Sleep Paralysis

[paul_oshea]

My Brother was over the last day and alerted me to this condition, I hadn't heard of it, and just thought I was a weirdo.

Anyhow anyone ever get this?! I get it when I oversleep on a saturday or sunday morning not that often but too often all the same, one time my brother came up and opened the door when i was at home and just kept staring at me and talking, I couldn't move but I could see exactly what he was doing and hear what he was saying. When he was over I felt someone ( this is how we got talking about it )was in the room and opened the door and was talking to me and eventually woke up and said something and he thought I was talking in my sleep ( ive never done that ) but I could remember it all the next day.

The worst experience I had of it, was one night I was asleep in the bed with the girlfriend and I saw the door opening, and this guy coming in, I couldn't move or anything but in my head I really started to panic, and I was trying to tell my girlfriend to get up and get out, but I couldn't tell her ( as mouth and whole body was "paralysed" ) and the guy was coming in her side. I woke up about 2 mins or so later but it was damn scary. Whats worrying is its so real, that makes me wonder what if someone was actually coming in ( to the room ) would I actually wake up?! :eek:

[higgins]

Yeah I get this a lot.. Usually just after going asleep if I have a dream that involves my house I'd wake up thinking that what I'm dreaming about is actually real and I have to do something about it. It's happened when I've thought someone was in the house downstairs and one time when for some reason I was thinking the house was on fire!!

You wake up though fear I'd imagine but you can see things and know your awake yet your body doesn't move. I've learned now to start talking/roaring :) and that seems to kick the body into action.

Was very scary the first few times it happened to me but used to it now. I usually listen to Last Word podcasts or some other radio show while falling asleep and I guess the news stories are going into my brain while I'm going alseep and I think of these bad news stories and therefore start to dream about that issue.

Really is weird when your trying to shake like mad and nothing is moving :)

[Block G Raptor]

I've had similar experiences for a good few years now. not so much the paralysis(although I don't recall trying to move so maybe I do be paralysed) what I tend to get are what feel like waking dreams, were in the Dream I feel as though I'm awake and sometimes actually realise that I'm dreaming and can actually control the Dreams to go in what ever direction I chose them to, I usually wake up during these dreams feeling really uneasy and sometime physically sick for the rest of the day, as- while not quite being nightmares- they usually concern my insecurities ie. dreaming of my partner with someone else etc.

[jebus]

the more worrying thing for you in your lucid dreams Block is that you can control what happens, realise that, and yet still your worst fears happen

[Ash]

Used to happen to me all the time but thankfully not in the past 4 years or so.
Im my case I'd be paralysed but still feel like I was moving/being dragged off
the bed.

Frightened the bejaysus out of me for years.

[higgins]

Well it certainly does seem to be something connected with fear that wakes you up before your body is ready. It can happen to me sometimes if theres a noise such as a car alarm shortly after I go alseep and I'll start to dream about my car alarm going off and see it going off in my head in my dream, i'll get worried of course and try wake up to go down and be a hero :) but i'll wake and my body won't move for 30secs or so and eventually it'll start to move. I then hear the alarm but it's not mine of course and it could even be a house alarm in the distance or something.

In my case it's always linked with worry or fear in that dream ?

[paul_oshea]

I've had similar experiences for a good few years now. not so much the paralysis(although I don't recall trying to move so maybe I do be paralysed) what I tend to get are what feel like waking dreams, were in the Dream I feel as though I'm awake and sometimes actually realise that I'm dreaming and can actually control the Dreams to go in what ever direction I chose them to, I usually wake up during these

Block, i get this too, where i can realise its a dream and take it somewhere else, especially if its scary, i say, ah this is only a dream and either a) wake up or b) move it to another place....but the sick part doesnt happen, thats weird, though this is DEFINITELY NOT sleep paralysis....

I have tried talking, but it hasn't worked for me higgins, thank god ive never felt being dragged off ( yet ). The worst ones ive heard is where people see someone stabbing them and they cant do anything and actually feel like they are :8

I once woke up as well and saw someone sitting on the bed staring at me. IT was weird, thank god it wasnt this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0mSWZ_PMAI


Well it certainly does seem to be something connected with fear that wakes you up before your body is ready. It can happen to me sometimes if theres a noise such as a car alarm shortly after I go alseep and I'll start to dream about my car alarm going off and see it going off in my head in my dream, i'll get worried of course and try wake up to go down and be a hero but i'll wake and my body won't move for 30secs or so and eventually it'll start to move. I then hear the alarm but it's not mine of course and it could even be a house alarm in the distance or something.

thats very similar reasoning to mine.

