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Sunny Jim
23/01/2008, 7:37 PM
Mick Wallace was on the radio the other day and he said that Wexford Youths had sold more replica shirts last year than any other club, except one. Anyone know what the exact figures are for each team, or where I could get them?

GavinZac
23/01/2008, 7:46 PM
Simple maths would explain that one.

Every other club (excluding Limerick 37 who personify the proverbial spanner in the works) has been around at least 2 seasons. A certain percentage of people won't buy jersies at all - 40%? Another percentage only buy them every few years - 20%? Another percentage buy them religiously when they come out - 30%, another percentage are sad enough to buy a kit a year, regardless of it being significantly changed (e.g. sponsor changes) - a generous estimate of 10%.

Most clubs therefore will have sold jersies to:
5% (the number of every-few-years people who'd buy it, if we're putting "few" at 4)
+15% (jersies come out every 2 years so about half of the supporting population in the "religious" category would have bought them)
+10% (the saddos every year)

whilst WYs will have:
20% (the every few years people - except they've only had 1 year)
+30%(the religious people who all bought it, because they've had 1 year)
+10%(the saddos)

As Dublin City showed, the best way to shift a few jersies is to set up a new club then fold soon after.

Sam_Heggy
23/01/2008, 8:05 PM
The demand for replica shirts at Harps was huge, problem was, PFSports couldn't/wouldn't keep us supplied. We sold more polo shirts, hats, scarves, jackets and tracksuits than ever. The day before the Waterford away game (2nd leg of the play-off) PF in all their wisdom sent boxes full of Harps gear, surprizingly we managed to sell alot of it, the rest was given to charity.

Most clubs don't open the club-shop until match days, Harps open the shop every week day 9-5 (its opened by the full time office staff who are located beside the club shop) and its proven very popular. The new sponsor sent enough gear to last most of the season (or so they thought), we have run out and awaiting a new delivery again.

Footsoldier
23/01/2008, 8:06 PM
The fact that Youths are bringing out a pink jersey, apparently, should ensure that there won't be too many jerseys sold down here this year!

MariborKev
23/01/2008, 8:42 PM
We didn't have any home shirts after March 07, so we didn't sell any.

gael353
23/01/2008, 9:03 PM
The fact that Youths are bringing out a pink jersey, apparently, should ensure that there won't be too many jerseys sold down here this year!


shur isnt Wexford part of Italy? last season ye had Juventus away and Torinos home kits, so pink would be another city of Turin colour id imagine

gilberto_eire
23/01/2008, 9:53 PM
Not been smart but id be surprised if we were'nt the highest.

It's unreal the amount of kids who are going around wearing Galway United(im im talking about last seasons one now you'd do well to find ANYONE with older ones) jersies since we got promoted.
Theres no way they outsold us anyway!. Can buy our jersies in ''Lifestyle Sports'' which have 3 of the 6 sports shops in town.

Elverys have LOI jersies too...... black Rovers ones :eek:.
Cant understand that?

feo123
23/01/2008, 9:56 PM
The fact that Youths are bringing out a pink jersey, apparently, should ensure that there won't be too many jerseys sold down here this year!

if we brought out a pick one id buy 7.....a differnt one for every day.....that'd be special!!!

dcfcsteve
23/01/2008, 10:40 PM
Simple maths would explain that one.

Every other club (excluding Limerick 37 who personify the proverbial spanner in the works) has been around at least 2 seasons. A certain percentage of people won't buy jersies at all - 40%? Another percentage only buy them every few years - 20%? Another percentage buy them religiously when they come out - 30%, another percentage are sad enough to buy a kit a year, regardless of it being significantly changed (e.g. sponsor changes) - a generous estimate of 10%.

Most clubs therefore will have sold jersies to:
5% (the number of every-few-years people who'd buy it, if we're putting "few" at 4)
+15% (jersies come out every 2 years so about half of the supporting population in the "religious" category would have bought them)
+10% (the saddos every year)

whilst WYs will have:
20% (the every few years people - except they've only had 1 year)
+30%(the religious people who all bought it, because they've had 1 year)
+10%(the saddos)

I'd be surprised if Wexford Youths out-sold almost all of the league, regardless of above reasons.

