John Giles

[kriscommons]

First off, I do not think he'll get it but two things have struck me lately re Giles:

1) He is getting backed for the job. Both PP and particularly Betfair shows that Giles is getting backed by someone...and it is consistent support, not just some looney with a wad.

2) He appears to have become much more cagey when discussing the appointyment process etc on Newstalk. Is this because he himself wants to be (or already is) part of that very process?

I'm telling you, do not be surprised if he emerges out of nowhere on this one. There is €300 or more looking to back him on Betfair at prices I would consider way too short, so someone fancies his chances...

[Bunny Kelly]

I believe the technical term is 'RAMP' for this one

[Hibernian]

First off, I do not think he'll get it but two things have struck me lately re Giles:

1) He is getting backed for the job. Both PP and particularly Betfair shows that Giles is getting backed by someone...and it is consistent support, not just some looney with a wad.

2) He appears to have become much more cagey when discussing the appointyment process etc on Newstalk. Is this because he himself wants to be (or already is) part of that very process?

I'm telling you, do not be surprised if he emerges out of nowhere on this one. There is €300 or more looking to back him on Betfair at prices I would consider way too short, so someone fancies his chances...

Cant for the life of me see him getting the job and if he does then we are only going to go backwards.

I would hope we go for someone outside Ireland and UK and someone who can get us to play to our ability which I believe is to qualify for major competitions (not to win them but we good enough to get there with players we have)

[CollegeTillIDie]

The FAI won't go outside Ireland and UK because they won't stump up the cash for an interpreter at the interview process :D
P.S. That's why Dalglish won't get the gig either :D

[hoopy]

Our fuhrer will only go for someone who is or has been involved with the premiership to pander to our premiership nation.

[Greenforever]

Cant for the life of me see him getting the job and if he does then we are only going to go backwards.

I would hope we go for someone outside Ireland and UK and someone who can get us to play to our ability which I believe is to qualify for major competitions (not to win them but we good enough to get there with players we have)

While not an ideal choice, theres not many out there that would be more committed. He has plenty of experience and while he stayed away from management since his days at Rovers he's probably a better choice than El Tel and most others bandied about. He certainly would take no crap from the likes of Stephen Ireland and Anthony Stokes and you may see a return of the passion we used to have.

[as_i_say]

eh he's like 85 years old. come on!

[Sligo Hornet]

Absolutely NO chance of this happening!......let's not forget Delaney is champion of "The Self-Preservation Society"......this would be suicide for him, and whatever he is he's NOT that stupid!

[Greenforever]

eh he's like 85 years old. come on!


Terence Frederick "Terry" Venables (born 6 January 1943 in Dagenham, London

John Giles. Date of birth, November 6, 1940 (1940-11-06) (age 67). Place of birth, Dublin, Ireland ...


Not much of a difference, not that im promoting JG but JG would be a better choice then El Tel.

[Bluebeard]

Terence Frederick "Terry" Venables (born 6 January 1943 in Dagenham, London

John Giles. Date of birth, November 6, 1940 (1940-11-06) (age 67). Place of birth, Dublin, Ireland ...


Not much of a difference, not that im promoting JG but JG would be a better choice then El Tel.

Peter Andre is a better option than El Tel, but I don't see anyone opening a thread on Peter Andre for Ireland manager...

[DotTV]

El Tel has a better tan though

[Greenforever]

Peter Andre is a better option than El Tel, but I don't see anyone opening a thread on Peter Andre for Ireland manager...

Stan bad and all as he was is probably a better option than El Tel:D:D

[cavan_fan]

Stan bad and all as he was is probably a better option than El Tel:D:D

Oh for christ sake, can we all stop bandwagon jumping. Venables is an average choice for manager. He has experience of succesdful management of an international team. Staunton had no experience, Giles has managed no-one for over 20 years and even then had little success.

[Greenforever]

Oh for christ sake, can we all stop bandwagon jumping. Venables is an average choice for manager. He has experience of succesdful management of an international team. Staunton had no experience, Giles has managed no-one for over 20 years and even then had little success.

