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Deckydee
05/02/2008, 1:05 PM
Greetings Gentlemen,
Just wanted to pose a question, if you think I am overreacting or a bit paranoid, let me know
Its only recently I had Sky installed and only recently I can watch all of the Ireland matches and of course it is only recently that I have been blessed with the Sky commentary team. It’s just that I have noticed from the commentary team that when an Irish man is on the ball they always mention the English club where he is based. For example when Dunne gets the ball they always say ‘Here is Richard Dunne the Manchester City defender’ or ‘and the ball goes to Duff and Newcastle Winger takes on the defense’ or ‘ Kilbane the Wigan midfielder falls over the ball again’ etc etc
Now indeed George Hamilton (God love him) mentions the club as well now and then, but not as much as these guys. It’s like they are giving some sort of a dig. What do you think?
Take a close look at the match against Brazil and see how many times they do it. You will be pleasantly surprised that I just may have a point.
Enjoy the U21 match against England tonight and against Brazil tomorrow if you get to see them :)
DD
Ireland4ever
05/02/2008, 1:09 PM
Yes, you are over-reacting....Sky Sports big-up there own product the Premier League, shock horror!
Wolfie
05/02/2008, 1:10 PM
Greetings Gentlemen,
Just wanted to pose a question, if you think I am overreacting or a bit paranoid, let me know
DD
You're overreacting and are indeed a bit paranoid about this. :)
Dr. Ogba
05/02/2008, 1:11 PM
Deckydee its a bit early to be on the sauce mate....what in God's name was the point of that post???
Stuttgart88
05/02/2008, 1:13 PM
Paranoid!
I find SKY very patronising in their coverage. Maybe it's my own paranoia but since Paul Dempsey left and they turfed Frank the Plank out, I've yet to hear a born & bred Irishman co-commentate on or analyse an Irish game, it's always a 2G with an English accent. This only bothers me because I find it perpetuates the feeling that we don't actually do anything ourselves.
I also think their coverage is very lazy with very little research. I think they put the bare minimum into the production.
youngirish
05/02/2008, 1:26 PM
Paranoid!
I find SKY very patronising in their coverage. Maybe it's my own paranoia but since Paul Dempsey left and they turfed Frank the Plank out, I've yet to hear a born & bred Irishman co-commentate on or analyse an Irish game, it's always a 2G with an English accent. This only bothers me because I find it perpetuates the feeling that we don't actually do anything ourselves.
I also think their coverage is very lazy with very little research. I think they put the bare minimum into the production.
Watch channel 5's coverage of an Ireland game with Steve Claridge co-commentating and all will be forgiven with SKY.
Noelys Guitar
05/02/2008, 3:04 PM
Watch channel 5's coverage of an Ireland game with Steve Claridge co-commentating and all will be forgiven with SKY.
Channel 5 with Claridge makes you feel you are watching curling or bowls. Truely the worst of all time.
geysir
05/02/2008, 3:06 PM
Worse than Niall Quinn co-commentating?
eirebhoy
05/02/2008, 3:08 PM
If Sky/BBC or any British station show a foreign team they're always going to mention the premiership players. Nothing wrong with that.
zenokelly
05/02/2008, 3:12 PM
Ah will you stop. If it was the other way around and there were a load of English players in the LOI George Hamilton would do the exact same.
If you think about it, it would normally make sense to say the club a player plays for - no problem with that.
And I hate this myth about English football people having an agenda about giving "digs" etc. at Irish players
fergalr
05/02/2008, 4:23 PM
Its not just us - watch the ACN on Eurosport. Last night it was "Newcastle's Geremi", "Nafti from Birmingham City", etc.
gustavo
05/02/2008, 4:30 PM
You'll see in on TV3's European football roundup , they'll only mention a players former club if it was a Premiership one , i.e former Newcastle player Luque or ex- Spurs man Davids
irishfan86
05/02/2008, 5:01 PM
It makes sense, it just gives the people watching something to relate to.
If you watch any Premiership matches and there's an Irish player, they'll say, "Irish international insert name on the ball."
Same deal really.
gustavo
05/02/2008, 5:07 PM
To me it feels more condescending , As if they are thinking the audience cant relate to any football unless theres a Premiership slant on it .
Deckydee
05/02/2008, 5:44 PM
ok fine, I was overeacting then :o
Just thought it was a bit strange :o
eirebhoy
05/02/2008, 6:36 PM
To me it feels more condescending , As if they are thinking the audience cant relate to any football unless theres a Premiership slant on it .
Slightly different but I remember we were playing Georgia and George Hamilton was reading out the lineups. He comes to Kaladze and says "he must be good, he plays for AC Milan". The guy had played about 40 games for Milan that season and had just lifted the Champions league a few weeks earlier. He hadn't a clue who he was other than the team he played for.
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