Big question is - how does Wallace know what any other club sold ? Seriously ! Did he ring round every single one and demand an accurate figure ?or is he just making a huge assumption ? I suspect the latter.


As Dublin City showed, the best way to shift a few jersies is to set up a new club then fold soon after.

Dublin City lasted 5 and a half seasons and were a direct continuation of Home Farm etc, so they were neither a new club or one that folded shortly after their new colours came in. They were around for long enough for your above formula to impact them as much as any other club.

The key to Dublin City's merchandise sales was to do a deal with Carrolls, and have tourists buying their kit. Seery claimed they shifted 11,000 jersies in their final year. It was a smart deal from for DCFC overall and from a volume point-of-view (but flawed, in that they didn't get revenue per item sold).

I don't understand why a team with obvious paddy-whackery connections in their name - i.e. Shamrock Rovers or St Pats Thletic - haven't done some sort of a deal with Carrolls to get their stuff in-store. Rovers, in particular, I could see doing well out of it (though Carrolls gear does tend to be poor quality...)

deecay
23/01/2008, 10:43 PM
Thered be 7 coming my direction aswell

High 5 Feo:D

SolitudeRed
24/01/2008, 2:19 AM
Was in one of the Lifestyle sports in Belfast the other week and they were selling Blues Glens and Cliftonville tops as you'd expect, But they were also selling Dundalk tops as well!!

ciaraa
24/01/2008, 3:04 AM
Was in one of the Lifestyle sports in Belfast the other week and they were selling Blues Glens and Cliftonville tops as you'd expect, But they were also selling Dundalk tops as well!!

I always suspected that crowd were nordies. ;)

gufcfan
24/01/2008, 4:21 AM
Mick Wallace was on the radio the other day and he said that Wexford Youths had sold more replica shirts last year than any other club, except one. Anyone know what the exact figures are for each team, or where I could get them?

You can bet your ass Galway United will sell sweet fa this season. No noticeable change to the design. I bought one of the new ones for my brother's birthday and he accused me of buying the old one, as he could not tell the difference between the two. It's barely noticeable. I'm all for teams changing their strips, if it brings a few extra bob in. Some will buy it some will not.

I'd love if united went with a new design alltogether, a nice one though.

Sunny Jim
24/01/2008, 6:57 AM
Not been smart but id be surprised if we were'nt the highest.

According to Mick, the team that outsold the Youths was Cork City.

micls
24/01/2008, 8:02 AM
According to Mick, the team that outsold the Youths was Cork City.

Not surprised tbh. Regardless of where I go in the City I always see a couple of jerseys, or tracksuits etc

saint morrissey
24/01/2008, 8:03 AM
According to Mick, the team that outsold the Youths was Cork City.

i didnt think cork brought out a new jersey last year so that would be surprising. im gonna have to come out and say that not for the first time wallace may be talking b0ll0ck$.

micls
24/01/2008, 8:05 AM
i didnt think cork brought out a new jersey last year so that would be surprising. im gonna have to come out and say that not for the first time wallace may be talking b0ll0ck$.

Our current Jersey changed about 4 times :D with a red collar, without a red collar new sponsor etc.

Ours seem to have been selling readily over the 2 year period, and then we brought out the cup final jersey

Topman
24/01/2008, 8:40 AM
I reckon Sunderland sold the most shirts etc....out of all the League of Ireland Clubs

OOOPPPPSSSS they are not a League of Ireland Club!!!!

I just thought with all the hype that they would be replacing Kilkenny City:eek:

Celdrog
24/01/2008, 8:48 AM
I reckon Sunderland sold the most shirts etc....out of all the League of Ireland Clubs
OOOPPPPSSSS they are not a League of Ireland Club!!!!
I just thought with all the hype that they would be replacing Kilkenny City:eek:

Would have thought Celtic myself

Battery Rover
24/01/2008, 9:06 AM
Don't know the actual amount we sold but do know that last seasons home jersey was the best seller ever for the club.

