Ireland to face Colombia - London, 29th May

[paul_oshea]

Same for Loftus Road too, I believe - packed for the friendly during the Summer, good place for a crowd, right in on the pitch.

There or Craven Cottage would suit me down to the ground.

ya, same as bluebeard!

Loftus road would be handier for me ( and most id say, getting in and out of fulham is more difficult ), but the pubs are better id reckon around( near ) fulham ( only problem is it gets all the new age Irish there, city yuppies - south dublin types/pbs/cbs cork rugby heads )!

good one sligo_hornet!! Id say the "hornets" are a lot sounder ( dont know about the looks though :D )

[greendeiseboy]

Columbia - that should be great Crack:o

[amaccann]

Columbia - that should be great Crack:o
*groan*

[Deckydee]

Come on Decky,

QPR fans should know that Loftus Road, the Mecca of Football has a capacity of 19,184.....all seater stadium since 1994-95 season.

Maybe Martin Rowlands might get a game

Plenty of Irish Pubs in Shepards Bush

UUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS:D

Indeed I know! ;)

Off there myself on March 15th for the Scunny game, should be having a meeting with Paladini to discuss a matter or two, more to be revealed later! :cool:

Also, the place is full of Irish Pubs! To list but a few:

The British Queen (http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/56/5639/British_Queen/Shepherds_Bush) - For some reason known as an Irish pub. Has some sort of a Celtic following. Have drank there and see no problem with it

The Coningham Arms - My second favourite Irish pub in W12. Go there whenever I can on game days. Big Celtic flag behind bar and Irish staff. Large and plenty of space

O'Donoghues - Described as where you would find guys like Fr Jack Hackett - Not recommended

The Springbok - Not Irish, just said I would mention it. Complete kip. Great on match day though

The White Horse (http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/51/5153/White_Horse/Shepherds_Bush) - My favourite. Great Pint if you are a Guinness drinker. Clare Hurling Team of 1995/1997 on one side and a QPR flag on the other side. No wonder why it is my favourite!

O'Neills - A good place to go can find no faults

The Prince - A good place to go and again can find no faults

There is a load more but I cant say I know them of have been to them

[John2626]

To be honest, don't understand why we need to play in London. Would rather just arrange an away match with some other nation in Europe. dont agree with a friendly abroad and trying to pass it off as a home match.

[boovidge]

^I'd agree if i didnt live in England :p

[Greenforever]

Had they have played the Unity Cup matches in the 'spiritual heartland' of Shepherd's Bush, the games would have been sold out, I can assure you. ;)

Modern and pleasant as The Valley is, Charlton is neither accessible nor accommodating.

:ball: PP

Cant believe what Im reading, if you live in the greater London area and cant get to any stadium in London you're not much of a supporter, was at both unity cup games, crap crowd for both it must be said but 2 great sessions in some boozer beside the ground, worst part of the trip was stuck in stanstead for hours on the ground when air traffic control crashed, took 11 hours to get to amsterdam but Robbie Keanes goal made up for it :D

previous poster's comment about stadium of light while I reckon he / she was having a laugh we would get a great crowd up their, they love Quinn, and all things Irish and had a great few days in 2002 pre heading to Japan / korea.

[stiofain]

Cant believe what Im reading, if you live in the greater London area and cant get to any stadium in London you're not much of a supporter, was at both unity cup games, crap crowd for both it must be said but 2 great sessions in some boozer beside the ground, worst part of the trip was stuck in stanstead for hours on the ground when air traffic control crashed, took 11 hours to get to amsterdam but Robbie Keanes goal made up for it :D

previous poster's comment about stadium of light while I reckon he / she was having a laugh we would get a great crowd up their, they love Quinn, and all things Irish and had a great few days in 2002 pre heading to Japan / korea.

Totally agree, I was at the two games myself and the crowd was very disappointing. To say The Valley is not accessable isnt an excuse for such a poor turnout.

[Pauro 76]

Great news if that's true personally! If its true, will there be a group of foot.ie heads going? Another famous Shepherd's Bush instituation. Shepherds Bush Walkabout.

[Plastic Paddy]

Cant believe what Im reading, if you live in the greater London area and cant get to any stadium in London you're not much of a supporter

I stand by my comments. It's clear that not everyone has your level of dedication or inclination, which goes some way to explain why the stadium was mostly empty for each Unity Cup game.