Btw, we must all have originated from africa, as its far more common there :D

Weird thing is, I just thought like that this was some unknown thing that no one else had so never mentioned it, good to know other ppl actually get it. :)

so long as the case never happens where there is actually someone in the room and i try and tell myself its the same :8 imagine that...bejaysus.

[Block G Raptor]

the more worrying thing for you in your lucid dreams Block is that you can control what happens, realise that, and yet still your worst fears happen

It's not so much that I can control what happens all through the dream it's more towards the end i suppose it's the realisation that it's a dream is what eventually wakes me. It's the feeling that it was so real that leaves me feeling uneasy or sick . for instance I awoke last week and started to prepare for my fathers funeral it was thirty seconds or so before I realised that it had been a dream and he wasn't actually dead. stuff like that tends to play on my mind for the whole day or even day's sometimes

[osarusan]

what I tend to get are what feel like waking dreams, were in the Dream I feel as though I'm awake and sometimes actually realise that I'm dreaming and can actually control the Dreams to go in what ever direction I chose them to, I usually wake up during these dreams

I used to have exactly the same dreams, just before I woke up, where for a very short time I could control what happened in the dream.

In every instance, without fail, I tried to steer the dream in the direction of me shagging some hot girl.

I usually woke up too quickly though.

How's that for honesty!

[paul_oshea]

I used to have exactly the same dreams, just before I woke up, where for a very short time I could control what happened in the dream.

In every instance, without fail, I tried to steer the dream in the direction of me shagging some hot girl.

I usually woke up too quickly though.

How's that for honesty!

not quick enough though ;) :D

[Wolfie]

Have a child lads. That will sort out the oul sleep paralysis because you just won't sleep.

[Block G Raptor]

Have a child lads.

Literally day's away from doing Just that (or at last miss Raptor is but you get my meaning)

[Wolfie]

Literally day's away from doing Just that (or at last miss Raptor is but you get my meaning)

All the best, Block. May the force be with you.

[Aberdonian Stu]

For all the Juno fans out there...Thundercats are go

Good look to you and Mrs Raptor!

[Block G Raptor]

Thanks Guy's, hope he(yes it will be a boy I just know it) arrives in time for the Boh's Blitz on Saturday:):):)

[Lim till i die]

Literally day's away from doing Just that

Bit much isn't it??

Just to cure your sleep paralysis like?? :)

Just make sure it's a Boh's child rather than a Man U, Chelsea, etc, etc :ball:

[kingdom hoop]

yes it will be a boy I just know it

Well console yourself that it'll be a Boh anyway! :D

As for the main topic, I don't know if it's the same experience, but I often get the feeling in my sleep that my legs can't move. I've only noticed it recently enough so figured it was arising out of me neglecting to fully build my muscles back up after surgery on my cruciate. Maybe there's some deeper resonance to it, I dunno.

[jebus]

Well console yourself that it'll be a Boh anyway! :D

As for the main topic, I don't know if it's the same experience, but I often get the feeling in my sleep that my legs can't move. I've only noticed it recently enough so figured it was arising out of me neglecting to fully build my muscles back up after surgery on my cruciate. Maybe there's some deeper resonance to it, I dunno.

Probably hitting the ketamine too hard :D

[Babysis]

I still suffer frequently with troubled sleep. For me its basically a nightmare where your awake (but not quite fully enough to know its not real).
They feel so real its petrifying - People in my room / Rats on my bed - I eventually come round terrified, having reacted as if there was someone on my room etc and confused as to whether it was real or not. When I get them bad its 4 or 5 a night. The closest thing to describe it that Ive seen is sleep/night terrors. I know its caused by stress with me, and thankfully they happen less since lately so not too bad at all.

[Block G Raptor]

Bit much isn't it??

Just to cure your sleep paralysis like?? :)

Just make sure it's a Boh's child rather than a Man U, Chelsea, etc, etc :ball:

You don't need to tell me, I've a 5 year old daughter who's Boh's mad and miss Raptor has a 6 yearold son and an 8 year old daughter also Boh's mad, they've never even heard of the premiership and I plan to keep it that way

[paul_oshea]

I still suffer frequently with troubled sleep. For me its basically a nightmare where your awake (but not quite fully enough to know its not real).
They feel so real its petrifying - People in my room / Rats on my bed - I eventually come round terrified, having reacted as if there was someone on my room etc and confused as to whether it was real or not. When I get them bad its 4 or 5 a night. The closest thing to describe it that Ive seen is sleep/night terrors. I know its caused by stress with me, and thankfully they happen less since lately so not too bad at all.

That sorta stuff though happens after the night you have been out as well. Especially the rats thing, however do a wikipedia for rats end of bed dreams...

