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Kingdom
07/03/2008, 12:37 PM
I don't have to vouch for my commitment to the Irish cause to a complete stranger.

If you're referring to my slagging the team above, it's called satire and humour. At least geyser found it funny.



I never asked you to vouch for your commitment, nor would I ever do it to anyone here. What I'm asking is there a resentment from you towards the current players, managers? You may call it humour and satire referring to a recent post, I'm referring to the majority of your posts.

OwlsFan
07/03/2008, 1:03 PM
I never asked you to vouch for your commitment, nor would I ever do it to anyone here. What I'm asking is there a resentment from you towards the current players, managers? You may call it humour and satire referring to a recent post, I'm referring to the majority of your posts.

Hmmm, 1900 negative posts. That's some going. You'll actually find I have been supportive of every manager, including Stan until it was blatantly obvious he wasn't up to the job. I have defended players like Robbie Keane who gets stick from ignoramuses or is that ignorami? I am delighted with the appointment of Trappatoni and have said so. Doesn't mean I can't comment on something I find strange about his behaviour or are we not allowed say anything? I'd be interested to see a selection of all these negative comments.

I am a realist and having been to 95% of all home games and the majority of away games over the past 30 years I don't get carried away with the hype or the opposite negativity when that comes to the fore. I have seen it all before (except an Italian manager that is and look forward to seeing what he can do with a team). I generally have a good idea what's going to happen and who is a bull****t*r and who isn't. That said, I have NO IDEA how we're going to get on under Trapps but I do know one thing: if it starts to go bottom up, the RTE Panel will castigate him despite the glowing compliments.

OwlsFan
07/03/2008, 1:15 PM
Well the role has now been clarified:

'I had a meeting with Giovanni last week during which he clarified my role, and I am very happy with what he expects of me.

'He wants me to work with the players, which is of most interest to me, and also be on the bench and in the dressing room during games.

'He sees me as someone he can talk to along with Marco Tardelli.

'I will also be part of the scouting network, and will be going to as many games as I can to monitor the players in the squad and also track the progress of up-and-coming players.'

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In a nutshell, working with the players (not sure what exactly that is) translator in the dressing room and looking at players immediately outside the squad. Pretty much as we expected.

paul_oshea
07/03/2008, 1:18 PM
I don't have to vouch for my commitment to the Irish cause to a complete stranger.

If you're referring to my slagging the team above, it's called satire and humour. At least geyser found it funny.

As for my comments about Trappatoni not coming to Ireland, would you take a job in a country and never visit the place? I just find that strange. No big deal but I would have expected him to be over by now.

OwlsFan if he were in charge of Ireland currently, and we had games on going ( and its completely different to a club having games every week ) and trap left to go off to austria ( where he would be taking up a job in a few months ) for a reccie mission you would be complaining saying that he isn't concentrating on the job at hand. thats the impression you give me anyhow. It doesn't matter a bollicks if he comes over to do the guiness tour or not before may.....FFS get a grip.

He is being true, and more importantly a top professional.

Billsthoughts
07/03/2008, 1:24 PM
agreed. he has no reason to be here until his contract begins. wouldnt be very respectful to his current employers either.
Reading the Tribune article Neil posted....Im getting very exited about the trappatoni era..:ball:

Kingdom
07/03/2008, 1:30 PM
Hmmm, 1900 negative posts. That's some going. ... if it starts to go bottom up, the RTE Panel will castigate him despite the glowing compliments.

Ok so, I'll leave it alone and accept your version. You add to the debate around here and thats the whole concept I suppose.

OwlsFan
07/03/2008, 3:32 PM
OwlsFan if he were in charge of Ireland currently, and we had games on going ( and its completely different to a club having games every week ) and trap left to go off to austria ( where he would be taking up a job in a few months ) for a reccie mission you would be complaining saying that he isn't concentrating on the job at hand. thats the impression you give me anyhow. It doesn't matter a bollicks if he comes over to do the guiness tour or not before may.....FFS get a grip.

He is being true, and more importantly a top professional.

"FFS get a grip". Lovely talk :rolleyes:.

If he was Manager of Ireland and went for a 2 days R&R to Salzburg, it wouldn't cast me a thought. It's not a criticism. It's just something I find curious that as far as we are aware, he's never been over here. I assume Brady went to Austria to meet him. I would have thought he would have dropped over if he had time. Perhaps managers get no time off during the seasons so if they don't, then I understand.