:ball: PP

[GavinZac]

To be honest, don't understand why we need to play in London. Would rather just arrange an away match with some other nation in Europe. dont agree with a friendly abroad and trying to pass it off as a home match.

I don't even agree with staging an away game. What bloody harm would it do holding it in an Irish stadium? Loss of income for an unscheduled game? Loftus Road and the surrounding area are a dump.

[NeilMcD]

To me it should be an away game against a Balkan team if possible we need as much practice at playing away games as possible. I think we will learn very little by playing in London versus Columbia.

[cavan_fan]

I don't even agree with staging an away game. What bloody harm would it do holding it in an Irish stadium? Loss of income for an unscheduled game? Loftus Road and the surrounding area are a dump.

I dont know if the same rules apply for friendlies and competitive games but there are non non GAA grounds in Ireland where you would be allowed host a competitive game

[GavinZac]

I dont know if the same rules apply for friendlies and competitive games but there are non non GAA grounds in Ireland where you would be allowed host a competitive game

Why would we not be allowed to host a competitive or friendly game in, say, Turner's Cross? Given that its hosted competitive Champions League and U21 games, and that some of the national stadiums in UEFA would be United Park-esque.

[NeilMcD]

I guess the reason they do not host a full senior international game at say Turners Cross is to do with the block booking system and ticketing. They would find it hard to deal with the ticketing. I am not saying this is right but that is the reason.

[amaccann]

What about staging it in Glasgow, or the Millennium Stadium? The Wales venue would at least make it much handier for Irish fans to simply nip over on the boat to the game.

[cavan_fan]

Why would we not be allowed to host a competitive or friendly game in, say, Turner's Cross? Given that its hosted competitive Champions League and U21 games, and that some of the national stadiums in UEFA would be United Park-esque.

Just not sure of the rules, anyone know?

[NeilMcD]

What about staging it in Glasgow, or the Millennium Stadium? The Wales venue would at least make it much handier for Irish fans to simply nip over on the boat to the game.

Could you imagine what a **** atmosphere it would be in Cardiff if we had say 10,000 in an 80,000 all seater stadium, not to mention the costs etc and loss of money. Glasgow would make more sense.

Plus how is it more handier to nip across on a boat for a 3 hour journey followed by another 3 hour journesy the other side compared to a 1 hour flight to London and a 1 hour trip to the venue.

[amaccann]

Could you imagine what a **** atmosphere it would be in Cardiff if we had say 10,000 in an 80,000 all seater stadium, not to mention the costs etc and loss of money. Glasgow would make more sense.

Plus how is it more handier to nip across on a boat for a 3 hour journey followed by another 3 hour journesy the other side compared to a 1 hour flight to London and a 1 hour trip to the venue.
True I guess, though what with the hype and excitement about Trap, you *might* get a fair few going to Cardiff. Maybe. Possibly. But yes, London probably makes the most sense.

[noby]

I would imagine the cost to rent Loftus Road (or wherever) for the day would be a a fair bit cheaper than Cardiff.

[ifk101]

If it's a "home" international I think the FAI should endeavour to have the game played in Ireland.

Surely the RDS is as good an option as Loftus Rd. for the game. Perhaps even Thomond Park could be used or one of the more suitable LOI grounds such as Turner's Cross. Considering that the FAI has rarely used venues outside of Dublin for senior home international (obvious practical reasons for this) why not take the opportunity now that they can. John Delaney has made it clear that the FAI's budget is in fine financial health so there no underlying financial need to have the game played outside of Ireland.

[tetsujin1979]

What about staging it in Glasgow, or the Millennium Stadium? The Wales venue would at least make it much handier for Irish fans to simply nip over on the boat to the game.
Won't the Millenium Stadium be in use for the Heineken Cup final around that time?

[NeilMcD]

If it's a "home" international I think the FAI should endeavour to have the game played in Ireland.

Surely the RDS is as good an option as Loftus Rd. for the game. Perhaps even Thomond Park could be used or one of the more suitable LOI grounds such as Turner's Cross. Considering that the FAI has rarely used venues outside of Dublin for senior home international (obvious practical reasons for this) why not take the opportunity now that they can. John Delaney has made it clear that the FAI's budget is in fine financial health so there no underlying financial need to have the game played outside of Ireland.

