Langan on liveline

[Mento]

Dave Langan was on Liveline today.
It was emotional stuff.
A fan started a campaign for Dave on YBIG and it is taking off big time.

He started the topic yesterday. Who knows, the FAI have to take note of this and maybe a testimonial is a possibility.

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/

Campaign is on www.ybig.ie forum

[Razors left peg]

Who the hell is Dave Langan?
Irish Legend

[Razors left peg]

http://foot.ie/archive/index.php/t-18864.html

[Jamjar]

I met him and Gerry Daly once when they played for Derby. Our football team was on a trip to anfield and Derby were staying in the same hotel. Met the two of them in the lift. I wasn't a liverpool fan so I was even more determined to shout for Derby. Unfortunatley they were hammered 5 nil or something.

[Greenforever]

Who the hell is Dave Langan?


Really Ciaran you should be utterly ashamed of yourself, if you think that comment is funny you're sick and if not just extremly ignorant.


If you don't have a clue who Dave Langan is try a little research. Dave is now a cripple who gave his all for Ireland and is living on the breadline from all accounts.

A testimonial for Dave in croker would be a fitting tribute to a true Irish legend.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Who the hell is Dave Langan?

Imbecile.

[geysir]

Go easy on him, It must have all happened about 20 years before his time.

[Serb]

For anyone listening to this, the Dave Langan part of the show starts at around 15:45.

[Carrigaline]

Imbecile.
:rolleyes:

Before my time as well, I certainly wouldn't have heard of him until I heard him mentioned here.

[CJTheGull]

Give the chap a break lads - Langan's plight has been well known for the past few years and the fact that a testimonial still hasn't been organised for him is what people should be giving out about rather than a younger Ireland fan who doesn't know who he is.

[ruben_sosa]

who gave his all for Ireland and is living on the breadline from all accounts.

oh, he fought for Ireland during a war and gave his life? yeah he deserves the title 'legend' then. Oh wait, he played football.... feck off.

who can the rest of us turn when our families are sick? feckin no-one that's who, so stop pushing your misplaced bleeding heart bullpoop down peoples throats. There are millions of people more deserving of a handout than an ex-footballer with arthritis. I'll keep my money for the Red Cross if you don't mind. He lived the dream and now he's suffering from a problem that 1 in 6 Irish people have, life's tough.

[RogerMilla]

oh, he fought for Ireland during a war and gave his life? yeah he deserves the title 'legend' then. Oh wait, he played football.... feck off.

who can the rest of us turn when our families are sick? feckin no-one that's who, so stop pushing your misplaced bleeding heart bullpoop down peoples throats. There are millions of people more deserving of a handout than an ex-footballer with arthritis. I'll keep my money for the Red Cross if you don't mind. He lived the dream and now he's suffering from a problem that 1 in 6 Irish people have, life's tough.

jaysis ruben have a heart man

[sligoman]

Really Ciaran you should be utterly ashamed of yourself, if you think that comment is funny you're sick and if not just extremly ignorant.
Imbecile.ffs lads calm down. I didn't know who he was either, forgive me for not being born in time:rolleyes:.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Checked his wiki site and it sucks for him but how am I expected to know people who played before I was born?

I'd imagine none of my friends would know who he was either. jeez, you guys need to chill, it was a simple question.

Surely a large part of being a fan is knowing your team's history?

Players like Tony Dunne and Con Martin played for Ireland long before I was born but I still know who they are. Given that Dave Langan was still playing for Ireland while Jack Charlton was in charge and given his circumstances and the fact that plenty has been written about it I think people would expect you to know who he is if you want to be taken seriously.

Checking his wiki site before posting in what seemed to be a pretty crass manner would have been a good start.

[Jerry The Saint]

jeez, you guys need to chill, it was a simple question.

No, it wasn't a simple question you were just being a dick to draw attention to yourself. Mission accomplished.

