Defunct Leinster Senior Cup

[historynut]

Aware above Cup now ceased - wether as result of the introduction of summer season, unsure.
Collect data on Leagues and Cups in Ireland - have a full list of final details to 1994/95, unsure exactly when last Leinster Cup was played.
Can anyone state when last held and details of finals from 1994/95 to that date.
Believe Shamrock won 96/97, Bohs 97/98 & St Pats 99/2000.
Appreciate any help.

[pineapple stu]

Last LSC was 2000/01. It was dropped for the short transition season to summer soccer and never came back. Think Rovers won the last won. We won it in 80/81, 94/95 and 95/96.

[historynut]

Cheers Pineapple stu.
Aware you beat Dundalk 2-1 in 94/95 final. Do you know 95/96 details ?
Seperate issue is it you delving into Collingwood Cup history ?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Who has won the most LSC?


Seperate issue is it you delving into Collingwood Cup history ?
see here- http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=683399&postcount=6

[The Lilywhites]

Dundalk have been in 18 finals of the Leinster Senior Cup, winning it six times and finishing as runners-up on twelve occasions. Last appearance in the final was 94/95 and the last time they won the cup was 77/78.

[Aberdonian Stu]

I think Bohs have the most wins but can't be sure.

[pineapple stu]

Cheers Pineapple stu.
Aware you beat Dundalk 2-1 in 94/95 final. Do you know 95/96 details ?
Seperate issue is it you delving into Collingwood Cup history ?
Think we beat Athlone on penalties in 95/96 after a 0-0 draw. Before my time though.

Nope, not looking into the Collingwood. Not sure who that is.

Edit - actually, CM 01/02 had a full honours list. Don't have that version any more, but someone here might and can read off the honours roll (winners and runners-up).

[Réiteoir]

I think Bohs have the most wins but can't be sure.

Leinster Cup Winners: 31 times, 1894-1998 (a record)

[LeixlipRed]

Shels have won it 18 times. Last in 93/94. All before my time though

[Sheridan]

It was a sly bit of chicanery on Bohs' part which contributed to the LSC's demise. They used a scheduled Leinster Senior Cup game in 2001 to avoid playing an inconveniently re-arranged league match and wipe out suspensions to key players. It was the debate as to whether LSC matches constituted "competitive" games which led to its being declared more trouble than it was worth and discontinued.

I think it ought to be revived; it's one of the most historic tournaments in the country and its format rendered it relatively unobtrusive. There was always a good mix of teams from all levels of the game and the latter rounds could be quite competitive. At least it actually counted for something (a provincial championship), unlike the League Cup.

[pineapple stu]

The LSC counted for nothing. Leinster champions didn't mean anything to anyone. Crowds were a fraction of League Cup games and could often not cover costs. We don't need another Cup competition. It's dead; let it stay that way.

[historynut]

Just a wee thanks for info posted. As stated previously have full list to 94/95, possibly 95/96 if can be confirmed UCD beat Athlone that year.
Therefore just the last 5 finals to be confirmed.

[Dodge]

The LSC counted for nothing. Leinster champions didn't mean anything to anyone. Crowds were a fraction of League Cup games and could often not cover costs. We don't need another Cup competition. It's dead; let it stay that way.

15 years or so ago it was the equal of the League Cup, and as it was the first trophy I saw Pats win I'll always have a soft spot for it. I had thought we won the last one in 2000

We won our 6 Cups in 1947/1948 (as non league team), 1982/1983, 1986/1987, 1989/1990, 1990/1991 and 1999/2000

[alabama rover]

Rovers won it in the following years:

Leinster Senior Cup
1923, 1927, 1929, 1930, 1933, 1938, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1964, 1969, 1982, 1985, 1997.

[Comic Book Guy]

I don't know if it's entirely a good idea to have let it die, I know that the Munster variety is still going strong and the rounds where the EL clubs enter can double up as useful run outs pre-season, mind you my own team's record in it against non league teams the last few years is embarrassing:o
I'm surprised that the Leinster variety was stopped, they should have kept it going even if it was just LSL teams playing each other.