I am guessing the reason is the one I have said above. It is a ticketing issue and it could create more bad feeling amongst block bookers if they could not go and it would break a promise that the FAI have to the block bookers. That is the reason for it.

[Superhoops]

Perhaps Columbia don't want to come to Ireland.

The are playing France on the following Tuesday in Paris and are probably using London as a 'hub' for gathering their players together, as several other teams have done in the past.

[lopez]

Columbia - that should be great Crack:oWe should have played them at Coke Park! ... My coat again!

[GavinZac]

I am guessing the reason is the one I have said above. It is a ticketing issue and it could create more bad feeling amongst block bookers if they could not go and it would break a promise that the FAI have to the block bookers. That is the reason for it.

In fairness, I'm sure they would get over 1 unscheduled friendly at a small ground being excluded from the block bookers scheme - after all, doesnt the block booker scheme punish people who fail to take tickets for a game? what about the block bookers who wont be able to make it to london? must they buy a ticket or risk dropping down the queue?

Its a pipe dream I guess, but I really can't imagine any other national association showing such a lack of dignity. Ah well, I suppose we'll have to wait for the Arkaga bowl whenever it shows up.

The Irish u21s used to love playing in Turners Cross because it was the one place they'd get a full, supportive crowd. By now Givens has run even that into the ground.

[NeilMcD]

In fairness, I'm sure they would get over 1 unscheduled friendly at a small ground being excluded from the block bookers scheme - after all, doesnt the block booker scheme punish people who fail to take tickets for a game? what about the block bookers who wont be able to make it to london? must they buy a ticket or risk dropping down the queue?

Its a pipe dream I guess, but I really can't imagine any other national association showing such a lack of dignity. Ah well, I suppose we'll have to wait for the Arkaga bowl whenever it shows up.

The Irish u21s used to love playing in Turners Cross because it was the one place they'd get a full, supportive crowd. By now Givens has run even that into the ground.

You clearly dont know how the block booking works. It only applies to home games, so if there was a game in London, nobody would be punished for not going as it would not be classified as a home game. As long as you take tickets for home matches you stay on the list you are on. Also punish is a strong term, if somebody does not take a ticket, that ticket is then given to somebody who is prepared to take tickets for every match.


I know I would be ****ed off if I could not get a ticket for a game in Ireland. Also I am not sure if you are on the block booking list but if you are not, then you would not have much chance of getting a ticket anyway for the game in an Eircom League ground.


Also did we not play England in Turners Cross in November. We must have as I was there, unless I am going mad. Has Givens made comments since then that he does not want any games in Turners Cross, I must have missed that.

[GavinZac]

You clearly dont know how the block booking works. It only applies to home games, so if there was a game in London, nobody would be punished for not going as it would not be classified as a home game.I have a fair idea actually, for someone who wouldnt really be in a position to attend games elsewhere. I was assuming it would be classified as a home game. If the FAI are arranging it, and the other team are going whereever the FAI say, and the FAI decide "lets play it in london", it would be a home game, as would the mooted games in liverpool have been had they gone ahead?
Would you feel entitled to tickets for such a game?


I know I would be ****ed off if I could not get a ticket for a game in Ireland. Also I am not sure if you are on the block booking list but if you are not, then you would not have much chance of getting a ticket anyway for the game in an Eircom League ground. Why would you be ****ed off? If its a game added in at the last moment and its a gesture for the sake of pointing out that not every ground in the LoI is a kip (by then, TC will hopefully be the first all-seated, all-roofed soccer stadium on the island... including any national stadium), or a gesture to try to attract some non-Dublin centred support from people who rarely if ever get to see their national team... rather than evacuating to Shepards Bush because they're embarressed by their distinct lack of riches elsewhere, surely as an LoI supporter you wouldnt be too worried? Especially considering the pathetic sub-EL capacity attendences in previous London games.


Also did we not play England in Turners Cross in November. We must have as I was there, unless I am going mad.Yeah, I was there too. In front of a small crowd, very few of whom actually paid in, and most of whom had little time for givens/Ireland. a fair whack of them were moronic celtic fans there to boo the English national anthem and little else.

[NeilMcD]

I have a fair idea actually, for someone who wouldnt really be in a position to attend games elsewhere. I was assuming it would be classified as a home game. If the FAI are arranging it, and the other team are going whereever the FAI say, and the FAI decide "lets play it in london", it would be a home game, as would the mooted games in liverpool have been had they gone ahead?
Would you feel entitled to tickets for such a game?