[paul_oshea]

No, it wasn't a simple question you were just being a dick to draw attention to yourself. Mission accomplished.

Jerry is your forehead a bit warm?!

[Drumcondra 69er]

Dave Langan played in the 1970's and early 80's at a time when professional footballers earned not a whole lot more than the average man on the street. The majority of footballers had no formal education and when their careers ended, they had to go and find 'normal' jobs. Dave Langan could not do this, due to a medical condition, and now, at 51 years of age lives on state assistance and nothing more. The FAI saw fit to grant testimonials to players like John Giles, Liam Brady and Kevin Moran, who clearly did not need them from a financial perspective. Langan won 26 caps in great Irish teams before his debilitating illness, and his performances brought joy to thousands who wouldn't begrudge the man a day out.


Add to this the fact that one of his major injuries occurred while playing for Ireland and that while he was playing 25 caps was what was required to gain a testimonial before it was changed to 50. Had he not been injured chances are he'd have got his 25 caps long before he did and would have had his testimonial and the chance to make his life that bit easier.

[Babysis]

oh, he fought for Ireland during a war and gave his life? yeah he deserves the title 'legend' then. Oh wait, he played football.... feck off.

Dave Langan was before my time too, and I knew nothing of him, but having read the thread on YBIG I felt he deserved support. There are a lot of people who are working to get some recognition for his situation.
Myself and Green Tribe have volunteered to contact as many people/supporters clubs etc to get them clued up about it all before the Serbia game - Emails with links to his bebo site and the YBIG campaign etc, we figure it cant hurt.

[Shedender81]

It was not 25 caps for a testimonial its was ALWAYS 50 ... or at the discretion off the association

Langan has been helped by some former players , However there is a danger in the FAI giving him a game , Maybe it might help if the current over hyped and over paid players lent a hand rather than the long suffering fan .

I feel sorry for Dave he was a smashing full back for Ireland and helped us get Aldo and Houghton in to the team .. but what are Derby , Oxford , and Birmingham doing for him after all it was during his time there that these injuries would have been caused.

Its a good cause... but so many others are too

[Shedender81]

Dave Langan played in the 1970's and early 80's at a time when professional footballers earned not a whole lot more than the average man on the street.


Max wage was gone in the 60s ... for the times these boys were on good money .. in the 70s and early 80s the man on the street was unemployed in this country !!! or had to move away to get work ...

[Wolfie]

Dave Langan epitomises a lot of what Ireland have been missing at full back in more recent times. He was a solid, dependable type of player that was not afraid to make his presence felt. His attitude and commitment was always 100% and that is why he was so popular on the terraces.

In an age of phony and superfluous "outstanding contribution to football" and "Outstanding Irish Legend" so-called awards and accolades - Dave Langan is someone truly deserving of a recognition of his contribution to Irish football when the rewards were more modest and the acclaim less audible.

[sullanefc]

Surely a large part of being a fan is knowing your team's history?



So the more history you know the bigger the fan you are?? :confused:

Must we all bow down to the "real fans" on here who know every little detail and fact on the history of the Republic of Ireland football team? :rolleyes:

By the way, I have never heard of him also.

[Drumcondra 69er]

So the more history you know the bigger the fan you are?? :confused:

Must we all bow down to the "real fans" on here who know every little detail and fact on the history of the Republic of Ireland football team? :rolleyes:

By the way, I have never heard of him also.

That's not what I said. But I would think that when people get interested in football they tend to want to find out about old players etc and I have to say the lack of knowledge of some surprises me given the way they pontificate on other threads. And we're not talking about 'every little detail and fact on the history of the Republic of Ireland football team? :rolleyes:'. It's just over 20 years since Dave Langan stopped playing for Ireland and he was a total cult hero with the fans of the time. His situation has been reported on by journalists and spoken about by fans a fair bit in recent times, seems odd that there's Ireland fans that haven't heard of him.