[kingdom hoop]

Probably hitting the ketamine too hard

:D:D:D

[Ash]

I still suffer frequently with troubled sleep. For me its basically a nightmare where your awake (but not quite fully enough to know its not real).
They feel so real its petrifying - People in my room / Rats on my bed - I eventually come round terrified, having reacted as if there was someone on my room etc and confused as to whether it was real or not.

Thats just the DTs :p

[osarusan]

People in my room / Rats on my bed
Easiest solution would be to move out of Ballymun.

[higgins]

Controlling the dream part usually only happens for a few seconds to me. What has happened a lot of the time is that I'll realise it's the dream and not be too worried so wait a bit until my body wakes up. When you do that you can actually just lay there and it feels very very strange, like looking out of the body of a dead person I'd imagine.

Otherwise you're trying to move and get annoyed when you can't and trying to talk and nothing is coming out and you panic!

I did have one dream where in the dream part I could see people inside my house downstairs, they started to come upstrairs and then my eyes opened but all the time I thought they were still walking up the stairs. I could see the door to the bedroom was open and was trying to shout and wriggle around to warn the girlfriend. It only went on for seconds but I could picture them on the stairs getting closer and closer and eventually just as I imagined they would have made it to the door I started to move and come around to the fact it was a dream!

Because initially I had two or three of these people in the house dreams I'm sometimes aware that I've had them as I'm trying get to sleep and this probably brings them on again!

[paul_oshea]

When you do that you can actually just lay there and it feels very very strange, like looking out of the body of a dead person I'd imagine.


Ya, weird but thats what I thought too....I read that this is what they reckon a lot of people get and think "OHHH MY GAWWWD, I had a near death experience..."

[atfconline]

Never had the feeling of someone coming into the room, but certainly get the paralysis a fair bit, not for a while though. I can never tell if I am actually awake, or just dreaming it.

[kingdom hoop]

Probably hitting the ketamine too hard :D

Was just thinking that oddly enough a lot of the experiences being described here are what friends have told me ketamine is like.

Shocking proliferation of k-heads in Foot ranks?? :p

[paul_oshea]

Never had the feeling of someone coming into the room, but certainly get the paralysis a fair bit, not for a while though. I can never tell if I am actually awake, or just dreaming it.

you should know, because it movement just occurs all of a sudden, but there is bits that are vague alright.

[Block G Raptor]

I've been having a recurring dream on and off for years now. I'd be sitting or lying down and one time was actually playing indoor football and went in for a sliding tackle and when I go to get up its as if there is no strength in my legs it a really weird feeling

[kingdom hoop]

Join the club!

I'd be trying to kick a ball, tackle, etc, but my legs rarely seem to work! I figured it might have something to do with my muscles being weak after an operation, but never really gave it a world of thought. How about you?

[Block G Raptor]

I did give it a bit of thought and reckoned it has to do with my irrational fear of ending up in a wheelchair

ps this is a bloody good thread

[kingdom hoop]

:D Well I hold no such (very irrational by the way) fears so no common link there.

Here, why don't you pay a shrink €200 to tell you what it's about and then you tell me.

[Block G Raptor]

Here, why don't you pay a shrink €200 to tell you what it's about and then you tell me.

I cant afford a shrink which may be the cause of the Dream according to the Dream Dictionary (http://dream.dictionary-dream.info/)

"If you can't use your legs, it portends poverty." (http://dream.dictionary-dream.info/content/view/1185/)

see you down the Dole office on thursday :D

[kingdom hoop]

Oh well, a lifetime of poverty it is then.

Maybe I can become Taoiseach and get friends and family to dig me out of my hole. :p

Seriously though, I think dreams are meant to be our unconscious trying to guide us in the right direction so maybe you're being told to budget for an extra mouth to feed while I must sort out a job/career for myself over the next six months. Maybe some degree of truth to it. Well at least we know now and can plan together to avoid destitution. We should make a pact; dream-brother! :D

[jebus]

Seriously though, I think dreams are meant to be our unconscious trying to guide us in the right direction

That sort of vindication has me off to America to follow my dreams and try and coax the Olsen Twins into a threesome, how could my subconscious be wrong? :)

[paul_oshea]

I did give it a bit of thought and reckoned it has to do with my irrational fear of ending up in a wheelchair

ps this is a bloody good thread

Ya, I have that fear too, getting run down and stuff, and have often been like this.

Yes, all things started by me are bloody good threads :D

[Babysis]

That sorta stuff though happens after the night you have been out as well. Especially the rats thing, however do a wikipedia for rats end of bed dreams...