Why would you be ****ed off? If its a game added in at the last moment and its a gesture for the sake of pointing out that not every ground in the LoI is a kip (by then, TC will hopefully be the first all-seated, all-roofed soccer stadium on the island... including any national stadium), or a gesture to try to attract some non-Dublin centred support from people who rarely if ever get to see their national team... rather than evacuating to Shepards Bush because they're embarressed by their distinct lack of riches elsewhere, surely as an LoI supporter you wouldnt be too worried? Especially considering the pathetic sub-EL capacity attendences in previous London games.

Yeah, I was there too. In front of a small crowd, very few of whom actually paid in, and most of whom had little time for givens/Ireland. a fair whack of them were moronic celtic fans there to boo the English national anthem and little else.



If we play in London it will not be classified as a home game and it will not be in the block booking scheme. I guarantee that.

Also if they were to play in any Eircom League ground I would like it to be in the home of Irish football and to be in Dalymount and for the FAI to pay Bohs the money for using the ground.

That way I could get to the game easy and I would almost certainly get a ticket as a block booker and as a member of Bohs.

However if the game was in Cork I would be ****ed off if I could not get a ticket for the game, simple as that. I want to go to the games and if I could not go because of lack of ticket I would be ****ed off.

[GavinZac]

If we play in London it will not be classified as a home game and it will not be in the block booking scheme. I guarantee that.

Also if they were to play in any Eircom League ground I would like it to be in the home of Irish football and to be in Dalymount and for the FAI to pay Bohs the money for using the ground.

That way I could get to the game easy and I would almost certainly get a ticket as a block booker and as a member of Bohs.

However if the game was in Cork I would be ****ed off if I could not get a ticket for the game, simple as that. I want to go to the games and if I could not go because of lack of ticket I would be ****ed off.

Dalymount is one of the kips I was referring to, half the stadium is unsightly and unusable and the "shed" wouldn't exactly be welcoming to first timers. The capacity is as limited as TC and if it were to be played in Dublin, surely the RDS would take priority, as it has in recent Cup finals?

[Greenforever]

Dalymount is one of the kips I was referring to, half the stadium is unsightly and unusable and the "shed" wouldn't exactly be welcoming to first timers. The capacity is as limited as TC and if it were to be played in Dublin, surely the RDS would take priority, as it has in recent Cup finals?

And exactly who would the first timers be if played in Dalyer :D tickets would be like golddust 30,000 blockbookers into less than 10,000 tickets after sponsors were looked after. And I would'ne need a ticket, i found a back way in for the Italy game all those years ago through a neighbours garden:D

[Greenforever]

I have a fair idea actually, for someone who wouldnt really be in a position to attend games elsewhere. I was assuming it would be classified as a home game. If the FAI are arranging it, and the other team are going whereever the FAI say, and the FAI decide "lets play it in london", it would be a home game, as would the mooted games in liverpool have been had they gone ahead?
Would you feel entitled to tickets for such a game?

Why would you be ****ed off? If its a game added in at the last moment and its a gesture for the sake of pointing out that not every ground in the LoI is a kip (by then, TC will hopefully be the first all-seated, all-roofed soccer stadium on the island... including any national stadium), or a gesture to try to attract some non-Dublin centred support from people who rarely if ever get to see their national team... rather than evacuating to Shepards Bush because they're embarressed by their distinct lack of riches elsewhere, surely as an LoI supporter you wouldnt be too worried? Especially considering the pathetic sub-EL capacity attendences in previous London games.

Yeah, I was there too. In front of a small crowd, very few of whom actually paid in, and most of whom had little time for givens/Ireland. a fair whack of them were moronic celtic fans there to boo the English national anthem and little else.


First the previous games in London were a cup competition featuring 3 nations at a neutral venue, and yes the games and attendences were crap but then so where they in the US last summer

Second there are very few sell out games in Ireland so I dont suscribe to this cant get a ticket theory, for virtually all games the FAI are selling tickets in the last few days before the match, being the visitors unsold tickets, so like Neil I would be very ****ed if i couldnt get a ticket for a game weather in Ireland or not, and yes it may be nice to add another venue for a full international to my collection of Dalyer, Lansdowne, Tolka, RDS and Croker

Third, as previously posted what has Givens done wrong, does anyone know his job is to give players experience and results at U21 dont matter a shi* and count for absoloutley nothing

Lastly I wonder was it the Cork fans of Celtic booing the English Anthem as it was such a small crowd from the peoples republic:D I doubt if any travelled down from Dublin as they wouldnt even have known the game was on!!