AVERAGE choice being the word, are we not meant to set our sight higher than average, noone is recommending Stan or Giles just pointing out how poor a choice el tel would be and if you consider failing to get past the semis in your own country a success, i wouldnt.........

[NeilMcD]

Yeah I think the anti Venables has a got bit over the top, I dont want Venables anywhere near the Irish job, but he does have a record in the game, Staunton has none and Venables has worked at a higher level than Giles too. Criticism is better when it is actually fact based rather than just over the top rants.

[Greenforever]

Yeah I think the anti Venables has a got bit over the top, I dont want Venables anywhere near the Irish job, but he does have a record in the game, Staunton has none and he has worked at a higher level than Giles too. Criticism is better when it is actually fact based rather than just over the top rants.

Staunton has worked at a higher level than Giles?

Both managed Ireland, Staunton assisant at Walsall, Giles managed West Brom and Rovers :confused:

[NeilMcD]

Staunton has worked at a higher level than Giles?

Both managed Ireland, Staunton assisant at Walsall, Giles managed West Brom and Rovers :confused:

I meant Venables has worked at a higher level than Giles, sorry about the confusion there.

[Greenforever]

I meant Venables has worked at a higher level than Giles, sorry about the confusion there.

No probs, anyway I remember standing on the south terrace for Giles last game at Lansdowne when he got terrible abuse from a small section off the crowd, ticket cost me all of 50p, those were the days...no block booking required and had my own section on the terrace all to myself:D

[Bluebeard]

The fact is that it seems absolutely certain that we are getting someone who's day was about 12 years ago. I think that it is telling that so much time is going in on the part of most of us in the hunt for a better alternative - anyone who reads what is going on here would swiftly guess the meaning of it all. However, is it likely that the management of Football In Ireland PLC are reading this, or any other of the major supporter fora?

I don't agree with the idea of a People's Choice manager, as you inevitably get the chicken flavour, but I do think that the FAI have a major PR job needing doing. They need someone who has a great deal of expertise, combined with someone who will appease the fans. The most successful manager in Asian club football, whoever he or she might be, may indeed be the best otion, and the best available option too, but they cannot plumb for that, as the chants will go up from the lucrative Three-Day-Eventers of "Who-are-ya". Similarly, someone like a certain Mr. Keane would be for a substantial number of supporters a very popular choice, but what has he actually done yet - many supporters on both sides of Saipan-gate would object to his lack of credentials?

In this situation, the only thing that the FAI can do is to wait for as long as possible to get the right man (or woman) for the job. Otherwise the recriminations will be about the fact that they jumped too soon, and if wthey had to wait we would have had Benitez / Beckenbauer / Beckham / Boney M / Bluebeard - delete as applicable. Of course, dates are getting tight for the world cup fixtures, and that wil not help.

Personally, I am starting to think that we should wait until Hodgson gets the inevitable sack that comes as part of the Fulham package these day, but that could be months away.


Criticism is better when it is actually fact based rather than just over the top rants.

You are absolutely no fun:mad::D

[Wolfie]

In this situation, the only thing that the FAI can do is to wait for as long as possible to get the right man (or woman) for the job. Otherwise the recriminations will be about the fact that they jumped too soon, and if wthey had to wait we would have had Benitez / Beckenbauer / Beckham / Boney M / Bluebeard - delete as applicable. Of course, dates are getting tight for the world cup fixtures, and that wil not help.


I can confirm that Bluebeards Betfair odds have plummetted to 3-1 following his confirmation that he MOST DEFINITELY WANTS THE JOB.

[Sligo Hornet]

I can confirm that Bluebeards Betfair odds have plummetted to 3-1 following his confirmation that he MOST DEFINITELY WANTS THE JOB.

He'll be getting Cocky!.......although that's only alleged!:D

[Bluebeard]

I can confirm that Bluebeards Betfair odds have plummetted to 3-1 following his confirmation that he MOST DEFINITELY WANTS THE JOB.

All I am willing to say is that John Giles and I recently had a conversation on football related matters. Obviously, while I am not currently employed as a football manager, it may be seen as a conflict of interest with what appears to be my full time job as pundit on Foot.ie.