Titan
24/01/2008, 9:30 AM
Cork sold around 4,500 last season.

Does anyone believe Wexford sold more shirts than Pats, Rovers or Bohs (c2,000)?

I didnt think so!

I have never seen a Wexford Youths shirt for sale outside Wexford.

With no webshop (that I can find) it makes this claim a bit hard to fathom

Lim till i die
24/01/2008, 9:41 AM
It's all a bit moot anyway.

No one is ever going to match the 54,321 shirts Pats shifted a couple of seasons ago :)

GenerationXI
24/01/2008, 10:14 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was Limerick who sold the most shirts. As we were masquerading as a completely new team, pretty much all of the fans went and bought the new home jersey at least. Many more will have bought the other two along the way, or at the end of the season when the newly opnened club shop had a 40% sale. We do have less fans though, so maybe what would constitute good sales for us, would be failry average by the standards of others. :o

Schumi
24/01/2008, 10:54 AM
Remember the last thread about someone claiming the best shirt sales in the league? Trouble ahead for Wexford? :eek:

jebus
24/01/2008, 11:12 AM
Remember the last thread about someone claiming the best shirt sales in the league? Trouble ahead for Wexford? :eek:

Yes but did anyone take The Kilkenny 5's boasts seriously?

Boh_So_Good
24/01/2008, 12:10 PM
Is it just me or has the whole Oirish thing of wearing a British shirt tapered off in the last few years? I seem to recall in the early 2000, every moron in this country in a Premiership jersey and every skanger and knacker in a Celtic one. Last couple of years you do not see them as much as you did.

The last time I noticed an outbreak was the last Liverpool - Man U derby before Christmas and all the drunks and dirtbags were standing outside boozers chain-smoking and belching with **** stains on their trousers. Now You would expect these losers to be like this as this is how their retarded, addictive personality type minds work, but it was nothing like previous years when the entire nation seem to be like this.

The last time someone in a Premiership jersey caught my eye in a WTF! kinda of way was some thick-eared culchie in Ballina back in October. Now considering how Pimp Quinn has marketed his 'pie and mash' operation on Tyneside overhere, coupled with just how retarded the average Oirsh soccer supporter is, you would expect to see Sunderland jersies all over the place and you don't.

By the same token you see more and more young kids with LOI jersies walking the streets all the time. I was up in Sligo a few weeks back and every second kid had a Rovers jersey.

Are we turning the corner at last and finally winning back a generation of soccer supporters in this country away from the RTE's, superpubs giant TV screens, and Pimp Quinns?

GavinZac
24/01/2008, 12:15 PM
Recent visit of City players and the FAI Cup to a school in Cork:

http://www.corkcityfc.ie/images/180108school.jpg

don ramo
24/01/2008, 12:26 PM
whats bohs so good say is true you see more and more wearing LOI jerseys, id say ramblers had record sale the last two years all the kids seem to have a ramblers jersey, maybe thing are good for the future, id say with the amount of kids wearing the jerseys if even half take up following there local side youd be doin ok.

eelmonster
24/01/2008, 12:47 PM
I always suspected that crowd were nordies. ;)

When are Bryanstown Utd. moving to their new stadium in County Meath? There's only one thing that seperates all 'nordies', as you put it, from soudies (see, doesn't that look ridiculous) and that's their (our brethren in the north's) inability to pronounce Drogheda.

How on earth did we manage to get our jerseys into Belfast? ... Must have been that Lithuanian wholesaler.

Boh_So_Good
24/01/2008, 12:50 PM
Jaysus, that's a great photo GavinZac!

Hard to believe that's an Irish school. We need more of the same from all clubs.

Louth4sam
24/01/2008, 12:55 PM
By the same token you see more and more young kids with LOI jersies walking the streets all the time. I was up in Sligo a few weeks back and every second kid had a Rovers jersey.