[GavinZac]

Second there are very few sell out games in Ireland so I dont suscribe to this cant get a ticket theoryI didnt say I couldnt get a ticket, or people who dont normally get to see the national team cant get tickets. Its just impossible for myself and most people I know to make it to Dublin and back for games. I manage a few but generally its when I'm in Dublin for some other reason at the same time.


Lastly I wonder was it the Cork fans of Celtic booing the English Anthem as it was such a small crowd from the peoples republic:D I doubt if any travelled down from Dublin as they wouldnt even have known the game was on!!
yeah i'd imagine they were people from Cork... probably the type of people who had to ask for directions to Turners Cross.

[Deckydee]

I don't even agree with staging an away game. What bloody harm would it do holding it in an Irish stadium? Loss of income for an unscheduled game? Loftus Road and the surrounding area are a dump.

Tell you something, you would not want to be sensitive on this board

[ifk101]

Tell you something, you would not want to be sensetive on this board

???

It's embarrassing that people are being ridiculed for supporting their own local team and the development of local football. I think the staging of a full senior international in an LOI ground would be a great boost to encouraging the further development of LOI grounds and local football in general. I think it would be a great initiative and would introduce, for the first time, countless numbers of Irish fans to a LOI ground.

Anyways I think NeilMcD is right about the booking issue and that's the most likely reason why the FAI are looking at playing in London. However if this is not the case and the game is being organised by the FAI, the match should be played in Ireland.

[GavinZac]

It's embarrassing that people are being ridiculed for supporting their own local team and the development of local football. I think the staging of a full senior international in an LOI ground would be a great boost to encouraging the further development of LOI grounds and local football in general. I think it would be a great initiative and would introduce, for the first time, countless numbers of Irish fans to a LOI ground.
We can cross our fingers and hope for a game if/when we get our planned new 28,000 seat stadium down here in Cork. Having that sort of an outlet for these situations would surely be preferable than playing it in a corrugate iron box in west london?

[Bluebeard]

Convenient as it would be for e to have the game in London, I would rather see enough suitable grounds in Ireland to take games, ideally outside of the capital. Currently, it looks as though Cork City are in the best suited of those. I think it would be a big advantage to the game in Ireland to be able to move thegames around.

Sadly the country's infrastructure is still not up to the knocker despite the combination of European funding and the amount of money we are told is in the economy.

It does also lead to the question of why, if there would be 30,000 people willing to fight over tickets for a meaningless friendly, is it so rare to get over 4,000 people at a local level game. Especially when you think back to the 60s and 70s when league games occasionally tipped 20,000, yet attendances at international games were seldom much more?

[NeilMcD]

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It's embarrassing that people are being ridiculed for supporting their own local team and the development of local football. I think the staging of a full senior international in an LOI ground would be a great boost to encouraging the further development of LOI grounds and local football in general. I think it would be a great initiative and would introduce, for the first time, countless numbers of Irish fans to a LOI ground.

Anyways I think NeilMcD is right about the booking issue and that's the most likely reason why the FAI are looking at playing in London. However if this is not the case and the game is being organised by the FAI, the match should be played in Ireland.



Who ridiculed who because the support their local team and if they did that is bang out of order.

I am not against staging games in LOI grounds but I was just explaining the reason why it will not happen. Of course we would all love a situation where there was suitable grounds for Ireland to play around the country and that the LOI was getting average gates of 15,000 a week. That would be great. Sadly it is not the case.

[ifk101]

Who ridiculed who because the support their local team and if they did that is bang out of order.

I am not against staging games in LOI grounds but I was just explaining the reason why it will not happen. Of course we would all love a situation where there was suitable grounds for Ireland to play around the country and that the LOI was getting average gates of 15,000 a week. That would be great. Sadly it is not the case.

I quoted DeekyDee as I felt his comment about sensitivity was a bit flippant to GavinZac's opinion. But I read "between the lines" too often so apologies to DeekyDee as it's not clear he's riduculing GavinZac's support of local football.

