Owen Garvan

[rebelmusic]

Agreed, he's still only 20. He's badly needed a good run of games. 2 so far this year, scored one and won a peno so here's hoping it continues.

[drummerboy]

Garvan turned down a move to Brighton, and was on the bench last week for Palace. Pleasantly surprised he started, hopefully a turning point.

[Carrigaline]

Garvan signing a 3 year contract with Monaghan United according to his Twitter - https://twitter.com/#!/garvalution/status/201475635212845056

[Charlie Darwin]

That was a joke...

[Carrigaline]

I thought it was a joke, would have been funny to see the reaction though :D

[Charlie Darwin]

Two goals for Garvan in the first half against Watford. They lead 2-1.

[elroy]

Hopefully a good strong season for the lad. Its not that long ago that many here were putting him forward as the next big Irish player

[theworm2345]

Hopefully a good strong season for the lad. Its not that long ago that many here were putting him forward as the next big Irish player
He has always been a consistent performer at Championship level. Could definitely be considered hard done by not to have at least a few caps considering some of the players who have.

[DeLorean]

Seemed to be doing well at the weekend before he was substituted before half time. I presume he was a victim of Palace being reduced to ten men more than anything else? He was on their set pieces and set up the second goal for a certain Damien Delaney.

[DeLorean]

Garvan's Crystal Palace moved top of the table last night with a 5-0 victory over his old club. He set up the first goal with a ball over the top and won his side's third penalty of the match, which was missed.

Crystal Palace 5-0 Ipswich Town (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20134371)

[Stuttgart88]

I heard he played very well at the weekend too.

The decision to roll his sleeves up and stay at a seemingly declining Palace rather than going to the upwardly mobile Brighton appears to be vindicated, though I was disappointed at the time.

[paul_oshea]

How many Irish now at palace? I would like to see him get a go in the premiership. He is 24 now though.

[tetsujin1979]

just Garvan, Delaney and Paddy McCarthy. McCarthy hasn't played this season because of a persistent groin problem

[Fitzy]

I'm a Palace fan and I was at the game last night. Garvan played well last night and was responsible for winning our 2nd & 3rd penalties. He is a great passer of the ball and very good at set pieces. He seems to have won over the vast majority of our fans this season, and has benefitted from Palace playing more positive football, which is a big change from the negative dross that Freedman had us playing last season.

Damien Delaney has also been an excellent loan signing from Ipswich, and is yet to lose a game in a Palace shirt. He has looked very commanding as a centre half and weighed in with a few goals as well, and Palace fans want to get him signed on a permanent deal asap. He looks a far better option at centre back than O'Dea to me, and maybe as left back now that Wilson is out for a while.

As for other Irish players, Paddy McCarthy is currently out injured and will struggle to get back into the side now that we are playing so well. McCarthy is a decent wholehearted player but he does make the occasional error. I was gutted to see Sean Scannell leave us in the summer as I thought he had the ability to be a star, and I am sure he would look much better in our current team. Hopefully he goes on to prove himself at Huddersfield.

Palace have also got a right back called Joel Ward who we signed from Portsmouth in the summer. No idea if he has Irish roots, but Ward is an Irish name and he had a great game last night. We also have a midfielder called Stuart O'Keefe who is generally used as a sub. Again no idea if he can play for us. We also have Reise Allassani in our youth team who I believe played under age for Ireland and is supposed to be a great prospect, but unfortunately he is now playing for England.

[liamoo11]

Great info thanks fitzy. underage garvan always seemed to have a lack of pace and mobility similiar to glenn whelan though he looked technically super. Has that mobility/pace improved at all?He had glandular fever which seemed to set him back for a few seasons

[elroy]

Could Garvan be the next Wesley H? Late bloomer!! (though not as late as Wes).

[theworm2345]

Could Garvan be the next Wesley H? Late bloomer!! (though not as late as Wes).
Garvan has been performing consistently at the same level for the last 6-7 years.

[elroy]

Indeed, however I was more referring to the prospect that he may make the step up to play at the top level.

[DeLorean]

Garvan has been performing consistently at the same level for the last 6-7 years.

I wouldn't claim to know every twist and turn of Garvan's career, but there seemed to be a fairly steep dip in his development. In between being a really decent prospect and now, he lost his starting place at Ipswich, defintely, and possibly Palace as well?

[drummerboy]

He needs to be playing in a team that play decent football. Would love to see him make the step up but can't be too optimistic.

[CraftyToePoke]

A player who might prosper in a continental setting more than in the industrial style football more commonly found at the level he is at, maybe?

[Stuttgart88]

Played very well again I understand.

[Carrigaline]

A goal and an assist for Garvan today.

For me, Garvan is an enigma. When he plays well, he is top notch. When he's rubbish, he truly is one of the worst players on the pitch.

If Garvan can continue his form, then I will begin to pay closer attention to him.

