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dortie
03/07/2008, 8:12 AM
1,800 @Derry V Bohs LC 1/4 final 1,760 of which were very happy souls.
Definately not 40 Bohs fans, i didnt see one.
Youths4Ever
03/07/2008, 8:32 AM
Been told UCD v Cork was 550 official. Away end must have been a lot less crowded than I thought. If only there was a way of getting rid of Cork and replacing them with, say, Linfield, they might bring a larger away support and generate more interest in the game, and we wouldn't be in the position we're in at the moment. :(
UCD should worry more about attracting some home support rather than away fan numbers. Was my first visit to UCD tuesday night got a little lost and asked several people where the pitch was not one could even point me in the general direction maybe there in lies your problem noone can find your pitch.
John83
03/07/2008, 10:09 AM
UCD should worry more about attracting some home support rather than away fan numbers. Was my first visit to UCD tuesday night got a little lost and asked several people where the pitch was not one could even point me in the general direction maybe there in lies your problem noone can find your pitch.
Gee, we never though of that.
smasher
03/07/2008, 10:48 AM
Thats bull, there was easily 7000 maybe 8000 at the game between Harps and Derry early on in the season, there was around 4000 in the return fixture (smaller ground), Dundalk - Drogheda would fetch high numbers maybe 5000 or so, Bohs - Rovers crowds seem to be dropping yet they are still in the region of 3500 - 4000.
Last season for the final league game of the season, we had 800 fans in Kilkenny, for the play-offs in waterford we had the same if not more.
The cup final last season had much more than 2000 fans from either club.
Point is, LOI clubs have their "hard core" of fans and then the band wagon jumpers, I guarantee you if even Monaghan (no offence) were to be in the FAI Cup final, they would be fit to bring that sort of numbers. Junior clubs up here are the same, there was a crowd of around 1500 2 seasons ago for a league game between Kildrum and Fanad, 2 very small villages. If either of those sides (or any other USL side) were to make the cup final they would be able to gather up 2000 folk for it. Its the kind of country we live in.
All you guys seem to be missing the point. LOI sides coming from large population bases, eg Galway, Waterford, Cork, Limerick etc and get crowds ranging from 300 up to 7,000( on a very good night) while a town like Carrick( 5,500) brings almost half their population to an FAI Junior Cup final. At an FAI sENIOR Cup Final the best CROWD YOU WILL GET IS 12-15,000 AND THATS GENEROUS . I rest my case
Youths4Ever
03/07/2008, 10:57 AM
All you guys seem to be missing the point. LOI sides coming from large population bases, eg Galway, Waterford, Cork, Limerick etc and get crowds ranging from 300 up to 7,000( on a very good night) while a town like Carrick( 5,500) brings almost half their population to an FAI Junior Cup final. At an FAI sENIOR Cup Final the best CROWD YOU WILL GET IS 12-15,000 AND THATS GENEROUS . I rest my case
Majority of teams in LOI could generate that kind of interest in a one off big game. How many did Carrick have at semi finals and in earlier rounds?
Much more realastic to look for a sustainable base and build from there attendance wise.
John83
03/07/2008, 10:59 AM
All you guys seem to be missing the point. LOI sides coming from large population bases, eg Galway, Waterford, Cork, Limerick etc and get crowds ranging from 300 up to 7,000( on a very good night) while a town like Carrick( 5,500) brings almost half their population to an FAI Junior Cup final. At an FAI sENIOR Cup Final the best CROWD YOU WILL GET IS 12-15,000 AND THATS GENEROUS . I rest my case
Longford are in the same position - the whole town will turn up for a final. Ditto Monaghan. Cork won't get 50,000, sure, nor Bohs 100,000, but all this says is that small towns in Ireland cling on to local sports teams for an identity. The only way people from Limerick, Galway, Waterford, etc. are going to associate themselves with their local clubs like that is if there's a sustained period of enormous success - I'm thinking Rosenborg-style qualifying for the CL groups a bunch of times success.
holidaysong
03/07/2008, 11:40 AM
At an FAI sENIOR Cup Final the best CROWD YOU WILL GET IS 12-15,000 AND THATS GENEROUS.
