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brine3
29/02/2008, 11:30 AM
Kenny should be number two, no question.
Hopefully we can get him and Finnan back now that we have a proper manager.
Drumcondra 69er
29/02/2008, 12:46 PM
well done great comment, :rolleyes: Yes I expect a keeper to get to his feet as quickly as possible, it is a major part of their training. Your name sums you up by the looks of things.
You ever played the game? No keeper in the world would have been able to readjust for that. He was moving one way to deal with a shot, the shot gets deflected and could go anywhere so he's trying to follow the ball and it hits the underside of the bar and bounces down so he has to try and readjust again, impossible situation for him.
Deckydee
29/02/2008, 1:56 PM
The name sounds about right but has he declared for us?
That I dont know
beautifulrock
29/02/2008, 8:06 PM
You ever played the game? No keeper in the world would have been able to readjust for that. He was moving one way to deal with a shot, the shot gets deflected and could go anywhere so he's trying to follow the ball and it hits the underside of the bar and bounces down so he has to try and readjust again, impossible situation for him.
played more than you pal by the sounds of it. What a stupid comment. N o keeper in the world... :rolleyes:
Stuttgart88
29/02/2008, 8:35 PM
I'm with D69er though maybe not literally "no keeper in the world".
Kenny was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. If he'd left the ball it would have gone staright to the 'boro forward for a tap in. By trying to get it he knocked it in. Barely even an error, but yet an OG, one of those things that can only happen a 'keeper. I should know having played a few hundred games in the position.
C'mon, the shot hit the centre back's head, deflected down then up off the inside of the post and back across the goal line. How exactly would you have expected Kenny or anyone to react? That was one of the worst standard football games I've ever seen, Kenny's performance one of the only bright spots even for a neutral.
beautifulrock
29/02/2008, 9:26 PM
I'm with D69er though maybe not literally "no keeper in the world".
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he had a great game but it was still a goalkeeping error, my point is, and have another look, was that his reactions were slow in this instance. He already assumed the first shot was in, it hit the post and he was in the wrong position when it came back to him. I like Paddy and think he is a fine keeper but am sure even he would say he could have done a little better.
danonion
29/02/2008, 9:37 PM
I think that whole Alan Kelly shop window thing that happened to Kiely was probably why he eventually packed it in.
He, Holland and Carsley all offered their services after the Cyprus game, maybe in temporary capacity - but I think a new manager is obligated to approach our best players who are in international retirement - even if they retired 4 years ago. Finnan, O'Brien shouldn't be the only ones being coaxed. Trap should put Kiely back in the squad.
And in my opinion, Matt Holland is twice the player Lee Carsley is. :D
osarusan
01/03/2008, 12:05 AM
he had a great game but it was still a goalkeeping error, my point is, and have another look, was that his reactions were slow in this instance. He already assumed the first shot was in, it hit the post and he was in the wrong position when it came back to him. I like Paddy and think he is a fine keeper but am sure even he would say he could have done a little better.
I'd agree with that. He should have been scrambling to his feet, instead of watching the ball from the ground. Given the path the ball eventually took, I'm not sure that he'd have been able to keep it out, but he still should have been on his feet.
It's a pretty small error though, even if the consequences were serious.
Drumcondra 69er
01/03/2008, 12:29 PM
played more than you pal by the sounds of it. What a stupid comment. N o keeper in the world... :rolleyes:
Doubt that somehow judging by your comments. Look at Stutt's post, Kenny doesn't play that ball it's a tap in for the attacker. The ball changed direction twice, once off the defender and once off the woodwork, it could have gone anywhere. I have no idea what standard of keeper you reckon would have been able to smoother that if they'd been able to get back to their feet. They'd have been facing their goal with a ball bouncing in front of them, you'd want to have incredible agility to be on your feet and ready to dive on that ball.
beautifulrock
01/03/2008, 2:01 PM
Doubt that somehow judging by your comments. Look at Stutt's post, Kenny doesn't play that ball it's a tap in for the attacker. The ball changed direction twice, once off the defender and once off the woodwork, it could have gone anywhere. I have no idea what standard of keeper you reckon would have been able to smoother that if they'd been able to get back to their feet. They'd have been facing their goal with a ball bouncing in front of them, you'd want to have incredible agility to be on your feet and ready to dive on that ball.