If these were drink related Id stop drinking, simple as. Once it was a rat but most times its something else. Anyway, it doesnt matter, no point trying to explain - It just sounds stupid. Its not what you have, so will just leave it there. :)

[KevB76]

I had the sleep paralysis thing a few times.

First time I was staying in the spare room at a friends place, I felt a "presence" get in the bed beside me, realised I couldnt move no matter how hard I tried, then I started calling for help, I was roaring out as loud as humanly possible (but no sound came out) and after what seemed like ten minutes I woke - or so I thought. I realised I still couldnt move and after another 5 or 10 minutes of trying unsuccessfully to move my limbs I finally awoke (this time for real). I was completely freaked out by the experience, I switched on the light and couldnt get back to sleep for two or three hours out of pure fear :o

I didnt tell anyone about it, but months later it came up in conversation that my friend had a ouija board in the cupboard in that room and even though I dont believe in that stuff it still sent a shiver up my spine!

Second time I had the paralysis thing was about 4 years later staying at my parents place. Didn't have the "presence" in the bed this time but still found it very unsettling.

Last time it happened I sort of realised what was going on so I rode it out so to speak.

My brother-in-law said he'd heard of that sort of thing before and some people say its due to having a bad spirit in the house, again I dont believe in that stuff but its not what you want to hear!!

I'm just relieved to know I'm not the only one who gets this :)

[beautifulrock]

good grief, what a weird bunch you lot are :) Footie is the place to go to make you feel normal and sane. I dont get any of this thankfully but am a very light sleeper, a mouse farting would wake me.

[gilberto_eire]

I've had similar experiences for a good few years now. not so much the paralysis(although I don't recall trying to move so maybe I do be paralysed) what I tend to get are what feel like waking dreams, were in the Dream I feel as though I'm awake and sometimes actually realise that I'm dreaming and can actually control the Dreams to go in what ever direction I chose them to, I usually wake up during these dreams feeling really uneasy and sometime physically sick for the rest of the day, as- while not quite being nightmares- they usually concern my insecurities ie. dreaming of my partner with someone else etc.

The topic situation seldom happens to me, although the highlighted part applies to me!!

If i have a nightmare i can wake myself out of them now, in my dream i close my eyes and try to force them open but holding them down(if ya get me?) and ill actually wake up, the main problem then is to keep me eyes open for about 10-15secs to avoid going straight back into the same nightmare again!! :D

I know im dreaming most of them time, but i can't just say to myself ''ill rob a car'' but id still agree with the statement

One time i met my now deceased(6yrs) grandad(this was about a yr ago) and i was chatting to him as we walked, got to a point where i could'nt pass(since he had died and i had not) and he was just about to disappear and i remember saying ''Tell me something i can say to someone to prove this is real'' and he told me ''Tell your mother its ok/im not mad'' something similiar to that. One night i was drinking with all the family and at the end of the night it popped into my head, so i decided to just tell her, she started roaring crying, i asked her did it make sense and she told me they had a big fight before he died and they never made up:eek:..... Needless to say i was freaked out!!

[paul_oshea]

Last time it happened I sort of realised what was going on so I rode it out so to speak.

Kev, i was reading the first half of your post with a dropped jaw, but as soon as I read this, I just couldn't stop laughing....I think its partly to do with the word "presence" previously mentioned in the post :D

[Block G Raptor]

Had a really weird controllable Dream last night. I was smuggling Cocaine through Boston airport:eek:and in the dream I knew I was going to be caught started to freak out and controlled the dream so that I went to the bathroom's in the airport and flushed the stuff! Too much watching banged up abroad me thinks

[jebus]

Kev, i was reading the first half of your post with a dropped jaw, but as soon as I read this, I just couldn't stop laughing....I think its partly to do with the word "presence" previously mentioned in the post :D

Same here :D:D

[paul_oshea]

The one thing since I have started reading about this, that hasn't been answered, is if someone were to "actually" shake you or touch you, would you snap out of it, when ive been having this I always hope someone will in the hope that I "snap out of it" so to speak...

I'm just looking forward to the one that happens, when a really fit blonde one jumps into the bed beside me, I can still enjoy the experience in my mind even if "I" cant move. :D

[Block G Raptor]

The one thing since I have started reading about this, that hasn't been answered, is if someone were to "actually" shake you or touch you, would you snap out of it, when ive been having this I always hope someone will in the hope that I "snap out of it" so to speak...

I don't know the definitive answer to that. I do know however that during one particularly bad nightmare(I must have been tossing and turning) Miss Raptor tried to shake me awake and apparently I started blindly swinging punches:eek:thank god none of them connected with her:o although it did scare the bejaysus out her