There was 25,000 at the Cork - Drogheda final in Lansdowne Road in 2005 and 16,000 at Derry - St. Pat's the year after.
smasher
03/07/2008, 3:15 PM
Majority of teams in LOI could generate that kind of interest in a one off big game. How many did Carrick have at semi finals and in earlier rounds?
Much more realastic to look for a sustainable base and build from there attendance wise.
At semi final v Castlebar Celtic they would have had 1,200 plus and would have reasonably large following throughout their cup run. I have to disagree and the figures bear this out , most, if not all LOI sides would not generate this type of interest, proportionately speaking, in one off games.
I know as I have been a fan of Waterford Utd going bacck to the halycon days of late sixties and early seventies and would have visited many LOI grounds in that time.
Rovers Maniac
03/07/2008, 3:48 PM
At semi final v Castlebar Celtic they would have had 1,200 plus and would have reasonably large following throughout their cup run. I have to disagree and the figures bear this out , most, if not all LOI sides would not generate this type of interest, proportionately speaking, in one off games.
I know as I have been a fan of Waterford Utd going bacck to the halycon days of late sixties and early seventies and would have visited many LOI grounds in that time.
You are guessing with your crowd figures there, i know i am going back again but the Sligo Rovers v Cobh Ramblers 1983 semi final crowd were massive over 23k in one match in Cork and the last match had an offical crowd of just over 13k in the Showgrounds. In 1994 we sold 10,000 tickets not bad from town who has a population of 19,000 in the last census.
Sam_Heggy
03/07/2008, 3:59 PM
All you guys seem to be missing the point. LOI sides coming from large population bases, eg Galway, Waterford, Cork, Limerick etc and get crowds ranging from 300 up to 7,000( on a very good night) while a town like Carrick( 5,500) brings almost half their population to an FAI Junior Cup final. At an FAI sENIOR Cup Final the best CROWD YOU WILL GET IS 12-15,000 AND THATS GENEROUS . I rest my case
Ballybofey, Lonford, Cobh,etc are not that big of towns.
Can you guarantee that each and every one of the 2000 at that one game were from Carrick?
If Fanad United were to get to the cup final, there would easily be that size of a crowd, alot of Harps fans would come out and support them in a one off game like that.
In a crowd of 12000 to 15000 your 2000 wouldn't exactly stand out now would they?
pineapple stu
03/07/2008, 4:02 PM
Let Carrick apply for the A League and see what crowds they get on a regular basis.
Sam_Heggy
03/07/2008, 4:03 PM
Let Carrick apply for the A League and see what crowds they get on a regular basis.
and close on that.
Conroy
03/07/2008, 9:34 PM
Around 900 at Dundalk - Athlone Tonight.
oriel
03/07/2008, 10:11 PM
1,000 approx as per www.dundalkfc.com
DmanDmythDledge
03/07/2008, 10:16 PM
If Fanad United were to get to the cup final, there would easily be that size of a crowd, alot of Harps fans would come out and support them in a one off game like that.
Precisely. A lot of Waterford Utd fans would have supported Carrick in the final, especially considering the match was in the RSC.
Battery Rover
04/07/2008, 5:03 PM
Would never doubt figures given out by clubs but would never have thought that there were 1000 in Oriel last night. Thought 600 tops but then again don't have a good knowledge of Oriel.
One thing I did do was count 178 in the shed as with the referee stopping the match every 60 seconds for something or other there was plenty of time.
Free awarded were 21 Athlone, 16 Dundalk and thats not including the 5 offsides .
Fair point battery, oriel is a very large ground with a lot of wide spaces, the stand for eg seats 1,300 now, that alone was at least half full and there must have been 300 + scattered around the ground, although one thing is for sure, our avg crowd is def on the slide since the break, a sharp dip from 1,500 avg to around the 1,000 mark. natives not happy with the style of football me thinks
Cork City v Galway United, Official Attendance: 1,801.
Severe rain knocked 1000+ off the gate.
pineapple stu
04/07/2008, 11:21 PM
Pansies. :p
1200 I reckon at Drogheda v UCD, though will see what the Drogheda fans think.
KevB76
05/07/2008, 11:26 AM
Limerick 37FC v Kildare County official attendance 440
stann
05/07/2008, 12:18 PM
Rotten luck on the struggling club as they were hoping for a big gate at this game, and would have got it too I reckon. As it was, on one of the foulest nights for football I can remember for a while, 782 hardy souls made their way there, still a huge increase on two weeks ago when it was lovely! That's an official figure BTW.
