that bluestone from which he emerges every now and then.

Sometimes it's best when in possesion of the facts to admit defeat but he's not pragmatic

[Not Brazil]

In a word, No.

You chose to disbelieve or doubt me so why should I be obliging?

Deary me - bit of touchy sort, aren't you?:rolleyes:

Delusions of self importance, perhaps?

I merely wanted some hard evidence to present to an idividual who claims he was in the changing room, and gave a different version of events to what was posted here.

"Some bloke on foot.ie said...." doesn't cut it.

Geysir was kind enough to provide me with the Indo link.

Not sure I'd believe to much of what comes out of "Billy" Fenlon's mouth tho ;)....both him and DJ are masters of gamesmanship.

[geysir]

Soccerc is a respected journalist of long standing, who runs a reputable website and who does not spoof.

Compared to your self importance coming on here bleating about nonsense, based on some unknown's understanding of something said from the mouth of Jeffrey who had some (admitted mistaken) understanding of the pre match agreement.

Then you say you wouldn't believe it anyway, even if the quotes post match from Fenlon and Jeffrey which contradicted your source were on audio file because they lie or are masters of gamesmanship.

[Not Brazil]

Soccerc is a respected journalist of long standing, who runs a reputable website and who does not spoof.

Compared to your self importance coming on here bleating about nonsense, based on some unknown's understanding of something said from the mouth of Jeffrey who had some (admitted mistaken) understanding of the pre match agreement.

Then you say you wouldn't believe it anyway, even if the quotes post match from Fenlon and Jeffrey which contradicted your source were on audio file because they lie or are masters of gamesmanship.

I have no doubt that Soccerc is a respected journalist of long standing, and runs a reputable website...he is also a mighty fine photographer!

I merely asked if he could share his "hard" evidence with me - via PM - in order that I might challenge the (not vastly different) version of events I had heard from someone else.

That was in no way intended to be a slight on Soccerc.

I also seriously doubt that DJ wanted the Republic Of Ireland lads to wear orange and blue socks - no matter what Pat Fenlon said.

In fact, I believe that DJ wanted the Republic team to wear green socks - as per his interpretation of what had been agreed at a previous planning meeting.

As the Indo article itself quotes DJ:

"We were told it had been agreed that the Republic would wear green, white and green," he said.