Setanta Draw

[Raheny Red]

I don't want to be overly critical of Glentoran it's just that I was suprised by the poor quality of light at the Setanta Cup fixture in the Oval last year.

I don't really think that it matters who owns the floodlights

I've no idea about aviation but would the poor light of these floodlights have anything to do with the very low flying planes:confused:

[Steve Bruce]

I think they have improved their floodlights since last year. But not totally certain.

Portadown is far worse though.

[Mr_Parker]

Are you sticking up for the Glens or their floodlights? :confused: Did you install them maybe? Either way, aww bless its wile sweet.

:rolleyes:


Care to answer my question? :rolleyes:

[pól-dcfc]

Care to answer my question? :rolleyes:

Who cares? Our whole stadium is owned by the council. But not for much longer.

Seriously gone get off your wee anti-derry buzz. Typical Belfast...

[Jerry The Saint]

Three years in a row of us the Glens and Derry City is enough for me to say that Setanta will be losing my support, and a lot of other people's support also. It is supposed to be a draw ffs..

So do you want it to be a draw or do you want it not to be a draw to keep Linfield, Glentoran and Derry separate:confused:

Linfield have always been seeded, Derry and Glens have always not been seeded and there's only two groups. It's unusual but it's not unbelievable to have 3 teams drawn together three years in a row.

EDIT: Now getting Cyprus for three qualification groups in a row - there's definitley something fishy about that :mad: :)

[Lux Interior]

[quote=Raheny Red;856210] Glentoran's home crowd is an embarrassment.



Not as much as of an embarassment as their floodlights. Never thought I'd pay into a ground and have to squint to watch a football match.

Hmmmmn, the parent club won't receive funding for upgrade due to the ongoing situation surrounding our ground move.

Just as well you play in the mini San Siro then, isn't it?

:rolleyes:

[Lux Interior]

So do you want it to be a draw or do you want it not to be a draw to keep Linfield, Glentoran and Derry separate:confused:

Linfield have always been seeded, Derry and Glens have always not been seeded and there's only two groups. It's unusual but it's not unbelievable to have 3 teams drawn together three years in a row.

EDIT: Now getting Cyprus for three qualification groups in a row - there's definitley something fishy about that :mad: :)

Unless you check the odds.

Just a thought; do you think the local Cork police might be a bit concerned about hundreds of ****ed up working class Protestant northerners arriving in their city, with many staying over?

[ifk101]

Just a thought; do you think the local Cork police might be a bit concerned about hundreds of ****ed up working class Protestant northerners arriving in their city, with many staying over?

:D:D:D

[Graemerz]

Not sure if anyone would be interested but here is the views from Gary Hamilton. Winners of 2005, Semi Finalists in 2006 and runners-up in 2007. Lucky eh?

We're outsiders in cup: Hamilton

Setanta Sports Cup

Friday, January 18, 2008

By Stuart McKinley

Gary Hamilton has ruled out the possibility of an Irish League club winning the Setanta Sports Cup.

And in a move that will no doubt wind-up Linfield fans, the Glentoran striker claimed that the Windsor Park men got lucky when they won the inaugural competition in 2005.

The Blues have since fallen slightly short of claiming the title of all-Ireland champions again, reaching the semi-final in 2006 before they were runners-up to Drogheda United last season.

According to Hamilton though, that's as close as anyone will get to bringing the trophy north of the border while the current situation persists.

"I think it is an impossible task for an Irish League team to win it," said Hamilton.

"I know Linfield won it one year, but I think if you watched that match they got away lucky that year. Shelbourne deserved to win the game, they dominated and Linfield created two chances and scored two goals.

Linfield and Glentoran will meet yet again in the group stages of this season's competition after yesterday's draw in Dublin.

Derry City and St Patrick's Athletic were also placed in Group Two, while Cliftonville will make their debut in the competition away to holders Drogheda United on opening night, February 26 after coming out in Group One alongside Dungannon Swifts and Cork City.

A week later Linfield host Derry City while the Glens go to Dublin to take on St Pat's.

Each team will play each other once in the Spring before the competition resumes in September. The final is on October 18.