[tetsujin1979]

Sounds like Eyal Berkovic, one of the few players I truly hate

[Paddy Garcia]

A goal and an assist for Garvan today.

For me, Garvan is an enigma. When he plays well, he is top notch. When he's rubbish, he truly is one of the worst players on the pitch.

If Garvan can continue his form, then I will begin to pay closer attention to him.

I have no doubt that he will be delighted at this prospect.

[CraftyToePoke]

If Garvan can continue his form, then I will begin to pay closer attention to him.

I am sure in the Garvan household, they speak of little else.

[the bear]

Sounds like Eyal Berkovic, one of the few players I truly hate

You must be a big John Hartson fan then

[DeLorean]

Sounds like Eyal Berkovic, one of the few players I truly hate

Here's a little treat...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAz4Sz9gT0E&list=PL086A2067F68515FA&index= 3

[tetsujin1979]

You must be a big John Hartson fan then
one of my favourite goals ever is Hartson's goal for Celtic at Anfield in the UEFA Cup

[Junior]

one of my favourite goals ever is Hartson's goal for Celtic at Anfield in the UEFA Cup

I was behind the goal for that one mixed in with the Liverpool fans - immense - great to do them on their own patch after destroying Blackburn earlier in the competition at Ewood.

I quite fancied Berkovic as a clever little player but he just never delivered for Celtic really. Certainly wasnt a Martin O'Neill type player and when MON later brought in Big Hartson, shifted Berkovic on and to add insult to injury gave Hartson the Number 10 which Berkovic had previously warn..........

[DeLorean]

74 minutes for Palace tonight having been out for four months. They drew 0-0 away to Millwall in what was a useful point for both sides. It means that Leicester, the only team behind Palace with a better goal difference, can't catch them. Hopefully Garvan gets another game under his belt on Saturday before the playoffs, assuming they make it.

[tommy_c12000]

Anyone see how he played 2nite?? 0-0 draw at home V Brighton in the playoff semi-final

[DeLorean]

I saw a tiny bit of the first half and all of the second. Funnily enough he was nearly more involved in the few minutes of the first half I saw, receiving possession and passing it on. He seemed to pass the ball slightly behind his teammates quite a bit, possibly some rustiness. In the second half he seemed to be playing a more advanced role behind the striker. He wasn't on the ball much and messed up one really good chance of a breakaway for Palace when they had men over, holding on too long and running into trouble. He wasn't taking all of the set-pieces but the ones he did he floated them into reasonable areas rather than whipping them with any real conviction.

He was replaced with Kevin Phillips with five minutes remaining as Palace looked for a winner. To be honest I have a feeling he may have been withdrawn earlier only that Palace picked up two serious looking injuries in the second half, top scorer Murray twisting his knee and also Jonathan Williams.

He seems to have a strange running style that I hadn't noticed before, long arms going every direction. Hopefully he starts again on Monday as these games will surely have stood to him but Palace have it all to do without their main man up front.

[Crosby87]

The more I hear it, the more i come to the conclusion, "Owen Garvin": Now thats an Irish name.

[elroy]

From a point of view of Irish lads in their squad, who would we like to get promoted.

Palace have garvan, Delaney, mccarthy

Watford have Hoban, Murray, yeates and smith. Neither seeing much game time of late

Leicester have Logan and Clifford. Again neither see much action.

Brighton have dicker.

All in all not much in it, no Irish player of real significance to either. Wonder would any of the above look to pick up some of the wolves Irish if promoted

[tetsujin1979]

Lot of Watford's first team are there on loan, mainly from Udinese. If they get promoted, they'll all return to their parent club, could mean more opportunities for the Irish lads at Vicarage Road
Hoban's out injured at the moment, but he won young player of the season - http://www.watfordfc.com/news/article/130505-awards-young-player-808969.aspx - so I'd imagine he'll be back in the side next season either way.

Watford into the final after beating Leicester with almost the last kick of the game, minutes after Leicester had a penalty saved. Brighton and Palace were both terrible in their first leg last Friday, and I'd fancy the hornets to win the play off

[Stuttgart88]

Watford into the final after beating Leicester with almost the last kick of the game, minutes after Leicester had a penalty saved. Seconds more like, it was the same pasasage of play. Justice too as Leicester guy took a dive for the penalty.

Having posted on another thread (after Brentford v Doncaster) that I'd never seen a penalty miss lead to a goal at the other end in the same passageopf play before, it has now happened 3 times in 3 weeks (OK, Hull v Cardiff was maybe a minute later), each time in a crucial game, each time deep into injury time. Bizarre.

[Eminence Grise]

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:worship:

[Olé Olé]

Lot of Watford's first team are there on loan, mainly from Udinese. If they get promoted, they'll all return to their parent club, could mean more opportunities for the Irish lads at Vicarage Road
Hoban's out injured at the moment, but he won young player of the season - http://www.watfordfc.com/news/article/130505-awards-young-player-808969.aspx - so I'd imagine he'll be back in the side next season either way.