I'll expect the "Bluebeard for Ireland" thread to be started by someone else, as it seemed tacky when Dave O'Leary did the same a few months ago.


He'll be getting Cocky!.......although that's only alleged!:D

Oooh, chance would be a fine thing...

Allegedly, of course.

[Noelys Guitar]

Giles is now 6/1 for the job after being asked on newstalk last night was he interested in the job and was there any truth to the Giles/Brady story. Giles did not deny the story. Instead he said he did not know where the journo got the story.

[rambler14]

One of the lads got a tip on Giles the other day from someone who works in the FAI.

[OwlsFan]

There's an old Irish saying that goes "Duirt bean liom, go duirt bean lei..." .

Giles back after 25 years out of the game and his only experience during that time is repeating himself on a panel with Coco the CLown and a Laughing Hyena...give me a break.

[tetsujin1979]

Giles is now 6/1 for the job after being asked on newstalk last night was he interested in the job and was there any truth to the Giles/Brady story. Giles did not deny the story. Instead he said he did not know where the journo got the story.
Giles' interview from thursday night is available for download from the NewsTalk podcast list: http://83.138.170.50/podcasts/audio/1001giles.mp3

[Billsthoughts]

Giles' interview from thursday night is available for download from the NewsTalk podcast list: http://83.138.170.50/podcasts/audio/1001giles.mp3

totally dismissive of the idea if that pod cast is anything to go by.

[geysir]

How many times and in how many different ways can he say no, - no truth, don´t know where they got that story from, I told them (the sunday newspaper) no.

So some people think that's a yes and have kept in a close enough 3rd fav.

[tetsujin1979]

That's what I took from it, he's no interest in being manager whatsoever

[rambler14]

Seems that once again betting has been suspended on the Irish Manager. When I checked yesterday afternoon Giles was 15/1. Then when I checked this morning his odds had tumbled to 3/1.
I have nothing against Giles becoming manager because lets face it all we want issomeone who can get us back on track and if Gilesy can do it then let him do it.

[eirebhoy]

Seems that once again betting has been suspended on the Irish Manager.
They close the book every night when Paddy Power staff head home.

[geysir]

Eirebhoy, were you on time to throw another tenner on Giles? :)

[eirebhoy]

Yeah. :D It's free money for the bookies and I can't believe people fall for it. He's one person the bookies can bank on not getting the job.

[frankbrett]

Yeah. :D It's free money for the bookies and I can't believe people fall for it. He's one person the bookies can bank on not getting the job.

I was tempted last night to put my entire betfair balance on laying Giles for the job.

If I had any confidence the process would be done and dusted in the next couple of weeks I would have done so.

[Jerry The Saint]

He hasn't gone away you know...:(


Apart from openly criticising some of the candidates on the radio is there any indication that he would even want the job? More importantly, can anyone think of any way the FAI could spin this appointment as a good thing? And justify paying him anything close to the wages that the FAI are willing to spend?

Maybe Delaney's been listening to Staunton and overestimating the importance of the RTE panel. Giles would have a free run off RTE but everyone else would view it as a crazy decision, surely? The only thing I could think of is that Giles has been approached for a Bobby Robson-type consultant role and Chinese whispers are leading people to put money on him...:confused:

[Kingdom]

He hasn't gone away you know...:(


Apart from openly criticising some of the candidates on the radio is there any indication that he would even want the job? More importantly, can anyone think of any way the FAI could spin this appointment as a good thing? And justify paying him anything close to the wages that the FAI are willing to spend?

Maybe Delaney's been listening to Staunton and overestimating the importance of the RTE panel. Giles would have a free run off RTE but everyone else would view it as a crazy decision, surely? The only thing I could think of is that Giles has been approached for a Bobby Robson-type consultant role and Chinese whispers are leading people to put money on him...:confused:

if Johnny Giles is appointed manager I will be looking for Delaney to resign along with Givens. If that doesn't happen I'll not go to another Ireland game.

[Noelys Guitar]

He hasn't gone away you know...:(


Apart from openly criticising some of the candidates on the radio is there any indication that he would even want the job? More importantly, can anyone think of any way the FAI could spin this appointment as a good thing? And justify paying him anything close to the wages that the FAI are willing to spend?

