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Bosco
17/02/2008, 11:36 PM
Just looking to clarify what the story is with oranised controlled displays?I know rovers used to hold them and not get fined.Whats the story with them now?Would the fai still turn a blind eye if they were controlled?

Nipper
18/02/2008, 1:39 AM
Orgaised displays?

Oranised displays?

What fresh madness is this?

noby
18/02/2008, 7:43 AM
I'm sure displays are fine as long as you don't use flares; especially orangised ones.

Ash
18/02/2008, 10:34 AM
From what I can remember, any flares display etc have to be
supervised by a fire officer and licenced pyrotechnics technician.

Lim till i die
18/02/2008, 10:35 AM
licenced pyrotechnics technician.

Is there a FAS course one could do?? :)

Ash
18/02/2008, 10:37 AM
Is there a FAS course one could do?? :)
:D
I read somewhere online that theres an event licence you can get
for firework displays in conjunction with the Gardai or something.

Wangball
18/02/2008, 12:28 PM
Is that not were six fella's with balaclava's stand over a coffin firing pistols into the air??? They do that at EL games now??!

half_full
18/02/2008, 3:48 PM
Depends on the club really, I know Bohs got permission for smoke last year but from past experience you would only be bringing trouble on yourself by mentioning it to the gards, and even some club officials (depending on the club). Probably best to do it without telling anyone and if there is a fine pay it amongst yourselves. Although there is a pyrotechnics training coarse in Clare I think, again you could still be caught with permission from your club though.

Another great example of how the FAI do their best to ruin football in this country:mad: Delaney and co. are really doing their best to destroy the Ultra scene here, the league will be a corporate, family friendly, no standing disgrace like the English leagues if supporters don't stand up to this harassment.

osarusan
18/02/2008, 4:02 PM
Another great example of how the FAI do their best to ruin football in this country:mad: Delaney and co. are really doing their best to destroy the Ultra scene here, the league will be a corporate, family friendly, no standing disgrace like the English leagues if supporters don't stand up to this harassment.

Those bloody families ruining our league.:mad: Why can't they take their 60-80 euros somewhere else?

forza rovers
18/02/2008, 4:06 PM
Those bloody families ruining our league.:mad: Why can't they take their 60-80 euros somewhere else?€60 would just the parents into the g.a.a match

half_full
18/02/2008, 4:09 PM
Those bloody families ruining our league.:mad:

Not having a go at families at all, in fact I shouldn't have put it in, but, the FAI are marketing the league towards them, a lot. Think about it: wouldn't it suit them to have lots of people sitting politely and clapping occasionally rather than large groups of people creating atmosphere.



Bosco, the odds on getting permission seem to be a toss of a coin

dcfcsteve
18/02/2008, 4:57 PM
Not having a go at families at all, in fact I shouldn't have put it in, but, the FAI are marketing the league towards them, a lot. Think about it: wouldn't it suit them to have lots of people sitting politely and clapping occasionally rather than large groups of people creating atmosphere.



Or maybe it's because families include children ?

You remember them - the sort who will grow up to become the fans of tomorrow and keep all our clubs alive ? The sort who parents stopped taking to LOI games from c. the 1970's onwards, which has led to the league being the support-less mess it has been ever since....

Red Army
18/02/2008, 6:30 PM
Just looking to clarify what the story is with oranised controlled displays?I know rovers used to hold them and not get fined.Whats the story with them now?Would the fai still turn a blind eye if they were controlled?

You mean tifo displays yeah? If you use pyro you will get fined but that doesn't mean the club will have to pay it. But their is more to displays then just pyro. Try something else if you don't have the balls:D

The FAI is doing their best clamp down on the ultras movement here but if groups have the right mentality the will only get stronger:cool:

oldyouth
18/02/2008, 7:38 PM
Or maybe it's because families include children ?

You remember them - the sort who will grow up to become the fans of tomorrow and keep all our clubs alive ? The sort who parents stopped taking to LOI games from c. the 1970's onwards, which has led to the league being the support-less mess it has been ever since....

I agree. I never go without at least one of my sons, and sometimes the missus. What behaviour do 'fans' want to get up to that isn't family friendly?? Singing, chanting, cheering, giving out loads is suitable for all ages.

Lim till i die
18/02/2008, 8:11 PM
What behaviour do 'fans' want to get up to that isn't family friendly?? Singing, chanting, cheering, giving out loads is suitable for all ages.

Well in the case of us Limerick fans you would have to include drinking, smoking and occasionally blowing stuff up.

But then the Jacks is a big place, just keep the families away from the singers, the singers away from the families and everyones happy.

I've no problem with families at football.

What I do have a major problem with is kids roaming the terraces doing anything but watching the game.

Some grounds are like fuppin kiddie discos.

And the attitudes of the mammys and daddys are something to behold aswell. Some people need to realise that their children are their responsibility.

I'm already looking forward to the kerfuffle when little Ryan\Jacinta\Demika\Jayden has his/her hand blown off in the Shed, or trips on a step, or chokes on a hot dog etc etc...