Are we turning the corner at last and finally winning back a generation of soccer supporters in this country away from the RTE's, superpubs giant TV screens, and Pimp Quinns?

I'm not too sure, i think a lot of it is down to the quality merchandising thats available from clubs these days. Our jersey last year was our nicest in years and therefore sold lots.
There was lots of people buying Dundalk jerseys last year who wouldn't even know how to get to Oriel park. I know it mightn't be the same for the Dublin clubs but id say a lot of young people are buying them as a sign of identity much as they way a county GAA jersey would have been bought in the past. Another factor may be the way they can now be purchased with a lot of clubs having an online shop and national sportshops like lifestyles and elvery's stocking LOI jerseys a lot more than they used to.

Boh_So_Good
24/01/2008, 12:59 PM
whats bohs so good say is true you see more and more wearing LOI jerseys, id say ramblers had record sale the last two years all the kids seem to have a ramblers jersey, maybe thing are good for the future, id say with the amount of kids wearing the jerseys if even half take up following there local side youd be doin ok.

So it's happening all over the country. This is great news.

Only 5 years ago the Dream Team replica shirt was the top selling jersey in the country and 11,000 moron paid into Tolka to see them play when they normally "play" in front of UK stadiums for free at half-time and they have to completely re-dub the sounds to hide the boos and insults. Not only did the "soccer mad Orish" pay for this, but cheered the goals and asked for autographs. One of the actors was being interviewed by RTE and seem bewildered when real sport questions were put to him. "Did Shelbourne test your defence enough?"

I think that episode was the absolute low-point in Irish soccer history. We should of been the laughing stock of the world, yet RTE covered it like it was a real match.

amjl
24/01/2008, 1:09 PM
Elverys have LOI jersies too...... black Rovers ones :eek:.
Cant understand that?

Couldn'y get a Kilkenny jersey for love nor money for the last 2 season since Umbro were doing our kits. If they had been available we might have got an extra bob of 2.

Still Elvery's have Shelbourne jersys on sale before they went bang & last season it was the Sham Rovers black jersey!

McShels
24/01/2008, 1:25 PM
I have been saying for years that there should be a dedicated LOI shop in Dublin City centre which would sell all merchandise from ALL League clubs, an online shop should also be set up and this should all be run inconjunction with the clubs and FAI to ensure the clubs get a decent portion of any profit made. Also if possible the jersies should be sold marginally cheaper than the Premiership/La Liga/Serie A jersies you see on sale in Lifestyle, Champion sports etc. Furthermore all ROI gear should be sold from here as should tickets from international games and the FAI cup final.

I know that Cork have a shop in cork city centre and in galway there is a sports shop called Connaught Sports (think thats its name) which sells merchandise for galway utd, galway gaa and connaught rugby which is a very good idea IMO.

McShels
24/01/2008, 1:28 PM
Only 5 years ago the Dream Team replica shirt was the top selling jersey in the country and 11,000 moron paid into Tolka to see them play when they normally "play" in front of UK stadiums for free at half-time and they have to completely re-dub the sounds to hide the boos and insults. Not only did the "soccer mad Orish" pay for this, but cheered the goals and asked for autographs. One of the actors was being interviewed by RTE and seem bewildered when real sport questions were put to him. "Did Shelbourne test your defence enough?"

I think that episode was the absolute low-point in Irish soccer history. We should of been the laughing stock of the world, yet RTE covered it like it was a real match.

Couldnt agree more BSG I remember being asked several times to get tickets for this "match" but told the person asking me to go to a LOI game instead of that muck. If memory serves it even made the sports pages of the Star!!!!!

ndrog
24/01/2008, 1:42 PM
When are Bryanstown Utd. moving to their new stadium in County Meath? There's only one thing that seperates all 'nordies', as you put it, from soudies (see, doesn't that look ridiculous) and that's their (our brethren in the north's) inability to pronounce Drogheda.

How on earth did we manage to get our jerseys into Belfast? ... Must have been that Lithuanian wholesaler.