[Metrostars]

That's not what I said. But I would think that when people get interested in football they tend to want to find out about old players etc and I have to say the lack of knowledge of some surprises me given the way they pontificate on other threads. And we're not talking about 'every little detail and fact on the history of the Republic of Ireland football team? :rolleyes:'. It's just over 20 years since Dave Langan stopped playing for Ireland and he was a total cult hero with the fans of the time. His situation has been reported on by journalists and spoken about by fans a fair bit in recent times, seems odd that there's Ireland fans that haven't heard of him.

Yep, there was a thread on here about Langan last year:

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=18864&highlight=langan

And another a bit older:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=55768&highlight=langan

Jayus, kids these days. Should learn to shut up and respect their elders :p

[Drumcondra 69er]

If you're going to start a discussion on an obscure figure you could at least give a brief introduction as to who he is.

A) I didn't start the discussion.

B) I don't think Dave Langan would be considered an obscure figure by anyone (possibly excluding the bebo generation) with any knowledge of the game.

C) I think it would be your responsibility to do any checking up before posting on a topic, otherwise leave it to those who know what they're on about. By all means join in after you've done a simple google search.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Dave Langan played in the 1970's and early 80's at a time when professional footballers earned not a whole lot more than the average man on the street.


Max wage was gone in the 60s ... for the times these boys were on good money .. in the 70s and early 80s the man on the street was unemployed in this country !!! or had to move away to get work ...

Langan's earning potential was severely affected by his injuries, he was out for 2 years after getting injured against France. When he had his 'second coming' at Oxford he was on £300 a week which, while higher then the average wage on the street, was never going to be enough to retire on. The big clubs might have been paying good money but outside of that there's very few players that retired at the same time as Langan that were able to retire on, had he been 10 years later he's have been fine.

[ruben_sosa]

a time when professional footballers earned not a whole lot more than the average man on the street. the poor fella, he only earned more than the average man on the street, but not a whole lot more. And how do you know how much he earned? you're just guessing from the self-pitying tone of the article.


The majority of footballers had no formal education and when their careers ended, they had to go and find 'normal' jobs.
oh janey mackers, that's so tragic...had to go find normal jobs and didn't have a good education, imagine the rest of his generation being in such a dire situation.


Dave Langan could not do this, due to a medical condition, and now, at 51 years of age lives on state assistance and nothing more. 42 years of age, read the article properly, and he's just like thousands of other people dependent on state assistance except they won't be given and probably would not want a platform to air their 'poor me' stories.


The FAI saw fit to grant testimonials to players like John Giles, Liam Brady and Kevin Moran, who clearly did not need them from a financial perspective. because they played for 20 years and were renowned the world over for their footballing achievements. Testimonials are not awarded to footballers most people under 40 don't know,
who happened on bad luck


Langan won 26 caps in great Irish teams before his debilitating illness. as i said, 1 in 6 people have arthritis, just because this guy played football doesn't mean we should elevate him above other people, he chose to play football, he wasn't drafted. Society can't be there to pick up the pieces and make it all better for footballers who make bad decisions in life and don't plan for the future. Nobody is forcing him to be a porter, he can use the PFA for financial, educational, and counselling assistance.
http://soccerlens.com/professional-footballers-association/6096/

[sullanefc]

C) I think it would be your responsibility to do any checking up before posting on a topic, otherwise leave it to those who know what they're on about. By all means join in after you've done a simple google search.

That's funny, I never saw that on the rules of the forum? :confused:

I'm 27 years of age and most certainly not of the Bebo generation, so less of the lecturing to other posters. :rolleyes:

While I have never heard of the man, he played for Ireland and it's sad to see the condition he is in now. Should the PFAI be doing more for him???

[Drumcondra 69er]

That's funny, I never saw that on the rules of the forum? :confused:

I'm 27 years of age and most certainly not of the Bebo generation, so less of the lecturing to other posters. :rolleyes:

While I have never heard of the man, he played for Ireland and it's sad to see the condition he is in now. Should the PFAI be doing more for him???