I am not daring to attempt to criticise the current sacred cow ;)

Billsthoughts
07/03/2008, 3:33 PM
"FFS get a grip". Lovely talk :rolleyes:.

If he was Manager of Ireland and went for a 2 days R&R to Salzburg, it wouldn't cast me a thought. It's not a criticism. It's just something I find curious that as far as we are aware, he's never been over here. I assume Brady went to Austria to meet him. I would have thought he would have dropped over if he had time. Perhaps managers get no time off during the seasons so if they don't, then I understand.

I am not daring to attempt to criticise the current sacred cow ;)

Jesus you are soooo bloody negative!

geysir
07/03/2008, 3:46 PM
Trap's tribute to Brady on his 50th birthday was exceptional, full of superlatives. Looks like they think the sun shines out of those places (where flowers don't grow) in each other's anatomy.
But it will be Tardelli who will hold the all important clipboard.

OwlsFan
10/03/2008, 12:20 PM
I see Brady and Tardelli were at the Reading game. Interesting report in the Telegraph headed LONG SIGH OF RELIEF FOR COPPELL:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/03/10/sfnrea110.xml

Interesting comment:

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Long expertly opened the scoring after a surging run from Doyle under the gaze of a delegation from the new Irish international management team. Giovanni Trapattoni's assistants, Liam Brady and Marco Tardelli, also witnessed another all-action display from Stephen Hunt, who was an innocent party in the shuddering collision that caused the injury to his Irish colleague, Dunne.

"We have found the Irish players to have a really good mentality," Coppell continued. "It's almost as if they have something to prove on a week-to-week basis. That goes an awful long way in any profession."
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Razors left peg
11/03/2008, 4:33 PM
I know its goin back a couple of days but did anyone see Pat Dolans article in the Star last friday talkin bout Bradys appointment. He went on a rant saying that even as a player Brady wasnt good enough to get us to a major championship. He made light of his achievements as a coach and said that Paul Doolin would have been a better choice because he is a proven winner with men and not just with kids like Brady, but Doolin would never be considered by the FAI because he is an Eircom league manager. This is all coming from the same guy that wrote a couple of years ago that it was fantasic to see Pat Devlin get involved in the Irish set up because his achievements over the years with Bray were fantasic.Before Devlin we had Brian Kerr and while Brady was a player and not good enough to get us to a championship his manager was Eoin Hand, another League Of Ireland manager.Im not knocking the league of Ireland in anyway here, just making the point that its was a ridiculous article in which he contradicted himself and even though I always thought Dolan was a clown this went too far into stupidity. It is beyond me how he can keep getting paid for the rubish he spouts every week in the paper and on TV. Its like he see how Dunphy made a name for himself and has decided that he fancies doing the same.

Cant find the article online anywhere sorry

eirebhoy
11/03/2008, 5:21 PM
I think Dolan realises that controversy means money.

OwlsFan
12/03/2008, 9:18 AM
How's Paul Doolin's Italian? ;)

jbyrne
13/03/2008, 5:51 PM
He went on a rant saying that even as a player Brady wasnt good enough to get us to a major championship

never let the truth get in the way of a good rant. wasnt brady a major player in the team that qualified for euro '88? maybe thats not a major championship in dolans eyes

Scram
14/03/2008, 11:46 AM
never let the truth get in the way of a good rant. wasnt brady a major player in the team that qualified for euro '88? maybe thats not a major championship in dolans eyes

The guy Dolan is a complete clown...look at the rug on his head and the ridiculous waistcoats he wears, that's where it starts and it just gets worse when he opens his mouth, maybe the fat has covered his brain...and who is the other English Muppet they have with him on Setanta?..they are terrible.

OwlsFan
14/03/2008, 12:29 PM
The guy Dolan is a complete clown...look at the rug on his head and the ridiculous waistcoats he wears, that's where it starts and it just gets worse when he opens his mouth, maybe the fat has covered his brain...and who is the other English Muppet they have with him on Setanta?..they are terrible.

I hope you are not referring to the great Chris Waddle as a muppet, if it's he you are talking about as they change pundits as often as Wednesday change managers.

Dolan has seen what works for Drunkphy. Spout out the first thing that comes in to your mind and the great unwashed love it.