Maybe Delaney's been listening to Staunton and overestimating the importance of the RTE panel. Giles would have a free run off RTE but everyone else would view it as a crazy decision, surely? The only thing I could think of is that Giles has been approached for a Bobby Robson-type consultant role and Chinese whispers are leading people to put money on him...:confused:

Delaney has bought a time machine on Ebay?

[Jerry The Saint]

Delaney has bought a time machine on Ebay?

Don't know about that but if Gilesy gets the job we'll all be going back to the 1970s.

[Noelys Guitar]

Don't know about that but if Gilesy gets the job we'll all be going back to the 1970s.

I'm going to dig out my paper mache hat with Up Ireland. Tickets to go on sale in Elvery's. And nobody to be allowed in if they are not wearing Doc Martens and white butchers coats.

[Kingdom]

I'm going to dig out my paper mache hat with Up Ireland. Tickets to go on sale in Elvery's. And nobody to be allowed in if they are not wearing Doc Martens and white butchers coats.

I've no problem with Giles the person per se, Giles the manager is another story, but I would predict dire consequences for all involved with the board or the process if he gets it.

[geysir]

I'm going to dig out my paper mache hat with Up Ireland. Tickets to go on sale in Elvery's. And nobody to be allowed in if they are not wearing Doc Martens and white butchers coats.
Cash at the stiles then, dress code - original WW1 trench coats.

[rambler14]

I feel that all we need is someone who can get us back on track and if Giles is the man who can then why not give him the job.

[OwlsFan]

I feel that all we need is someone who can get us back on track and if Giles is the man who can then why not give him the job.


Because he couldn't do it when he was 40 and only recently out of the game and with a stronger side. What chance now when he must be well in to his 60s and hasn't managed anything for years and at his age will be doing well to manage his bladder ;)?.

0.00000000000001% of it happening.

[the 12 th man]

Back (current odds) 121.7% Lay 91.2%

Gerard Houllier

2.1

Terry Venables

5.6

John Giles

5.7

Liam Brady
16

Kenny Dalglish
32

Sam Allardyce
36
Mick McCarthy
65

Glenn Hoddle

10.5



Current odds on betfair-the latest move is for Glen Hoddle:eek:

[ShamrockIreland]

Back (current odds) 121.7% Lay 91.2%

Gerard Houllier

2.1

Terry Venables

5.6

John Giles

5.7

Liam Brady
16

Kenny Dalglish
32

Sam Allardyce
36
Mick McCarthy
65

Glenn Hoddle

10.5



Current odds on betfair-the latest move is for Glen Hoddle:eek:

Giles is past managing and owlsfan is right his time was there and now its gone. Liam Brady will not touch the job so he can be chalked off aswell. I'd say El-Tel will get it now

[Hibernian]

I feel that all we need is someone who can get us back on track and if Giles is the man who can then why not give him the job.

Are you off your head? Giles manager ??????

[zenokelly]

Giles is past managing and owlsfan is right his time was there and now its gone. Liam Brady will not touch the job so he can be chalked off aswell. I'd say El-Tel will get it now


Brady has widely said that he has an interest in the job - between him and el tel imo.

[DeLorean]

Didn't quite see it fully but the the Johnny Giles documentary on RTÉ last night looked really excellent. Some great footage. - https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2017/0703/887487-giles-review/

On the RTÉ player here - https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/giles-30004748/10746571/

[OwlsFan]

Enjoyed the Leeds stuff and it was interesting seeing the Leeds manager, Don Revie, getting down and dirty and giving the players massages. Couldn't quite see Mourinho doing that now. Leeds were not a major club until Revie took over and the League Cup in 1968 was the first major trophy the club won - indeed the first major trophy by a Yorkshire side since 1935 (modesty prevents me from naming that other Yorkshire side). Giles was one of the all time great Irish players and I had the pleasure in watching him live at Dalymount and on English TV. I haven't seen a better passer of a ball off both feet. Lacked a bit of pace (and height of course) which was his only failing as a player.