Not part of the rules hence the 'I think' at the start of the sentence. :rolleyes:

And I'd reckon you'd be in the minority of Ireland fans aged 27 who haven't heard of Dave Langan given that he was still playing when most 27 year olds would have been old enough to start taking an interest in football but that's just my opinion. Given that there's been a number of articles written about him in the last few years by Irish football journalists I find it strange that you still hadn't heard of him.

I would actually say that clubs should be doing more for ex players that fall on hard times but in this instance given that he injured himself playing for Ireland and would in all likelihood have been awarded a testimonial had he reached 25 caps earlier then he did that there's an argument for having a game organised for him. He has received a level of support already from the trust fund set up by the FAI in recent years.

[soccerc]

42 years of age, read the article properly, and he's just like thousands of other people dependent on state assistance except they won't be given and probably would not want a platform to air their 'poor me' stories.

Davy is 51.

I suggest you read the article again and perhaps the full post as the original piece was published by the Irish Times in 1999.

The thread dates from 2004 and in one post I pointed out that it was at that stage more than five years old.

I had the pleasure of seeing Davy progress from a schoolboy on the Lawn with Cherry Orchard, his first U15 international against against Germany in 1972 and then to the senior team.

1970's Ireland was a hell of a lot different those days in terms of living, wealth and education.

[Razors left peg]

oh, he fought for Ireland during a war and gave his life? yeah he deserves the title 'legend' then. Oh wait, he played football.... feck off.

who can the rest of us turn when our families are sick? feckin no-one that's who, so stop pushing your misplaced bleeding heart bullpoop down peoples throats. There are millions of people more deserving of a handout than an ex-footballer with arthritis. I'll keep my money for the Red Cross if you don't mind. He lived the dream and now he's suffering from a problem that 1 in 6 Irish people have, life's tough.

Is this not a forum for Irish football fans???? Dave Langan was a hero to thousands of people in this country and as football fans would like to see the man get some help financially.Dave played in the the time before the days of footballers being millioneers.No not everybody can turn to help when our families get sick but being a hero to so many people means that he still hold the affection of so many of these same fans that have great memories of the man as a player. Yes there are other charities to give money too and lots of other people that need help in the world and you are free to help whoever you want..... just dont be so disrepectful to the man and the fans that still care about his welfare

[as_i_say]

yep. only ever head of langan on here. ridiculous to presume everyone under 30 would ever have heard of the guy but if he does get a testamonial fair play to him if he's that badly off-i wouldnt begrudge him

. surely though if he actually was a legend of the game he would have been known by most of those not of his generation .e.g george best for example. just a thought.

[Billsthoughts]

In fairness am sure there are players before peoples time that they are not aware of. I know I wouldnt know many of the players of the 70s. Having said that you would think people would be a bit interested in a former player even if they hadnt heard of him before now.

Has Dave Langan ever got any assistance from FAI? Just wondering as I remember there was an article about him working in a laundrette years ago. Possible during middle of Charlton era.

(Might be a good idea to delete some of the posts agruing about the right to not know who he is:rolleyes: )

[ruben_sosa]

'Legend', 'Hero', what utter nonsense to use these words to describe a footballer. Just because footballers entertain us, does not make them altruistic, selfless, brave or worthy of the reverance in which some people hold them. People in here need to look harder for their role models, beyond the back pages of the Daily Star.

[ifk101]

He gets some money from the FAI via an ex-player "help" fund. This was stated in the liveline interview but it wasn't mentioned how much he gets.

[Razors left peg]

'Legend', 'Hero', what utter nonsense to use these words to describe a footballer. Just because footballers entertain us, does not make them altruistic, selfless, brave or worthy of the reverance in which some people hold them. People in here need to look harder for their role models, beyond the back pages of the Daily Star.

Sorry we should only look at doctors and nurses and people like that as heroes..... get over yourself will ya!!!