[Krstic]

Hamilton doesn't give a reason for feeling that IL clubs won't win it this year.

[kingdomkerry]

Probably didnt want to say they are not as good as LOI clubs

[Lux Interior]

Not sure if anyone would be interested but here is the views from Gary Hamilton. Winners of 2005, Semi Finalists in 2006 and runners-up in 2007. Lucky eh?

We're outsiders in cup: Hamilton





Hmmmmn, he said Linfield were lucky in one match, not over 3 seasons.

A convenient oversight on your behalf, I'll bet, in your dick-splitting rush to post this.

:rolleyes:

[Not Brazil]

Probably didnt want to say they are not as good as LOI clubs

I think you'll find that Linfield FC's record in the competition to date makes a mockery of your, rather glib, statement.:cool:

[kingdomkerry]

I think you'll find that Linfield FC's record in the competition to date makes a mockery of your, rather glib, statement.:cool:

I think its a widely held opinion that linfield can compete with the LOI clubs but the rest are a considerable way behind. Im sure a future all ireland league will further prove this.

[Not Brazil]

I think its a widely held opinion that linfield can compete with the LOI clubs but the rest are a considerable way behind. Im sure a future all ireland league will further prove this.


Why would you support an All Ireland league then?:confused:

[Graemerz]

Hmmmmn, he said Linfield were lucky in one match, not over 3 seasons.

A convenient oversight on your behalf, I'll bet, in your dick-splitting rush to post this.

:rolleyes:

Strange one. If its just a match Hammy was referring then the Setanta Final 2005 against Shelbourne we dominated and won comfortably 2-0. Blind or just jealous as ever?

The only match we got lucky in was a 1-0 victory against Cork City last year in the semi final. Cork controlled the game yet couldn't find the net. Gary Hamilton didn't mention this in his little embarrassment of an interview. Maybe he should concentrate on his own clubs dismal embarrassing downright sh*te performances before he decides to have a pop at Linfield, eh? ;)

Tell me was your beloved Hammy p*ssed in the Westbourne again when he give this silly statement, was he still celebrating his greatest achievement in his career, a 1-0 win agianst Linfield on Boxing Day to consolidate third position in the league? :eek: Ambition doesn't get higher than THAT btw!

Forever in our Shadow. Fortune Favours the Brave.

[kingdomkerry]

Why would you support an All Ireland league then?:confused:


Why would'nt I? It can only improve the game here.

[Graemerz]

Why would'nt I? It can only improve the game here.


I agree. It will improve both sides of the border, the sooner the better in my eyes.

[Not Brazil]

Why would'nt I? It can only improve the game here.


How come?

You said that IL clubs, with the exception of Linfield, would get found out in an AIL.

How would that add anything to the game in the Republic Of Ireland?:confused:

[Flexy]

Not Brazil - Would you rather play at crap grounds with no atmosphere in Armagh, Limavady, and Insuitute every other week or play in Derry, Sligo, Galway, Cork and Dublin, were the atmosphere would be alot better. Do you not think it would be better for the teams in both leagues and also the supporters. Yes it will mean more travel and expenses but worth it in the long run

[kingdomkerry]

Hmmmm

[kingdomkerry]

;)


How come?

You said that IL clubs, with the exception of Linfield, would get found out in an AIL.

How would that add anything to the game in the Republic Of Ireland?:confused:

Im sure in an AIL linfield, glentoran and cliftonville would be among the strongest in time.

Saying that though, Bohs, Shamrock Rovers, Galway and Cork would be the strongest IMO.

Go on sign up and prove me wrong. I double dare you!!

[Flexy]

You think Galway and Rovers are bigger clubs than Derry and Pats Lol

[kingdomkerry]

You think Galway and Rovers are bigger clubs than Derry and Pats Lol

I should of said Derry too. Yes Rovers are bigger that Pats. No doubt even down in kerry we know that!

[Dodge]

I should of said Derry too. Yes Rovers are bigger that Pats. No doubt even down in kerry we know that!


Biggest or strongest, and even then Galway?