Not sure when Drogheda utd are moving into our new stadium in Drogheda co meath .The sooner the better tbh .As for your inability to pronounce Drogheda ? It matches your inability to get out of the First Division .You like apples ?

eelmonster
24/01/2008, 1:48 PM
Drogheda co meath .

What part of Drogheda borough, in otherwords Drogheda town, ie. Drogheda is in Meath? Time for a name change.

ndrog
24/01/2008, 1:54 PM
What part of Drogheda borough, in otherwords Drogheda town, ie. Drogheda is in Meath? Time for a name change.

Not gonna drag this off topic any more than it is already , but you need to do your homework if you want to wind people up . Parts of Drogheda town and Borough are situated just over the county border into meath .Therefore your adress can be Drogheda co Louth or Drogheda Co Meath were the new stadium will hopefully be built .That clear enough for ya now or what ?

eelmonster
24/01/2008, 1:57 PM
Not gonna drag this off topic any more than it is already , but you need to do your homework if you want to wind people up . Parts of Drogheda town and Borough are situated just over the county border into meath .Therefore your adress can be Drogheda co Louth or Drogheda Co Meath were the new stadium will hopefully be built .That clear enough for ya now or what ?

Currently, not one part of Drogheda Borough is in Meath, though parts of the town which were in Meath were ceded to Louth over a hundred years ago - I think you need to do a bit of homework, Meathman.

ndrog
24/01/2008, 2:16 PM
Do a quick google there for Drogheda Co Meath and see what you get .And make your mind up will ya, if no part of Drogheda is in Meath ! How am i A meath man ? :confused:

Block G Raptor
24/01/2008, 2:18 PM
By the same token you see more and more young kids with LOI jersies walking the streets all the time. I was up in Sligo a few weeks back and every second kid had a Rovers jersey.

Are we turning the corner at last and finally winning back a generation of soccer supporters in this country away from the RTE's,

I'd agree with that BSG although rather strangely I've noticed a lot of Derry City shirts and track tops around Dublin lately

eelmonster
24/01/2008, 2:29 PM
And make your mind up will ya, if no part of Drogheda is in Meath ! How am i A meath man ? :confused:

Sorry, I should have prefixed that with 'soon-to-be ...'

ndrog
24/01/2008, 2:32 PM
And you just proved yourself wrong you idiot :D C you in Boriel for your usual beating !

eelmonster
24/01/2008, 2:41 PM
And you just proved yourself wrong you idiot :D C you in Boriel for your usual beating !

Are you sure you know how to get there? I'm not trying to make out you are a retard, but do you know what county it's in?

Sunny Jim
24/01/2008, 4:29 PM
Ahem! Back on topic, I take it that no official figures of shirt sales for each club are made available then?

thischarmingman
24/01/2008, 5:43 PM
I'd agree with that BSG although rather strangely I've noticed a lot of Derry City shirts and track tops around Dublin lately
Funny you should say that, I've seen two in the last week. One walked past me outside HMV one evening last week taking me totally by surprise. He probably wondered why I was looking at him so strangely as he walked away.

Dodge
24/01/2008, 6:05 PM
It's all a bit moot anyway.

No one is ever going to match the 54,321 shirts Pats shifted a couple of seasons ago :)

Sure we sell that many to Polish lads alone now...

Raheny Red
24/01/2008, 6:19 PM
Was in one of the Lifestyle sports in Belfast the other week and they were selling Blues Glens and Cliftonville tops as you'd expect, But they were also selling Dundalk tops as well!!

Three different types of bog roll to choose from in Lifestyle :eek: - that's good going :D

oldyouth
24/01/2008, 7:07 PM
Was at the Youths Supporters Club meeting last night and signed up for the Family Membership this year. Came back and told the wife that our 3rd strip is definitely pink this year, no going back at this stage! She said brill, I'll have one of those for the next game. Jaysus, what's happening here:mad:

dcfcsteve
25/01/2008, 1:09 AM
Ahem! Back on topic, I take it that no official figures of shirt sales for each club are made available then?

Ask your Manager/owner/Chief Executive/main funder. He seems to think he knows the figures.