[Metrostars]

For the uneducated:

POSITION: Right Back
DATE OF BIRTH: Friday, 15th February 1957
PLACE OF BIRTH: Dublin, Ireland

Dublin born right back David Langan joined Derby County as an apprentice. He progressed well and signed his first professional contract in June 1976 aged nineteen. When he made his debut the following February the "Rams" were a struggling First Division side. A poor start to the season had prompted Dave Mackay's resignation as manager and his replacement Colin Murphy appeared unable to prevent County's freefall towards the relegation zone. A series of solid displays earned David a regular place in the line up for the remainder of the campaign. The signing of Gerry Daly also triggered a revival and Derby clawed themselves into fifteenth spot after losing just two of their last seventeen fixtures. Another dreadfull opening in 1977/78 saw Murphy axed in favour of Tommy Docherty. The flamboyant Scot set about a radical shake up of the playing staff and as a consequence of a deluge of incomings and outgoings thirty-one players made league appearances. Langan remained the only ever present, a reward for his pacey, tough tackling performances. Unfortunately for the club, few players fared as well and despite all the transfer activity County ended in a disappointing twelth place. David played forty games the following season, the away fixture he missed against Arsenal ending a run of eighty-three consecutive league starts County meanwhile slipped to nineteenth, Docherty himself resigning soon after the season ended. Things went from bad to worse in 1979/80. Colin Addison's side were relegated five points below the safety zone and several players requested transfers over the course of the season. When Langan, in an attempt to avoid being cup tied, refused to travel on the team bus for an FA Cup tie at Bristol City, he was fined and dropped for a couple of games. The incident ultimately ended his County career. Although David saw out the rest of the campaign he was sold to Birmingham City in July 1980 for a fee of £350000. In all competitions he made 155 appearances for the "Rams", scoring his only goal for the club against Arsenal in September 1979 to inspire County to a 3-2 victory after trailing 2-0 at half-time. He made his international debut in April 1978.
moved to Birmingham for what was then one of the highest ever fees for a full back.

He hardly missed a match for two-and-a-half seasons before injury threatened to ruin his career at the age of 26. He did not play for over a year but Jim Smith, who had signed him for Birmingham, knew him well and resurrected his career at Oxford United. He had played 235 league games, all in the top flight.

Dave was soon recalled to the international side and gained a further 11 caps while at the Manor. He received winner's medals for the (Old) Second Division championship and for the League Cup and delighted the United fans with his surging runs and his pinpoint crosses for the likes of Aldridge and Hamilton.

'Langy' played 136 first team games for Oxford United before moving to Bournemouth and then to Peterborough.



(Division 1 was the top league in England before the Premiership... for those who don't know):
Derby County: 1976-1977 Played 21 Scored 0 goals (Division 1)
1977-1978 Played 42 Scored 0 goals (Division 1)
1978-1979 Played 40 Scored 0 goals (Division 1)
1979-1980 Played 40 Scored 1 goal (Division 1)
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_football/LANGAN_David_19790310_GH_L.jpg
Transferred to Birmingham City £350000 in July 1980, a good sized fee in those days

Birmingham: 1980-1981 Played 42 Scored 0 goals (Division 1)
1981-1982 Played 36 Scored 1 goal (Division 1)
1982-1983 Played 14 Scored 2 goals (Division 1)
1983-1984 Played 0 Scored 0 goals (Division 1)
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_football/LANGAN_David_19801025_GH_L.jpg
http://www.oxfordmail.net/_images/misc/Oxford_United/history-langan.jpg
http://www.oxkits.co.uk/80s/1987-88%20David%20Langan.jpg

[jbyrne]

Society can't be there to pick up the pieces and make it all better for footballers who make bad decisions in life

no, but football people can look after their own and thats what most on here would like to see

[Drumcondra 69er]

Oh so ageism now? :rolleyes:

And I did do a google search, try it yourself. The first result that comes up for "Dave Langan" is this very Foot.ie thread :D

No, the first result that comes up is an archived thread from 2004 quoting an article from 1999 which would have given you all the info you needed had you bothered to open it. This isn't a new story.