D.U.F.C Daire
05/07/2008, 12:21 PM
Pansies. :p
1200 I reckon at Drogheda v UCD, though will see what the Drogheda fans think.
I'm not sure how many were there, but it was a big crowd considering the opposition and the ****e we were put through on Tuesday.
pineapple stu
05/07/2008, 11:06 PM
1200's a big crowd for the league champions?!
The league's got bigger problems than an AIL will solve if that's the case.
Rovers fan
06/07/2008, 2:22 AM
1200's a big crowd for the league champions?!
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Ah here,just 'cause ye get pathetic crowds,there's no need to argue about other teams attendances:rolleyes:
SMorgan
06/07/2008, 6:28 AM
Would never doubt figures given out by clubs but would never have thought that there were 1000 in Oriel last night. Thought 600 tops but then again don't have a good knowledge of Oriel.
One thing I did do was count 178 in the shed as with the referee stopping the match every 60 seconds for something or other there was plenty of time.
Free awarded were 21 Athlone, 16 Dundalk and thats not including the 5 offsides .
One thing about oriel park is that you can't estimate the crowd from the stand side of the ground because of the used areas that are out of sight. I would put the crowd at 900 to 1000
soylent green
06/07/2008, 12:06 PM
1034 official attendance at Shamrock Rovers v Cobh.
1034 official attendance at Shamrock Rovers v Cobh.
Irish Star said 2,000 for this one ! Even at the time I thought it couldnt be right. Rubbish paper
WindmillWarrior
06/07/2008, 3:41 PM
Pansies. :p
1200 I reckon at Drogheda v UCD, though will see what the Drogheda fans think.
Yeah, would go along with that.
Brutal crowd, though 2 home games in a week, the Bellewstown races and indeed our sh*t form certainly wouldn't have helped!
Rovers Maniac
06/07/2008, 10:01 PM
I'd say about 2,300 in the showgrounds last night, looked a terrible crowd at the Pats game, hardly looked a 1,000 there although could not see the other side of the ground. Still poor for a club that are going for the league.
deecay
06/07/2008, 10:03 PM
I would have said 2000 max
Rovers Maniac
06/07/2008, 10:28 PM
Easily more than that, i thought i was being a little conservative with my Estimation. I seen the game from 3 of the sides of the pitch and thought there was deffo a good gate, they were asking people to move down to the bottom of the main stand as top section were full. One thing for sure though fair play to Derry excellent travelling numbers.
Rovers fan
06/07/2008, 10:56 PM
About 2000 imo
sligofan4ever
06/07/2008, 10:57 PM
about 2300 max
monutdfc
07/07/2008, 8:29 AM
3 hundred and something announced as the attendance Sporting Fingal v Monaghan United on Friday night
Sam_Heggy
07/07/2008, 9:46 AM
About 1700 in Richomnd yesterday, 50 Harps fans.
Rovers Maniac
07/07/2008, 10:08 AM
I think you are way off Sam Pats v Harps crowd was 1089 according to a friend of mine who is Pats fan, very poor.
Sam_Heggy
07/07/2008, 10:22 AM
I think you are way off Sam Pats v Harps crowd was 1089 according to a friend of mine who is Pats fan, very poor.
There was more than that, then again, a weekend on the tear can mess up the eye sight, maybe it wasn't such a hammering after all and we won?
:confused:
Rory H
07/07/2008, 11:46 AM
1600+300 away fans in the Showgrounds. Biggest crowd of the weekend?
pineapple stu
08/07/2008, 10:17 PM
Update after last weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold. I've not put in the 1089 figure for Pat's v Harps unless a Pat's fan wants to agree with it (seems most people at the match reckon it was more) or the club update their website with more official numbers.
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,303 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,454 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,528 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,844 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 1,977 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,313 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Bray and Harps)
Rovers - 1,777 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,000 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 546 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 437 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,239 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 167 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 483 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD) (missing Waterford)
Monaghan - 185 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 974 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 744 (N/A) (missing Kildare and Waterford)
Waterford - 764 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 952 (810)
Premier Division average - 1,947 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 660 (722; 570; 520; 512)
Overall average - 1,362 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)
FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.