You can be certain of one thing and that's that it wont be their parents fault :mad:


Rant Over :)

half_full
18/02/2008, 8:13 PM
Exactly Old Youth, but the powers that be would rather everyone sitting down without any of that. The excuse would be that its not 'family friendly' sorry about any confusion I caused with my earlier post. Some clubs in England (Reading and Plymouth for example) have used the 'family friendly' card to turf out as many that they can who stand, even though as you said singing and shouting knows no age.

My post should have read: corporate all seater disgrace:o

Lim till i die
18/02/2008, 8:15 PM
My post should have read: corporate all seater disgrace:o

Limerick would suit you down to the ground my man.

Dirty.

Lawless.

Smelly.

Unsafe.

No Seating Area.




And don't even get me started on the football ground............

half_full
18/02/2008, 8:21 PM
I remember when people could stand on the old track at the RSC, you would have 4 or 5 groups of youngones and youngfellas about 14 to 16 that would do laps of the track during the match having chats as they met on their circuts:D None of them looked at the pitch unless a goal had been scored, stranger still was the fact a lot of them were kitted out in fairly expensive club gear.

half_full
18/02/2008, 8:23 PM
Limerick would suit you down to the ground my man.

Dirty.

Lawless.

Smelly.

Unsafe.

No Seating Area.




And don't even get me started on the football ground............

Nice cant wait for the away games there:D:cool:

oldyouth
18/02/2008, 9:14 PM
Exactly Old Youth, but the powers that be would rather everyone sitting down without any of that. The excuse would be that its not 'family friendly' sorry about any confusion I caused with my earlier post. Some clubs in England (Reading and Plymouth for example) have used the 'family friendly' card to turf out as many that they can who stand, even though as you said singing and shouting knows no age.

My post should have read: corporate all seater disgrace:o

Everyone and anyone is allowed stand at our ground. We don't have any seats yet............:D

sligoman
19/02/2008, 12:28 AM
Lim til i die...what exactly do ye blow up at games?:D

Lim till i die
19/02/2008, 9:38 AM
Lim til i die...what exactly do ye blow up at games?:D

Cheap imported explosives mainly

The sligoman in you was thinking sheep wasn't it?? ;) :p

deecay
19/02/2008, 4:12 PM
Cheap imported explosives mainly
Now that is just class

sligoman
19/02/2008, 10:24 PM
Cheap imported explosives mainlyThis is from your Florida contacts was it?:D

and no, wasn't thinking sheep, need to go a little further north to think that;)

Lim till i die
20/02/2008, 12:19 PM
This is from your Florida contacts was it?

Florida contacts?? :confused:

Think more Eastern Europe ;) :)

sligoman
20/02/2008, 12:34 PM
Florida contacts?? :confused:

Think more Eastern Europe ;)Ah rite. Just remember you saying before about a guy that bought stuff in a US navy/marine shop of some sort:D

Lim till i die
20/02/2008, 12:51 PM
Ah rite. Just remember you saying before about a guy that bought stuff in a US navy/marine shop of some sort:D

US Marine surplus stock ;)

And I suppose "bought" is one way of describing how it was laid hands on.............. :)

placid casual
20/02/2008, 1:04 PM
reading some of the threads on these forums is like wading through treacle.:rolleyes:
anyways.... in answer to the question posed at the beginning of the thread.
Rovers last had a display for the home game with drogs.
a hockey load of flares.along with normal flags,tickertape etc was used.
Rovers got fined the sum total of €100 .
since there was approx. 750 german fans at the game,and the income generated would cover the impending fine the club were happy to have a display with flares.
hope that answers the query.

sligoman
20/02/2008, 1:07 PM
a hockey load of flares.along with normal flags,tickertape etc was used.
Rovers got fined the sum total of €100 .
since there was approx. 750 german fans at the game,and the income generated would cover the impending fine the club were happy to have a display with flares.
hope that answers the query.Problem is the fines are not consistent though. If the FAI only fined clubs 100 euro for a load of flares etc. then that wouldn't be too bad but they don't.

Lim till i die
20/02/2008, 2:31 PM
reading some of the threads on these forums is like wading through treacle.:rolleyes:

Aw, you poor pet

Did you decide to waste your own (I've no doubt precious) time??

Shame on everyone.

placid casual
20/02/2008, 2:39 PM
Aw, you poor pet

Did you decide to waste your own (I've no doubt precious) time??

Shame on everyone.

Exhibit A...:rolleyes:
nothing to do with the subject matter .

Lim till i die
20/02/2008, 2:44 PM
nothing to do with the subject matter .

The very thought of a thread on Foot.ie going off on a tangent :eek:

If this is the worst thing that happens to you all day, then you've had a good one :rolleyes:

Mr A
20/02/2008, 3:53 PM
Exhibit A...:rolleyes:
nothing to do with the subject matter .

You're the one who started talking about ending up with goo in your trousers:


reading some of the threads on these forums is like wading through treacle.

so maybe best not to be shouting too loud about staying on topic.

:)

Wangball
20/02/2008, 8:27 PM
Limerick would suit you down to the ground my man.

Dirty.

Lawless.

Smelly.

Unsafe.

No Seating Area.




And don't even get me started on the football ground............

I have a cousin goes by that name.....he's a wow at parties