Watford into the final after beating Leicester with almost the last kick of the game, minutes after Leicester had a penalty saved. Brighton and Palace were both terrible in their first leg last Friday, and I'd fancy the hornets to win the play off

Na, a share of them will sign permanent deals. It's quite the balancing act Watford's owners have juggling their players between Granada, Watford and Udinese. Players like Vydra that are likely to make a PL impact will stay on, rather than return to Udinese as bit-part players.

Hoban's really one for the future and Zola rates him ever so highly. He could well force his way into first-team action, even in the event of promotion. As for Smith, I'm not so certain. But, Murray has really let this season pass him by. Yeates' contract is up this summer and while he's seen a decent amount of action, I can envisage him being moved on. He's not got enough for the PL, has he?

It would be great to see how Garvan fares at the highest level. It's certainly a good time to make the breakthrough at the age of 25, rather than leave it another season or longer.

[Charlie Darwin]

I think anyone but Leicester is our best shout.

[Stuttgart88]

Garvan just subbed but after a tidy enough game. I'm not going to give Owls Fan a memorable quote, but I've seen worse players play for Ireland in the last few years.

[Charlie Darwin]

Palace scored within minutes of his withdrawal! Zaha just put it to bed, 2-0. We'll now have Garvan/Delaney of Palace facing Murray/Smith/Yeates/Hoban of Watford in the final. The Watford quartet are unlikely to play a part though, except maybe Yeates from the bench.

[DeLorean]

Half time - Crystal Palace 0-0 Watford

Garvan started for Palace and possibly missed the game's best chance. Zaha set him up and he took a split second too long to get his shot away after controlling and it was well blocked. Delaney made a fantastic tackle at the other end in the game's only other 'major' incident. Yeates on the bench for Watford, only Irish interest.

[DeLorean]

Garvan withdrawn in the 84th minute as Palace make their third substitution. I can report that he has been excellent in the second half, at the heart of all Palace's good play, of which there was plenty. He played two lovely through balls that Wilbraham failed to make the most of. His set pieces caused an awful lot of problems and he had two half chances himself - the first he pulled wide under pressure, the second a really clean strike but straight at the keeper. I'd imagine he was only replaced as extra time at Wembley may have been beyond him, given his recent injury. He also seemed to aggravate something when firing his second chance on goal. It will be a travesty if Palace don't win this. Extra time to be played.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Stuart O'Keefe of Palace;any feasible Irish connection does anyone know?


Wiki doesn't help.

[CraftyToePoke]

Stuart O'Keefe of Palace;any feasible Irish connection does anyone know?

I was searching too, none mentioned but they are all saying how good he was today. Norwich/Ely born.

[SkStu]

I think this is good news that CP made it to the Premiership as Garvan finally gets a bigger stage and, as importantly, Tommie Hoban can reestablish himself in the Watford team in the Championship next year after injury. He was earning rave reviews prior to his injury.

[Olé Olé]

Garvan was excellent in the second half. He has a very unorthodox yet effective style for an attacking midfielder. His passes don't appear perfectly slid through like Kagawa or Pirlo but they always seem to be weighted excellently. There was one he played Zaha expertly in around a defender and it was almost dinked through. Someone mentioned his running style earlier in the thread which is very different too but I think it worries defenders because they aren't quite sure of his intention when his arms are waving around like that. Easy to see how Wilbraham has failed to score a league goal this season. He had some gilt-edged chances. The one when Garvan played him through exemplified this. Lovely ball.

Garvan can look forward to next season. The way Holloway had him back in the team as it's attacking fulcrum in front of Jedinak for this crucial run-in shows he has faith in Garvan. It's a pity Glenn Murray wasn't playing today or they would surely have finished the tie at the 90 minute mark.

[drummerboy]

Didn't see the game but delighted to hear that Garvan was impressive. Will be very interesting to see if he get a chance to shine in the Premership.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Garvan withdrawn in the 84th minute as Palace make their third substitution. I can report that he has been excellent in the second half, at the heart of all Palace's good play, of which there was plenty. He played two lovely through balls that Wilbraham failed to make the most of. His set pieces caused an awful lot of problems and he had two half chances himself - the first he pulled wide under pressure, the second a really clean strike but straight at the keeper. I'd imagine he was only replaced as extra time at Wembley may have been beyond him, given his recent injury. He also seemed to aggravate something when firing his second chance on goal. It will be a travesty if Palace don't win this. Extra time to be played.

Good summary, totally agree. Think it was the aggravation of the injury that led to the sub.

Absolutely delighted for him, vindicated his decision to stay at Palace, really hope he gets a decent opportunity and stays injury free next season.