As for the bebo page, it's nice someone from that generation knows what they're on about.

[onceahoop]

Right well on to the matter.

My understanding is that the FAI are under no obligation to give him a testimonial as he didn't make enough appearances and the campaign appears to be trying to joust the FAI into earning PR points by helping.

I'm with some of the other people here, I don't see the urgency of the situation. It's unfortunate, yes. But if that man was in most other professions he'd have no choice but live off state grants, and apparently he's getting paid from the FAI too.
Is there some specific reason he's looking for this money?

In most other, if not all, jobs where an employee is so injured that he cannot continue to work he would receive substantial compensation. Davy is now in a position where his employment options are extremely limited. I'm all for giving him a substantial dig out.

[NeilMcD]

I think some supporters are all too quick to slag players for retiring early and state they are representing their country etc and then when it comes to other issues say things like, "in any other profession" they would not get any help out from the public. The fact is that football or sport is not any other profession. I do not represent my country when I go to work and these guys now get great rewards for playing football at the highest level. However Dave Langan comes from a different era and I think it would be nice for the Irish fans to show their support for a player who always gave his all for Ireland and was a great crosser of the ball and due to the harshness of the sport he is now in constant pain and cannot provide for himself due to lack of employment opportunities. I would agree with this campaign.

[Greenforever]

ffs lads calm down. I didn't know who he was either, forgive me for not being born in time:rolleyes:.


Yes but you wernt so quick to post a remark suggesting well I dont know who he was so he can have been anybody.

[Greenforever]

oh, he fought for Ireland during a war and gave his life? yeah he deserves the title 'legend' then. Oh wait, he played football.... feck off.

who can the rest of us turn when our families are sick? feckin no-one that's who, so stop pushing your misplaced bleeding heart bullpoop down peoples throats. There are millions of people more deserving of a handout than an ex-footballer with arthritis. I'll keep my money for the Red Cross if you don't mind. He lived the dream and now he's suffering from a problem that 1 in 6 Irish people have, life's tough.


Well with a selfish attitude like yours it probably explains why you might have noone to turn to unlike Dave who put the pride in his country before his own health, so if you don't mind I and countless thousands of others will qite happily dig deep to give a LEGENd a dig out in his hour of need.

[Greenforever]

Right well on to the matter.

My understanding is that the FAI are under no obligation to give him a testimonial as he didn't make enough appearances and the campaign appears to be trying to joust the FAI into earning PR points by helping.

I'm with some of the other people here, I don't see the urgency of the situation. It's unfortunate, yes. But if that man was in most other professions he'd have no choice but live off state grants, and apparently he's getting paid from the FAI too.
Is there some specific reason he's looking for this money?


Yes the FAI are under no obligation to give him a testimonial.

You don't see the urgency of the situation, well you still obviously have not learnt od Davy's plight, he needs help and he needs it now not some distant time in the future.

"If that man" I assume you're referring to Davy and the way you try to demean him by referring to him as "That man" really tells us something about you and your attitude problem.

Most other professions would have looked after a fallen comrade far better, not that you would probably know as only being a young person (I would'nt call you a man) most professions such as the SIMI and LVA have benevolent funds were they help out former collegaues in their time of need. And believe it or not Football Supporters are the people who should be helping out Davy Langan in his hour of need.

[Greenforever]

I think some supporters are all too quick to slag players for retiring early and state they are representing their country etc and then when it comes to other issues say things like, "in any other profession" they would not get any help out from the public. The fact is that football or sport is not any other profession. I do not represent my country when I go to work and these guys now get great rewards for playing football at the highest level. However Dave Langan comes from a different era and I think it would be nice for the Irish fans to show their support for a player who always gave his all for Ireland and was a great crosser of the ball and due to the harshness of the sport he is now in constant pain and cannot provide for himself due to lack of employment opportunities. I would agree with this campaign.