[kingdomkerry]

One club for a big city and county. Progressing very nicely. They could be huge

[Dodge]

One club for a big city and county. Progressing very nicely. They could be huge

There's 3 LOI clubs in Galway now...

[Graemerz]

kingdomkerry is full of sh*t if it was an All Ireland League it would be between Drogs, Derry, St Pats, Bohs, Cork and Linfield as championship contenders. Shamrock Rovers, Galways etc are a bit away of this.

[Pablo Escobar]

kingdomkerry is full of sh*t if it was an All Ireland League it would be between Drogs, Derry, St Pats, Bohs, Cork and Linfield as championship contenders. Shamrock Rovers, Galways etc are a bit away of this.

I wouldn't agree on the Rovers thing. All they need is the move to Tallaght IMO. Galway will be up there with the best in 5 years time (also only my opinion though).

[Not Brazil]

Not Brazil - Would you rather play at crap grounds with no atmosphere in Armagh, Limavady, and Insuitute every other week or play in Derry, Sligo, Galway, Cork and Dublin, were the atmosphere would be alot better. Do you not think it would be better for the teams in both leagues and also the supporters. Yes it will mean more travel and expenses but worth it in the long run

Sorry - I should explain.

I support the idea of an AIL "Premier" League.

Having discussed it at length with a wide variety of fans, the only thing that concerns me is that I don't see Sligo, Galway, Cork etc bringing big travelling support.

I'm not sure whether an AI "Premier" League would increase crowds.

[kingdomkerry]

If there is big investment it WILL incresase crowds. No doubt

[kingdomkerry]

kingdomkerry is full of sh*t if it was an All Ireland League it would be between Drogs, Derry, St Pats, Bohs, Cork and Linfield as championship contenders. Shamrock Rovers, Galways etc are a bit away of this.

:D:D:D Idiot

[Not Brazil]

If there is big investment it WILL incresase crowds. No doubt

How, exactly?:confused:

[micls]

How, exactly?:confused:

Better facilities +better players=better crowds

[Not Brazil]

Better facilities +better players=better crowds

I think that is somewhat over simplistic, to be honest.

[micls]

I think that is somewhat over simplistic, to be honest.

Really?

What do you think would attract better crowds?

What attracts the better crowds to the premiership(obviously on a much bigger scale)?

Better facilities will go a long way to attracting fans, families in particular.

Better players will lead to better football and eventually better results in Europe and the group stages.

City sold out the Red Star game the year before last in 5 hours.

The potential is huge, but the majority are bandwagonners. They want good exciting football and good standard of facilities.

More money also leads to better marketing again a key component in getting fans.

[Mr_Parker]

Really?

What do you think would attract better crowds?

What attracts the better crowds to the premiership(obviously on a much bigger scale)?



I'm no stato, but have crowds not been falling away in recent seasons in the English premiership?

[micls]

I'm no stato, but have crowds not been falling away in recent seasons in the English premiership?

Saturation point. Too many people from abroad coming in(daytrippers) locals getting ****ed off etc. Not feeling part of the club anymore.

Were a long long long way off that, and will never reach it.

However on a much smaller scale the thing that made the premiership so big(money and Sky) can do the same for us on a smaller scale.

[Joey Killester]

Also, traditional fans being driven away over there with security restrictions on standing and the likes.

[Mr_Parker]

Saturation point. Too many people from abroad coming in(daytrippers) locals getting ****ed off etc. Not feeling part of the club anymore.

Were a long long long way off that, and will never reach it.

However on a much smaller scale the thing that made the premiership so big(money and Sky) can do the same for us on a smaller scale.

IMO to many clubs are only looking at this as a short term debt clearing exercise without fully committing to a long term strategy.


Also, traditional fans being driven away over there with security restrictions on standing and the likes.

Wait until you travel North then! H&S have to be seen to be believed up here. ;)

[Not Brazil]

Be interesting to see a detailed business plan.

All we've had so far is talk.

[Joey Killester]

Wait until you travel North then! H&S have to be seen to be believed up here. ;)

I have been to matches up north with Shels in the Setanta. Whats H&S? :confused: :)

[Saint MacDara]

Health and Safety i assume