Estimates in but official figures missing -
Pat's v Bohs
Recent games missing -
Pat's v Harps
Candystripe
09/07/2008, 4:01 AM
Stu........any chance we could do an away fans att at every game. Would be easy enough to do.
I'm curious to see what most clubs average as we get very little away fans.
sligored
09/07/2008, 8:34 AM
Update after last weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold. I've not put in the 1089 figure for Pat's v Harps unless a Pat's fan wants to agree with it (seems most people at the match reckon it was more) or the club update their website with more official numbers.
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,303 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,454 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,528 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,844 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 1,977 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,313 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Bray and Harps)
Rovers - 1,777 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,000 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 546 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 437 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,239 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 167 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 483 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD) (missing Waterford)
Monaghan - 185 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 974 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 744 (N/A) (missing Kildare and Waterford)
Waterford - 764 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 952 (810)
Premier Division average - 1,947 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 660 (722; 570; 520; 512)
Overall average - 1,362 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)
FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.
Estimates in but official figures missing -
Pat's v Bohs
Recent games missing -
Pat's v Harps
anyone find it strange that sligo and harps have higher average attendances that pats and drogs and despite this sligo are still under pressure with the wage cap.
we have a much smaller squad and much lower wages.
These use of other forms of income is wrong when working out this percentage.
this sugar daddy money is winning the league , european spots and setanta places for these clubs.
i accept that chelsea are similar in the premiership and understand and maybe even crave the concept of buying success.
just in case the fans of these clubs think that they are near the top for any other reason
ndrog
09/07/2008, 12:04 PM
what are you moaning about .By your logic the more fans you get at the games the higher up the leauge you should be , just dosent work out like that im afraid .Clubs need investment from other sources as all gates in the eircom leauge are pathetic.
pineapple stu
09/07/2008, 12:10 PM
Stu........any chance we could do an away fans att at every game. Would be easy enough to do.
I'm curious to see what most clubs average as we get very little away fans.
There's been almighty rows on here over the number of away fans at games, with fans from pretty much every club responsible. Given there's no oficial away support figures, I'd say a season-long attempt would be about the most inflammatory thread ever in the history of the internet!
anyone find it strange that sligo and harps have higher average attendances that pats and drogs and despite this sligo are still under pressure with the wage cap.
No. If they have sugar daddies, they have sugar daddies. (Just so long as it doesn't involve selling your ground, money going in in the form of loans or the fans of the clubs involved thinking the good times will last for ever).
Also, Sligo's attendances would probably drop by 20% if you published official crowds. Just a general trend with comparing estimates and official figures.
Rovers Maniac
09/07/2008, 1:06 PM
Avg gate of 1,600 very much doubt anyway you seem to take the lowest estimate rather than a figure in the middle. Bar the game against you our crowds have been quite decent this season, not sure why there is not exact figures released from our games though.
sonofstan
09/07/2008, 4:21 PM
we get very little away fans.
:)
Little or far away, given where you usually stick us?
KevB76
09/07/2008, 5:50 PM
Little or far away, given where you usually stick us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESQ0ejN79I
:D :D :D
gufct
11/07/2008, 10:09 PM
1,119 an improvement of 250 approx on our last league game its a start but the promotion of the next league game will have to be cranked up. Over 2,000 tickets sold already for the leeds game wednesday which just drives me mad.Id say 100 sligo fans there much smaller than we would have expected.
Sam_Heggy
11/07/2008, 10:23 PM
Poor crowd in Finn Park, local press giving crowd as around 1300 but Id say more like 1000.
Summer football me arse. :rolleyes:
Rovers Maniac
11/07/2008, 10:26 PM
1,119 an improvement of 250 approx on our last league game its a start but the promotion of the next league game will have to be cranked up. Over 2,000 tickets sold already for the leeds game wednesday which just drives me mad.Id say 100 sligo fans there much smaller than we would have expected.
Terrible crowd
gufct
11/07/2008, 10:32 PM
yea terrible but id like to see how many any clubs would get more if they were rock bottom all season.
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