[pineapple stu]

Does anyone care about the MSC actually? Does anyone go to games?


I had thought we won the last one in 2000
Wayside knocked us out in 2000/01 anyway.

[Dodge]

Actually it might've been the 2000/2001 competition we won...

[Poor Student]

Edit - actually, CM 01/02 had a full honours list. Don't have that version any more, but someone here might and can read off the honours roll (winners and runners-up).

The tournament kept appearing for several versions after that in spite of its being defunt.

With many Leinster clubs being required to having 'A' Championship sides and the addition of Sporting Fingal it could probably make a viable tournament with a mixture of reserves and Intermediate/Junior teams.

[shelbourne1904]

I have my Grandfathers medal winners with Shels in 1904

[Battery Rover]

Leinster Cup Winners: 31 times, 1894-1998 (a record)

In 1896 they beat Athlone Town 3-1. It was Athlone's first ever senior final.

[Cabs88]

Might be an idea to bring it back in some form, possibly a competitive pre-season competition, similar to the defunct super cup

[seand60]

Turned into a bit of a joke at the end.
Even had Monaghan United from Ulster playing in it!

[LukeO]

I would love to see it make a return in some shape of form, perhaps as a competition for Leinster sides in the First Division down... that way all the Leinster Premier League sides would be represented by their A league sides.

[ghBohs]

The original Leinster Senior Cup is currently on display in the Dublin Writers Museum, Parnell Street, Dublin 1 as part of their exhibition to mark the 50th anniversary of the death of Oliver St John Gogarty. Gogarty won the LSC with Bohs in 1896.

I had it in my gaff for 2 days before I could get it dropped in. :o

[dcfcsteve]

The original Leinster Senior Cup is currently on display in the Dublin Writers Museum, Parnell Street, Dublin 1 as part of their exhibition to mark the 50th anniversary of the death of Oliver St John Gogarty. Gogarty won the LSC with Bohs in 1896.

I had it in my gaff for 2 days before I could get it dropped in. :o

Where does it live normally ghBohs ?

Anyone know what happened to the final LSC trophy ? Did the last winners get to keep it ?

[ghBohs]

You can normally find it looking pretty lonely in the Bohs trophy room nestled between a half a can of Mr Sheen and one of those Millenium milk bottles the corpo handed out in '88.

The FAI gave it to Bohs when the tournament was scrapped because they'd won it more often than anyone else.

<edit> As far as I'm aware it was the only version of the trophy ever used.

http://i1.tinypic.com/6x8kcqs.jpg

[dcfcsteve]

The FAI gave it to Bohs when the tournament was scrapped because they'd won it more often than anyone else.



Surely it was a Leinster FA decision, not an FAI one....?

[GavinZac]

Does anyone care about the MSC actually? Does anyone go to games?You might get 300 or so bored souls at Turner's Cross for a City game. The smaller crowds would be an eerie experience, watching a half strength team from a virtually empty Shed, with echos instead of roars. Sitting on the steps with a box of chips from the ever present Good Stuff van, wondering what we'd do if they ever built up the Cross with seats. We concluded they'd build around the Shed :(

[GavinZac]

What was the Dublin Cup? A Cork team won it once :D

[seand]

What was the Dublin Cup? A Cork team won it once :D

The Dublin City Cup or 'City Cup' was a bit of a misnomer. It was a competition all league clubs participated in. Usually played as a knockout cup competition, a few times it was played as a one-series league (during the 40a when there were only 8 or 10 teams in the league.) It had the interesting distinction of using corner count as a tie-breaker. I think the final was decided on corner count more than once! It ran from (about) the mid-30s to the early 70s.

In fact, here are some details......
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/ierdublincityhist.html

[drummerboy]

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[pól-dcfc]

It had the interesting distinction of using corner count as a tie-breaker.

Fantastic. Hope Delaney is reading.