I couldn't agree more, compare him with certain individuals who lie to get out of playing for their country and then WE the supporters end up paying for a private plane to send them home.

Give me a team of Davy Langans anyday.

[Razors left peg]

His hour of need? What exactly is his problem that has made it a dire issue now and not 20 years ago?

Or is this thread just a regurtiation of some ongoing problem that past it's chance to be resolved years ago?

Why should I donate money to some guy I've never heard of who has arthritis? My grandfather has arthritis, should I throw some money at him too? It seems to make everything better apparently.

No one is asking u to donate money to him if you dont want to, its not compulsary.... but there are lots of Irish fans that would like to help him

[Greenforever]

His hour of need? What exactly is his problem that has made it a dire issue now and not 20 years ago?

Or is this thread just a regurtiation of some ongoing problem that past it's chance to be resolved years ago?

Why should I donate money to some guy I've never heard of who has arthritis? My grandfather has arthritis, should I throw some money at him too? It seems to make everything better apparently.


NO you should not donate money to a guy whom you obviously resent even though in your own words you never heard of him BUT why have you a problem with coutless other supporters who want to do something for him. If he was granted a testimonial you would not be obliged to buy a ticket so why have you a problem if others want to.

As you obviously dont know, even though your Grandfather suffers the same, it gets worse with age. Please also pass my good wishes to your Grandfather as he obviously could do with them as his grandson obviously doesnt give a s*** Surely if a close family member has such a condition you could actually comprehend what DAvy is going through and then remember he is probably at least 20 years younger than your Grandad.

[NeilMcD]

His hour of need? What exactly is his problem that has made it a dire issue now and not 20 years ago?

Or is this thread just a regurtiation of some ongoing problem that past it's chance to be resolved years ago?

Why should I donate money to some guy I've never heard of who has arthritis? My grandfather has arthritis, should I throw some money at him too? It seems to make everything better apparently.

So your ignorance is now a part of your logic in your argument. The fact that you were ignorant to the fact that he is existed is now part of your argument. Also as someone else said, if you are not interested, just don't contribute to it fair enough.

[Mento]

I started this thread because there are very determined fans who are currently battling to help Dave Langan.
But as usual with this forum, there is always some eejit that talks nonsense.

The fact is that Langan's life was ruined doing the very thing that gave fans so much enjoyment. For that, MOST fans would like to see him rewarded.

Most of his generation have lived on healthy and earned good livings in media etc.
But Langan spiralled into depression because his injuries, the very ones he sustained breaking his guts for Ireland, and has lived on the bread line ever since.

I wouldn't even respond to fellas like Ciaran who are arguing on a thread even though he doesn't know what he is arguing for cause he never even heard of Langan or his plight.

Just top let people know as well, the 2 fans who have worked so hard over the last few weeks, are meeting with the FAI on Tuesday.
Very early days, but who knows, maybe something may happen.

[Greenforever]

I started this thread because there are very determined fans who are currently battling to help Dave Langan.
But as usual with this forum, there is always some eejit that talks nonsense.

The fact is that Langan's life was ruined doing the very thing that gave fans so much enjoyment. For that, MOST fans would like to see him rewarded.

Most of his generation have lived on healthy and earned good livings in media etc.
But Langan spiralled into depression because his injuries, the very ones he sustained breaking his guts for Ireland, and has lived on the bread line ever since.

I wouldn't even respond to fellas like Ciaran who are arguing on a thread even though he doesn't know what he is arguing for cause he never even heard of Langan or his plight.

Just top let people know as well, the 2 fans who have worked so hard over the last few weeks, are meeting with the FAI on Tuesday.
Very early days, but who knows, maybe something may happen.


Here's hoping and an excellent post