Yes I agree that your point about the ticketing issue is valid. Ireland will never play around the country so to speak as the FAI is investing in their own international standard ground - Lansdowne. It wouldn't make financial sense to move games around, even if there existed the possibility. But with the announcement of an unscheduled game the possibility to play a match in a LOI ground exists. And that's all I want to say - if ticketing isn't an issue and the FAI is organising the game, the match should be played in Ireland. I'm sure our local publicans would agree with me. :D

[Billsthoughts]

I think its a great idea to play the game somewhere like Cork or Galway. As a block booker I wouldnt have any objection. The pros of giving people outside of Dublin the chance to watch their own team in action far outweigh the cons of any financial concerns. Some things cant be measured in euros. Would be a good idea to have one of these games every year. The national team belongs to everyone. Might add a bit of atmosphere/occasion to what would be otherwise meaningless friendlies.

[Morbo]

I think its a great idea to play the game somewhere like Cork or Galway. As a block booker I wouldnt have any objection. The pros of giving people outside of Dublin the chance to watch their own team in action far outweigh the cons of any financial concerns. Some things cant be measured in euros. Would be a good idea to have one of these games every year. The national team belongs to everyone. Might add a bit of atmosphere/occasion to what would be otherwise meaningless friendlies.
Good point, It might also help promote the game in parts of the country where its losing ground to GAA and Rugby which would be a financial gain for the FAI on the long run

[Bondvillain]

I quoted DeekyDee as I felt his comment about sensitivity was a bit flippant to GavinZac's opinion. But I read "between the lines" too often so apologies to DeekyDee as it's not clear he's riduculing GavinZac's support of local football.



I took the Deckydee post to be an off-the-cuff defence of the Loftus Road area. (which was described in the post he referenced as a 'dump')

[Deckydee]

I took the Deckydee post to be an off-the-cuff defence of the Loftus Road area. (which was described in the post he referenced as a 'dump')

Yes, that is correct, I was defending QPR :)


I quoted DeekyDee as I felt his comment about sensitivity was a bit flippant to GavinZac's opinion. But I read "between the lines" too often so apologies to DeekyDee as it's not clear he's riduculing GavinZac's support of local football.

Apology accepted :D

[Bondvillain]

Anything concrete on whether it's Columbia in Loftus road then?

Theres a load of sites claiming it's guaranteed & quoting the examiner, but I cant find any reference to it on the examiner site...

[Greenforever]

We can cross our fingers and hope for a game if/when we get our planned new 28,000 seat stadium down here in Cork. Having that sort of an outlet for these situations would surely be preferable than playing it in a corrugate iron box in west london?

I would be delighted to see a full international played in such a stadium, even a qualifier, to be honest playing Italy in such a venue would be preferable to Croker at times provided the real fans got the tickets


Definition - real fans - those that sing for 90+ minutes win lose or draw:D

[Greenforever]

Convenient as it would be for e to have the game in London, I would rather see enough suitable grounds in Ireland to take games, ideally outside of the capital. Currently, it looks as though Cork City are in the best suited of those. I think it would be a big advantage to the game in Ireland to be able to move thegames around.

Sadly the country's infrastructure is still not up to the knocker despite the combination of European funding and the amount of money we are told is in the economy.

It does also lead to the question of why, if there would be 30,000 people willing to fight over tickets for a meaningless friendly, is it so rare to get over 4,000 people at a local level game. Especially when you think back to the 60s and 70s when league games occasionally tipped 20,000, yet attendances at international games were seldom much more?

In my case it's probably hard to feel the same allegience to a club who will probably change 75% of it's players every 2 to 3 years as the players go from a to b to c etc

Mind you dont ever remeber 20,000 at milltown in the 70s, i would say 10,000 was a great crowd in those days and mainly for Dubin derbys

[gwhite]

Anything concrete on whether it's Columbia in Loftus road then?

Theres a load of sites claiming it's guaranteed & quoting the examiner, but I cant find any reference to it on the examiner site...

Mentioned here; http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=31123

[geysir]

If there are a few friendlies arranged at the end of the season, I'll take a guess and say that there won't be too many withdrawals due to the first cousin of the brother's wife getting married.

[Greenforever]

Ryanair flights just €10 inc taxes out 28th back 29th, worth taking a chance and booking.

[NeilMcD]

Thats 10 euro one way, 20 euro in total, ha ha , total rip off