put money on it buddy, lets agree to differ, but watch it again
Drumcondra 69er
02/03/2008, 1:12 PM
put money on it buddy, lets agree to differ, but watch it again
:D Fair enough, what'll we do, get an independent observer from KPMG to tot up how many minutes we've each played since schoolboy football yeah? :rolleyes:
Watched it again yesterday, fair enough son, we'll agree to differ.
beautifulrock
02/03/2008, 1:20 PM
:D Fair enough, what'll we do, get an independent observer from KPMG to tot up how many minutes we've each played since schoolboy football yeah? :rolleyes:
Watched it again yesterday, fair enough son, we'll agree to differ.
What a good idea and get them to do a check of your IQ while they are at it ...SON :rolleyes:
Drumcondra 69er
02/03/2008, 2:31 PM
What a good idea and get them to do a check of your IQ while they are at it ...SON :rolleyes:
Ouch, no need to resort to childish insults now is there?
Not prepared to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man so will leave it there.
beautifulrock
02/03/2008, 2:33 PM
Ouch, no need to resort to childish insults now is there?
Not prepared to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man so will leave it there.
good idea, will miss your razor sharp wit:D
Guidedbyvoices
02/03/2008, 2:58 PM
good idea, will miss your razor sharp wit:D
I see. Can’t let go can you? Just cannot admit you are wrong. If Shay Given let a goal in like this I suppose you would be on the defense. Just grow up and move on will you like a good boy.:eek:
beautifulrock
02/03/2008, 3:34 PM
I see. Can’t let go can you? Just cannot admit you are wrong. If Shay Given let a goal in like this I suppose you would be on the defense. Just grow up and move on will you like a good boy.:eek:
keep your big nose out little boy
OwlsFan
02/03/2008, 3:46 PM
I see. Can’t let go can you? Just cannot admit you are wrong. If Shay Given let a goal in like this I suppose you would be on the defense. Just grow up and move on will you like a good boy.:eek:
Let's keep American spelling out of this :p. In defence of Kenny, after Given (and Deano who has retired from international football), I think he's probably the Irish keeper playing at the highest standard of football, albeit in a struggling Sheffield United side.
Guidedbyvoices
02/03/2008, 5:01 PM
keep your big nose out little boy
Ok then. How did you know i had a big nose? Oh no i am embarrassed now shame on you.:o
backstothewall
04/03/2008, 10:24 PM
As far as i can tell Andrew Lonergan at Preston NE is qualified for us and has never been capped at any level for anyone.
OwlsFan
05/03/2008, 7:32 AM
As far as i can tell Andrew Lonergan at Preston NE is qualified for us and has never been capped at any level for anyone.
Yep, he's listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_of_Irish_descent_i n_Great_Britain&from=L
geysir
05/03/2008, 4:30 PM
You could pick out a good Diaspora X1 from that list
Paddy Garcia
05/03/2008, 8:19 PM
As far as i can tell Andrew Lonergan at Preston NE is qualified for us and has never been capped at any level for anyone.
He was in an Irish underage squad under Kerr. He then declared for England.
I read that he was "tapped up" in a hotel whilst on Irish duty!
After Given and Kenny its hit and miss.
Murphy at Bohs and Murphy at Rovers would be worth considering. Three years ago Mick Devine would have been worthy of consideration but not quite as good these days.
What age is Maik Tailor? Will Doyle be waiting long?!?
irishfan86
06/03/2008, 12:07 AM
After Given and Kenny its hit and miss.
Murphy at Bohs and Murphy at Rovers would be worth considering. Three years ago Mick Devine would have been worthy of consideration but not quite as good these days.
What age is Maik Tailor? Will Doyle be waiting long?!?
Maik Taylor's contract is up at the end of the season and Birmingham haven't renewed it yet.
This means that Doyle will take over, or more likely given the fact that Doyle isn't starting, McLeish will bring in his own keeper.
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